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Re: Let's talk 2nd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 15, at 11:19:36 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Can anyone speak to the experience in Menashi's chambers/to his hiring process? How grade-selective is he? I have heard he is nice to his clerks, but I would be cautious about clerking in his chambers unless you are committed to the MAGA movement. I think a clerkship with SJM would be a net negative for a lot of positions, including relatively politically neutral things like AUSA positions. I hat...
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Re: Let's talk 2nd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 15, at 10:56:00 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Can anyone speak to the experience in Menashi's chambers/to his hiring process? How grade-selective is he? I have heard he is nice to his clerks, but I would be cautious about clerking in his chambers unless you are committed to the MAGA movement. I think a clerkship with SJM would be a net negative for a lot of positions, including relatively politically neutral things like AUSA positions. I hat...
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Re: Let's talk 2nd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 15, at 10:43:33 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Can anyone speak to the experience in Menashi's chambers/to his hiring process? How grade-selective is he? I have heard he is nice to his clerks, but I would be cautious about clerking in his chambers unless you are committed to the MAGA movement. I think a clerkship with SJM would be a net negative for a lot of positions, including relatively politically neutral things like AUSA positions. I see...
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Re: Let's talk 2nd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 15, at 8:00:33 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
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Can anyone speak to the experience in Menashi's chambers/to his hiring process? How grade-selective is he?
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I have heard he is nice to his clerks, but I would be cautious about clerking in his chambers unless you are committed to the MAGA movement. I think a clerkship with SJM would be a net negative for a lot of positions, including relatively politically neutral things like AUSA positions.
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Re: AUSA/USAO hiring  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 15, at 5:51:39 am   in: Public Interest & Government
My understanding is that every office requires a waiver. The background check could take a year or more, but the initial review for a waiver could take a matter of months or even weeks. Did they give you a reason for the denial? Or do you have a sense of what it might be? For what it’s worth, every office (as far as I’m aware) requires AUSAs to be top secret eligible, even if few actually have TS...
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Re: NYC Trial Boutiques  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 15, at 5:37:31 am   in: Legal Employment
Former associate at one of these firms - here are my impressions: Some firms I'm looking at: Hecker Fink (seems like amazing for crim work but unclear how many trials they do per year, or if its mostly investigations. Their civil rights appeals work seems top notch though and the Do Kwon trial will be big).\ Very well respected white collar lawyers, and generally perceived as the better managed/be...
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Re: AUSA/USAO hiring  
  by: Publius78   on: June 15, at 4:20:11 am   in: Public Interest & Government
My understanding is that every office requires a waiver. The background check could take a year or more, but the initial review for a waiver could take a matter of months or even weeks. Did they give you a reason for the denial? Or do you have a sense of what it might be? For what it’s worth, every office (as far as I’m aware) requires AUSAs to be top secret eligible, even if few actually have TS ...
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Re: AUSA/USAO hiring  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 15, at 3:54:11 am   in: Public Interest & Government
Offer withdrawn due to inability to secure a waiver of full-field background investigation prior to starting. Huge bummer. I am confident I would have been adjudicated favorably upon completion of the full investigation. I don't want to give up on this career. However, I don't know how significant a hurdle this requirement for a waiver is. The AUSA office I was given an offer at required a top sec...
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Re: Wachtell (NYC) vs Munger (LA) vs Covington (DC) vs WilmerHale (DC)  
  by: The Lsat Airbender   on: June 14, at 8:09:37 pm   in: Legal Employment
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Probably Munger but deciding city agnostic is bananas. LA (sprawl, traffic, entertainment), DC (suburban, government) and NY (super dense, super expensive, finance) are very different places to live—assuming you actually have this choice, figure out which you like, and fast.
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This. Absolutely ludicrous to be indifferent among NYC, DC and LA.
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Re: Leaving Clerkship Early?  
  by: Crazysnackaroo   on: June 14, at 6:48:23 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
I think a couple weeks is unlikely to burn bridges. You can just tell your judge you've got some family stuff to attend to before you wrap up everything and start your job and you'd appreciate a couple weeks extra to take care of it. Should be okay. Just don't try for like 2 months early. I'd say it's fine to try earlier then a few weeks, but I think given you'll be in the same city I wouldn't try...
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Leaving Clerkship Early?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 13, at 12:36:14 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
I have two months left of a two-year district court clerkship and I am so, so miserable. My judge has been really cruel to me and I'm having mental breakdowns and crying just about daily. I have a job lined up in the same city in the fall, and on one hand am worried about burning bridges, but also am truly at the end of my rope. My judge has had at least eight clerks quit their terms early, so I d...
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Re: When is it appropriate to move on?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 12, at 6:47:59 pm   in: Legal Employment
Also, do any attorneys in the office do more interesting work? Like is there the potential to do more complex work at some future point, or is this super simple stuff all there is? If the former, I agree you don’t want to hang around forever waiting for the opportunity to do it, but can you reach out to those attorneys and ask them for advice about getting into more interesting work? Or are there ...
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Re: 2025 Clerkship Hiring Movement  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 12, at 2:32:56 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
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Do some judges NOT move this week? Like do some judges just collect applications and start reviewing next week/ in the future? Anyone know
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Yep, there are plenty of judges who don't want to be bothered with the rushed nature of Plan hiring and will hire off-cycle. My judge hired on-Plan this year for 2027-28 but sat out the plan last year and filled 2026-27 entirely off-cycle.
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Re: Let's Talk 4th Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 12, at 2:23:44 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Any EDVA judges to avoid?
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Re: Let's talk 2nd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 12, at 1:42:04 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Can anyone speak to the experience in Menashi's chambers/to his hiring process? How grade-selective is he? Menashi’s clerks like him—he’s a bit interpersonally awkward but I haven’t heard anything bad about the experience. He has a reputation for being a bit difficult for other judges to work with but nothing terrible, and his work product is consistently good. It is comfortably the most MAGA cha...
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Re: Let's talk 6th Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 12, at 10:44:57 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
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Judges in EDTN generally nice and good bosses. Very very conservative except McDonough
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Any thoughts on the Trump judges?
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=205435

Re: Let's talk 2nd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 12, at 8:25:58 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Can anyone speak to the experience in Menashi's chambers/to his hiring process? How grade-selective is he?
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Re: Clerks Taking Questions  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 12, at 7:28:05 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
I'm interviewing on plan (rising 3L). I got an offer from a district and an offer from a circuit judge yesterday for the following year, very excited! My question is... how do I go about the rest of my summer at my firm? I don't know if I'll come back after my two years clerking, especially because my firm is across the country from my clerkships. How do I approach this? Thank you! also sorry dou...
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Re: Clerks Taking Questions  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 12, at 6:47:34 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
I'm interviewing on plan (rising 3L). I got an offer from a district and an offer from a circuit judge yesterday for the following year, very excited! My question is... how do I go about the rest of my summer at my firm? I don't know if I'll come back after my two years clerking, especially because my firm is across the country from my clerkships. How do I approach this? Thank you! also sorry dou...
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Re: Let's talk 6th Circuit!  
  by:   on: June 12, at 6:42:46 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
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[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562850 time=1749008215 user_id=45852]
Heard of someone with a Bloomekatz interview this week from HYS
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I got an interview too! I didn’t tell anyone so I’m probably not the above student either
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update: did not end up interviewing because I got a different offer earlier!
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Re: Clerks Taking Questions  
  by:   on: June 12, at 6:41:14 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
I'm interviewing on plan (rising 3L). I got an offer from a district and an offer from a circuit judge yesterday for the following year, very excited! My question is... how do I go about the rest of my summer at my firm? I don't know if I'll come back after my two years clerking, especially because my firm is across the country from my clerkships. How do I approach this? Thank you!
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Re: D. Conn. Judges?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 12, at 5:20:46 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Does anyone know anything about Judge Williams in Hartford?
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Re: Let's talk 6th Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 12, at 1:34:06 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Judges in EDTN generally nice and good bosses. Very very conservative except McDonough
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Re: Let's talk 6th Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 11, at 11:21:19 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
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Has anyone heard from Ritz?
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Ritz is interviewing A LOT of people.
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Re: Let's talk 6th Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 11, at 11:08:03 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Any thoughts on the judges of EDTN? Seems like it is very conservative. Any red flags in terms of bosses?
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Re: Clerks Taking Questions  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 11, at 11:03:56 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
I posted this as a separate thread, but perhaps this is a better thread to post. I am at a T14, with 3.5 GPA. I have a district court clerkship already lined up, after 1 year in BL. I want to do a COA, is it even worth trying? I am Fedsoc and was on the board. Secondary journal but also did HJLPP (guest editor, obviously not at Harvard lol). I am willing to pretty much be anywhere. I went to a st...
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Re: Clerks Taking Questions  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 11, at 11:03:34 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
I posted this as a separate thread, but perhaps this is a better thread to post. I am at a T14, with 3.5 GPA. I have a district court clerkship already lined up, after 1 year in BL. I want to do a COA, is it even worth trying? I am Fedsoc and was on the board. Secondary journal but also did HJLPP (guest editor, obviously not at Harvard lol). I am willing to pretty much be anywhere. I went to a st...
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Re: 2025 Clerkship Hiring Movement  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 11, at 10:10:44 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Judge Reyes has filled through 2027-2028.
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Re: Let's talk 11th Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 11, at 9:54:51 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Does anyone have any info about Calvert in NDGA?
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Re: 2025 Clerkship Hiring Movement  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 11, at 9:01:45 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Do some judges NOT move this week? Like do some judges just collect applications and start reviewing next week/ in the future? Anyone know
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Re: Let's Talk 4th Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 11, at 8:52:51 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Does anyone know if Wynn has moved? I got an email on the 9th that chambers was checking apps, but nothing since. Anyone else?
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Re: Clerks Taking Questions  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 11, at 8:00:51 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
I posted this as a separate thread, but perhaps this is a better thread to post. I am at a T14, with 3.5 GPA. I have a district court clerkship already lined up, after 1 year in BL. I want to do a COA, is it even worth trying? I am Fedsoc and was on the board. Secondary journal but also did HJLPP (guest editor, obviously not at Harvard lol). I am willing to pretty much be anywhere. I went to a st...
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Re: Let's talk 6th Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 11, at 7:42:12 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Ritz has invited at least two people from HLS to interview.
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Re: 2025 Clerkship Hiring Movement  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 11, at 5:24:51 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Judge Moore (6th Cir.) has made at least one offer for 2028-2029.
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Re: Let's Talk 3rd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 11, at 4:34:10 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Anyone have insight on Bibas' hiring process? How selective is he in terms of grades and school? Seems like he hires from a relatively wide range of schools within the T14, which gives me some hope. Thanks! Right now, Bibas and Sutton are probably the two circuit judges that can and do send the majority of their clerks to SCOTUS. They hire accordingly. If by “relatively wide range of schools” you...
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Re: Let's Talk 3rd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 11, at 3:31:39 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Anyone have insight on Bibas' hiring process? How selective is he in terms of grades and school? Seems like he hires from a relatively wide range of schools within the T14, which gives me some hope. Thanks! Right now, Bibas and Sutton are probably the two circuit judges that can and do send the majority of their clerks to SCOTUS. They hire accordingly. If by “relatively wide range of schools” you...
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Re: Let's talk 6th Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 10, at 9:41:12 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Has anyone heard from Ritz?
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Just found a GroupMe for Touro Law’s incoming class (2028).  
  by:   on: June 10, at 7:27:00 pm   in: Forum for Law School Students
Just found a GroupMe for Touro Law’s incoming class (2028).



[url]https://groupme.com/join_group/108138166/ec4RN2Hb[/url]
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Re: Wachtell (NYC) vs Munger (LA) vs Covington (DC) vs WilmerHale (DC)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 10, at 6:58:01 pm   in: Legal Employment
Probably Munger but deciding city agnostic is bananas. LA (sprawl, traffic, entertainment), DC (suburban, government) and NY (super dense, super expensive, finance) are very different places to live—assuming you actually have this choice, figure out which you like, and fast.
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Re: Chances for SDNY/DDC?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 10, at 6:51:27 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Worth a shot but not enough information to know. Work experience, recs, personal background, career plans, connections all matter. Not competitive for the most selective judges but agree that it’s a big court.
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Re: Let's Talk 4th Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 10, at 6:35:39 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Are these judges as prestigious to clerk for as the judges of Alexandria?


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Thoughts/reputations/competitiveness of EDVA Norfolk Judges?
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thoughts on the Richmond judges also? Particularly Novak/Young?
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I’ve heard Novak places a lot of weight/emphasis on law school and strongly prefers to higher people from T14s over top students at regionals
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Re: 2025 Clerkship Hiring Movement  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 10, at 4:46:40 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
has anyone heard of movement in EDNY or Mass?
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Re: 2025 Clerkship Hiring Movement  
  by: ck1249   on: June 10, at 3:06:30 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Any updates on movement in CA9 or any of the California districts?
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Re: Let's Talk 3rd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 10, at 12:32:13 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
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[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562856 time=1749067998 user_id=45852]
Anyone know which EDPA and 3d Circuit judges are interviewing/have hired people for 2026 so far? And which judges are full for that term?
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Roth is full through the 2026–2027 term.
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Krause is full for 2026-27 and 2027-28
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Re: 2025 Clerkship Hiring Movement  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 10, at 12:29:38 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
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To anyone's knowledge, who has moved so far?
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Judge Bowel has moved.
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Re: 2025 Clerkship Hiring Movement  
  by: Rawlsian3   on: June 10, at 11:38:57 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
[quote=clerk26abc post_id=10562909 time=1749564317 user_id=283108]
have also heard of interviews today before 12pm, which is odd. I guess judges are starting to go the OCI-route!
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I was offered an interview at 9am ET today from a judge in a small city, so some are definitely hustling to secure clerks.
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Re: 2025 Clerkship Hiring Movement  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 10, at 10:52:38 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Most of the pretty sd/ed NY judges have interviewed. Subramanian and Komitee are done
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Re: 2025 Clerkship Hiring Movement  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 10, at 10:28:09 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
There have been a flurry of offers in DDC. I've heard about a few of the newer judges giving out a few offers. TBD over the next 24 hrs.
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Re: Let's Talk 3rd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 10, at 9:16:59 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562856 time=1749067998 user_id=45852]
Anyone know which EDPA and 3d Circuit judges are interviewing/have hired people for 2026 so far? And which judges are full for that term?
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Roth is full through the 2026–2027 term.
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Re: 2025 Clerkship Hiring Movement  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 10, at 8:32:49 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562918 time=1749579780 user_id=45852]
To anyone's knowledge, who has moved so far?
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Or perhaps, who has NOT moved so far? :mrgreen:
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Re: 2025 Clerkship Hiring Movement  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 10, at 8:29:41 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562918 time=1749579780 user_id=45852]
To anyone's knowledge, who has moved so far?
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I would expect the more selective COA and feeder-level judges like Boasberg to have already moved and have interviews/offers be completely done within the next 24-48 hours.
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Re: 2025 Clerkship Hiring Movement  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 10, at 8:23:00 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
To anyone's knowledge, who has moved so far?
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Re: 2025 Clerkship Hiring Movement  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 10, at 8:16:22 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Interview invite with Judge Karen Nelson Moore (6th Cir.)
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Re: Penn Law Honors  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 10, at 7:55:04 am   in: Legal Employment
3.75. no cum
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Re: 2025 Clerkship Hiring Movement  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 10, at 7:40:08 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Which judges have moved so far in SDNY
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Re: cd cal judges to avoid  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 10, at 7:34:41 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
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I got my information from a (1) former clerk and (2) judge on cd cal. But okay! Lol
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I myself am a former clerk. I want to reiterate—this is false. She has never been without clerks. Enough with the rumor mill. It’s really gotten out of hand.
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Re: Wachtell (NYC) vs Munger (LA) vs Covington (DC) vs WilmerHale (DC)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 10, at 7:20:25 am   in: Legal Employment
I think the way you laid out the differences between the firms is about right, you seem to basically have a sense of what you're choosing between. You're also talking about three different cities here, which do you actually want to live in? You don't seem to have any passion or overriding interest in going to the feds or DOJ (I assume you would have mentioned it if so). That would really be the re...
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Re: Berkeley Clerkship/Coif Discussion  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 10, at 6:54:26 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
3.1 for 2L got me to top 25%. any hope for district court clerkships in CA like a couple years after grad or am i well and truly fucked Is this based on an HH = 5 or 4 scale? 3.1 is 25%? That doesn't sound right unless there was a lot of grade inflation. Regardless, plenty of people get district court clerkships in CA without being in coif. CD and ED are much less competitive than ND. You will be...
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Re: Let's Talk 9th Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 10, at 6:19:56 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562854 time=1749064867 user_id=45852]
Any pre-plan movement from CA9 COA judges?
[/quote]
Looks like Koh and McKeown are already filled per Oscar.
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Re: 2025 Clerkship Hiring Movement  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 10, at 5:56:33 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Just got NDIL Interview offer.
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Re: 2025 Clerkship Hiring Movement  
  by:   on: June 10, at 4:05:17 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
have also heard of interviews today before 12pm, which is odd. I guess judges are starting to go the OCI-route!
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Re: Clerks Taking Questions  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 10, at 3:34:44 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
I posted this as a separate thread, but perhaps this is a better thread to post. I am at a T14, with 3.5 GPA. I have a district court clerkship already lined up, after 1 year in BL. I want to do a COA, is it even worth trying? I am Fedsoc and was on the board. Secondary journal but also did HJLPP (guest editor, obviously not at Harvard lol). I am willing to pretty much be anywhere. I went to a st...
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Re: Skadden vs. KE (Chicago)  
  by: Barry grandpapy   on: June 10, at 3:32:34 am   in: Legal Employment
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562866 time=1749196261 user_id=45852]
Interested in corporate and corprate subgroups
[/quote]

They're peers.



Go to Skadden, stay in touch with a couple buds going to KE, lateral to KE in the 3rd year for a sign-on bonus and also split the referral bonus with your bud.



/thread
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Re: 2025 Clerkship Hiring Movement  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 9, at 6:07:39 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Have heard of multiple judges interviewing and hiring today already. Guess no one really cares about the plan as much anymore. My impression of the early movers has been that they tend to be the feeder judges who “follow” the plan insofar as they wait to extend offers until this week, but they interview/offer on Monday with the tippy top candidates. So it’s the most competitive judges interviewin...
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Re: Berkeley Clerkship/Coif Discussion  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 9, at 6:00:48 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
3.1 for 2L got me to top 25%. any hope for district court clerkships in CA like a couple years after grad or am i well and truly fucked 3.1 is 25%? That doesn't sound right unless there was a lot of grade inflation. Regardless, plenty of people get district court clerkships in CA without being in coif. CD and ED are much less competitive than ND. You will be fine as long as you are close and have...
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Re: Clerks Taking Questions  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 9, at 4:29:55 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
I posted this as a separate thread, but perhaps this is a better thread to post. I am at a T14, with 3.5 GPA. I have a district court clerkship already lined up, after 1 year in BL. I want to do a COA, is it even worth trying? I am Fedsoc and was on the board. Secondary journal but also did HJLPP (guest editor, obviously not at Harvard lol). I am willing to pretty much be anywhere. I went to a sta...
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Re: T14 3.5 GPA with District Court Clerkship  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 9, at 4:17:59 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Know plenty of very average conservative law students who land COA clerkships. You’ve got a great shot - just literally a matter of where you want to clerk. Where should I be looking? I am from CA, but went to school where the 8th Circuit is and have ties near there. I am willing to go just about anywhere. Also, How broadly should I apply? Obviously not like feeders, but should I be targeting onl...
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Re: 2025 Clerkship Hiring Movement  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 9, at 2:29:03 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Wait until tomorrow. Weird that there are so many reaching out today, but that doesn't necessarily mean everyone (or even a majority) is doing so.
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Re: 2025 Clerkship Hiring Movement  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 9, at 2:10:18 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
No word yet, am I cooked?
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Re: 2025 Clerkship Hiring Movement  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 9, at 12:42:19 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Which judges? Not helpful to be super vague.
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Re: Chances for SDNY/DDC?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 9, at 12:33:02 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
SDNY is a big court and despite what many posters will have you believe, cum laude at HLS is a good position for many of the "random" (although no SDNY judge is really random) senior judges.
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Re: 2025 Clerkship Hiring Movement  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 9, at 12:31:30 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Have heard of multiple judges interviewing and hiring today already. Guess no one really cares about the plan as much anymore.
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Re: Berkeley Clerkship/Coif Discussion  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 9, at 11:19:06 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
3.1 for 2L got me to top 25%. any hope for district court clerkships in CA like a couple years after grad or am i well and truly fucked You just need some luck, persistence, and being strategic. Plenty of Berkeley Law applicants have landed dct clerkships without academic honors (as in they were below top 25-33%). You’ll see from the database that even people with mostly Ps have been able to secu...
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Re: T14 3.5 GPA with District Court Clerkship  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 8, at 7:18:19 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Know plenty of very average conservative law students who land COA clerkships. You’ve got a great shot - just literally a matter of where you want to clerk.
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2025 Clerkship Hiring Movement  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 8, at 6:27:08 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
It's that time of year. Good luck, everyone!
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Re: Let’s Talk DC Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 8, at 4:53:34 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
How much hope should I have as a 2L applying for DDC with top 10% grades, LR, and moot court from a non-HYS T14? It's a bit of a myth that the DDC judges are extreme grade snobs. Sure, some like Boasberg, won't look twice at someone without a 5.0 GPA, but most are not like that at all. Connections to the judges, and for the new Biden appointees, diversity and PI interest, are more important. Any ...
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Re: Let’s Talk DC Circuit!  
  by: Wild Card   on: June 8, at 12:20:09 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562889 time=1749401168 user_id=45852]
All judges of color and their work product is being judged by some law student (or clerk) who I very much doubt is reading every memo order/opinion coming out these judges’ chambers. Sounds about white…
[/quote]



Cool it with the racism. Anyone who keeps up with the news understands that this judge is not sound of mind.
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T14 3.5 GPA with District Court Clerkship  
  by: Transfermeout   on: June 8, at 9:39:16 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
I have a district court clerkship already lined up, after 1 year in BL. I want to do a COA, is it even worth trying? I am Fedsoc and was on the board. Secondary journal but also did HJLPP (guest editor, obviously not at Harvard lol).
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Re: Let’s Talk DC Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 8, at 8:44:47 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
How much hope should I have as a 2L applying for DDC with top 10% grades, LR, and moot court from a non-HYS T14? It's a bit of a myth that the DDC judges are extreme grade snobs. Sure, some like Boasberg, won't look twice at someone without a 5.0 GPA, but most are not like that at all. Connections to the judges, and for the new Biden appointees, diversity and PI interest, are more important. Any ...
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Cahill NY thoughts and advice?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 8, at 8:28:36 am   in: Legal Employment
Dear TLS, I'm posting anonymously because I think this might personally identify me when linked with other info on my account. I'm lucky to have an offer from Cahill (which was one of my top choices), and am interested in working in the HY/Levfin space (and cap markets & finance more broadly). I feel like I'm at a pretty pivotal point in my life where I am choosing which direction my career will g...
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Re: Let’s Talk DC Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 8, at 6:46:08 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
How much hope should I have as a 2L applying for DDC with top 10% grades, LR, and moot court from a non-HYS T14? It's a bit of a myth that the DDC judges are extreme grade snobs. Sure, some like Boasberg, won't look twice at someone without a 5.0 GPA, but most are not like that at all. Connections to the judges, and for the new Biden appointees, diversity and PI interest, are more important. Any ...
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Re: Let’s Talk DC Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 8, at 6:27:51 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
How much hope should I have as a 2L applying for DDC with top 10% grades, LR, and moot court from a non-HYS T14? It's a bit of a myth that the DDC judges are extreme grade snobs. Sure, some like Boasberg, won't look twice at someone without a 5.0 GPA, but most are not like that at all. Connections to the judges, and for the new Biden appointees, diversity and PI interest, are more important. Any ...
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Re: Berkeley Clerkship/Coif Discussion  
  by: slsadiq   on: June 8, at 5:32:02 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
3.1 for 2L got me to top 25%. any hope for district court clerkships in CA like a couple years after grad or am i well and truly fucked
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Re: Let's Talk 3rd Circuit!  
  by:   on: June 8, at 5:01:01 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562219 time=1741101684 user_id=45852]
I just heard that Freeman interviewed and hired a 3L.
[/quote]

Do you know if she opens apps on OSCAR?
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Re: Let's talk 6th Circuit!  
  by:   on: June 8, at 4:47:35 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562850 time=1749008215 user_id=45852]
Heard of someone with a Bloomekatz interview this week from HYS
[/quote]

I got an interview too! I didn’t tell anyone so I’m probably not the above student either
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Re: Let’s Talk DC Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 8, at 2:56:03 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
How much hope should I have as a 2L applying for DDC with top 10% grades, LR, and moot court from a non-HYS T14? It's a bit of a myth that the DDC judges are extreme grade snobs. Sure, some like Boasberg, won't look twice at someone without a 5.0 GPA, but most are not like that at all. Connections to the judges, and for the new Biden appointees, diversity and PI interest, are more important. Any ...
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Re: Let’s Talk DC Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 7, at 10:27:02 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
How much hope should I have as a 2L applying for DDC with top 10% grades, LR, and moot court from a non-HYS T14? It's a bit of a myth that the DDC judges are extreme grade snobs. Sure, some like Boasberg, won't look twice at someone without a 5.0 GPA, but most are not like that at all. Connections to the judges, and for the new Biden appointees, diversity and PI interest, are more important. Any ...
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Re: Let’s Talk DC Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 7, at 6:46:41 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
How much hope should I have as a 2L applying for DDC with top 10% grades, LR, and moot court from a non-HYS T14? It's a bit of a myth that the DDC judges are extreme grade snobs. Sure, some like Boasberg, won't look twice at someone without a 5.0 GPA, but most are not like that at all. Connections to the judges, and for the new Biden appointees, diversity and PI interest, are more important. Any ...
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Chances for SDNY/DDC?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 7, at 4:50:59 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Graduated from HLS 2 years ago, 3.8 GPA (cum laude) good position on important secondary journal
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Re: Tanicius's Guide for Bullshitting Essay Topics  
  by:   on: June 6, at 8:29:37 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Here for the 2025 July Bar :D
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Re: Which top plaintiff firms allow 100% remote work for associates?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 6, at 8:09:05 pm   in: Legal Employment
boies
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Re: Wachtell (NYC) vs Munger (LA) vs Covington (DC) vs WilmerHale (DC)  
  by: nyulawbaby   on: June 6, at 7:57:56 pm   in: Legal Employment
You have to do wachtell.
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Re: Boies Schiller or Davis Polk (NY)?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 6, at 7:56:13 pm   in: Legal Employment
summer at BSF. would highly recommend. very autonomous internship with adequate support but no one breathing down your neck. also there is no in-person requirement for associates/partners (at least in the non-nyc office I am in but i'm pretty sure its firm-wide). summers are in 3x a week. good work.
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Re: Penn Law Honors  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 6, at 2:19:43 pm   in: Legal Employment
3.72, no cum
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Re: USMJ Clerkship -> NYC BigLaw Possible?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 6, at 1:42:23 pm   in: Legal Employment
Yes. Apply to every single V100 law firm as well as the top midlaw firms.
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Re: Let’s Talk DC Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 6, at 9:40:54 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562872 time=1749230985 user_id=45852]
Which DDC judges produce the highest quality of work? And generally, selectively correlates to that. But are there any exceptions here?
[/quote]

Boasberg, Freidrich, McFadden, Moss, and before Freidman.
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USMJ Clerkship -> NYC BigLaw Possible?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 6, at 8:24:38 am   in: Legal Employment
I just accepted a two-year USMJ clerkship in a relatively well-regarded district (major city, but not DC/NYC). I am a 2L (rising 3L now, I guess) and will graduate top 20% from a T50, maybe higher but probably not top 10%. I want to relocate to NYC after my clerkship, but the firm I summered at does not have an office there. If I apply broadly, is BigLaw realistic? MidLaw? Any advice is appreciated!
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Re: Let’s Talk DC Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 6, at 7:29:45 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Which DDC judges produce the highest quality of work? And generally, selectively correlates to that. But are there any exceptions here?
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Re: Clerks Taking Questions  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 6, at 7:04:32 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Just finished 1L at CLS, I missed Honors (top 40%) by a single +/-. I'm aware that's not good enough to snag AIII (not fedsoc), but does anyone have any idea how much better I'd need to do 2L and 3L to get back into consideration for a non-feeder COA anywhere or a district court in a major but not NY/DC/LA/SF city? Your career center should be able to give you a pretty solid idea with past placem...
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Re: Clerks Taking Questions  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 6, at 5:53:31 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Just finished 1L at CLS, I missed Honors (top 40%) by a single +/-. I'm aware that's not good enough to snag AIII (not fedsoc), but does anyone have any idea how much better I'd need to do 2L and 3L to get back into consideration for a non-feeder COA anywhere or a district court in a major but not NY/DC/LA/SF city? Your career center should be able to give you a pretty solid idea with past placem...
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Re: Clerks Taking Questions  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 6, at 5:50:25 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Just finished 1L at CLS, I missed Honors (top 40%) by a single +/-. I'm aware that's not good enough to snag AIII (not fedsoc), but does anyone have any idea how much better I'd need to do 2L and 3L to get back into consideration for a non-feeder COA anywhere or a district court in a major but not NY/DC/LA/SF city? Your career center should be able to give you a pretty solid idea with past placem...
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Re: Clerks Taking Questions  
  by: singer2001   on: June 6, at 5:05:21 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Just finished 1L at CLS, I missed Honors (top 40%) by a single +/-. I'm aware that's not good enough to snag AIII (not fedsoc), but does anyone have any idea how much better I'd need to do 2L and 3L to get back into consideration for a non-feeder COA anywhere or a district court in a major but not NY/DC/LA/SF city? Your career center should be able to give you a pretty solid idea with past placem...
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Re: Clerks Taking Questions  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 6, at 4:13:49 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Just finished 1L at CLS, I missed Honors (top 40%) by a single +/-. I'm aware that's not good enough to snag AIII (not fedsoc), but does anyone have any idea how much better I'd need to do 2L and 3L to get back into consideration for a non-feeder COA anywhere or a district court in a major but not NY/DC/LA/SF city? Your career center should be able to give you a pretty solid idea with past placem...
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Skadden vs. KE (Chicago)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 5, at 9:51:01 pm   in: Legal Employment
Interested in corporate and corprate subgroups
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Re: Clerks Taking Questions  
  by: singer2001   on: June 5, at 7:36:29 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Just finished 1L at CLS, I missed Honors (top 40%) by a single +/-. I'm aware that's not good enough to snag AIII (not fedsoc), but does anyone have any idea how much better I'd need to do 2L and 3L to get back into consideration for a non-feeder COA anywhere or a district court in a major but not NY/DC/LA/SF city?
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Re: AUSA/USAO hiring  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 5, at 12:01:32 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562563 time=1745955964 user_id=45852]
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562510 time=1744838086 user_id=45852]
Has anyone heard anything back from all these recent postings around the country? Currently sitting on 20 "referred to hiring manager," but haven't heard anything back. Some are approaching to a month since referral.
[/quote]
Update: received several interview requests from TX (major metropolitan areas, not border towns).
[/quote]
Got a job offer with a criminal division!
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Houston Lit Boutiques  
  by: singer2001   on: June 5, at 8:32:46 am   in: Legal Employment
Hey everyone! I just finished my 1L at a T6. Because I plan on staying at my first firm if possible I'd like to make as informed of a decision as possible and also would like to know which boutiques I'm competitive for. Keeping personal info relatively sparse because I have some offers from these places and am waiting to hear from others. 1) What grade cutoffs are the boutiques typically looking f...
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Re: PI-Interested Judges?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 5, at 4:28:42 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
OP here. Y’all, thanks for all the great advice. This is a huge relief. I’m now getting ready to fire off applications, but I’m stuck between sending them all out at once or in waves. Anyone tried applying in waves before, and would you recommend it? What was your timing like (a few days between waves, a week)?
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Re: Houston Lit Boutiques  
  by: singer2001   on: June 4, at 9:26:17 pm   in: Big Law/Private Practice Jobs
OP bump
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CHI: Skadden vs. KE?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 4, at 8:58:00 pm   in: Legal Employment
appreciate any insights into these firms’ offices. Interested in corporate but also don’t want to flame out in 2 years
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Re: PI-Interested Judges?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 4, at 4:51:13 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Clerked on 2/9/DC for a respected judge. Would definitely take a close look at someone with OP's on-paper credentials (though from experience, a lot of people with great grades and strong recs have let me down with their writing samples).
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Re: Let's Talk 3rd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 4, at 10:13:18 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Anyone know which EDPA and 3d Circuit judges are interviewing/have hired people for 2026 so far? And which judges are full for that term?
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Re: Let's Talk 3rd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 4, at 10:12:01 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562219 time=1741101684 user_id=45852]
I just heard that Freeman interviewed and hired a 3L.
[/quote]

For which term?
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Re: Let's Talk 9th Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 4, at 9:21:07 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Any pre-plan movement from CA9 COA judges?
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Re: Let's talk 6th Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 4, at 6:23:42 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Anyone hear back from Gibbons? Interviewed last month. Crickets…
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Re: Biglaw Partner - Biz Dev Coach Worth It?  
  by: Lacepiece23   on: June 3, at 7:03:32 pm   in: Legal Employment
There are an also a ton of great books that people in Biglaw don’t read. If you do, you will put yourself ahead of most. What are 3 books you'd recommend to the audience? Never split the difference (negotiation focused but applies to sales), traction (just good to have some business sense on how it operates), and how to win friends and influence people (classic, everyone should read). I’d start t...
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Re: Let's talk 6th Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 3, at 5:36:55 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Heard of someone with a Bloomekatz interview this week from HYS
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Re: Let's Talk 8th Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 3, at 2:50:29 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562845 time=1748990024 user_id=45852]
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562843 time=1748985089 user_id=45852]
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562841 time=1748965705 user_id=45852]
Anyone have insight into Stras' hiring process and the experience in his chambers?
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Really bad. Stay away.
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Idk where you got this info, but it isn’t what I’ve heard. I do get the impression that they work more than average on the Eighth Circuit, but it is an enjoyable experience.
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Stras's chambers are good. Expect long hours, but he advocates strongly for his clerks.
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Re: HLS Clerkships - suicide mission?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 3, at 2:30:55 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Respectfully, if the prospect of graduating cum laude at Harvard Law School makes you suicidal you [i]need[/i] to get that fixed as the type of shit you will take in the rest of your life will be substantially worse and you need to be equipped to handle it or you [i]will[/i] crash out.
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Re: PI-Interested Judges?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 3, at 2:05:47 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
[/i] This seems like very strange advice coming from a clerkship office. I agree, OP's grades are in roughly the top 15% of the class. To be honest, outside of 5-6 judges like Srinivasan and Boasberg, there shouldn't be any judge that is completely out of reach due to grades, and for most judges those grades should put the OP in a pretty comfortable position. Assuming the OP has strong rec letter...
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Re: HLS Clerkships - suicide mission?  
  by: lavarman84   on: June 3, at 2:05:05 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
I can only clerk on the 2nd circuit because of my girlfriend needs to live in NYC. I hit a fat L on 3L spring and missed magna. No Law review, no moot court, no judicial internships. One standard big law summer at a normal firm from HLS. I have profs supporting my app, but none of them are fancy and none of them call. I already have one clerkship (a very unimpressive state clerkship) lined up for...
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Re: Let's Talk 8th Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 3, at 12:33:44 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562843 time=1748985089 user_id=45852]
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562841 time=1748965705 user_id=45852]
Anyone have insight into Stras' hiring process and the experience in his chambers?
[/quote]

Really bad. Stay away.
[/quote]
Idk where you got this info, but it isn’t what I’ve heard. I do get the impression that they work more than average on the Eighth Circuit, but it is an enjoyable experience.
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Houston Lit Boutiques  
  by: singer2001   on: June 3, at 12:09:47 pm   in: Big Law/Private Practice Jobs
Hey everyone! I just finished my 1L at a T6. Because I plan on staying at my first firm if possible I'd like to make as informed of a decision as possible and also would like to know which boutiques I'm competitive for. Keeping personal info relatively sparse because I have some offers from these places and am waiting to hear from others. 1) What grade cutoffs are the boutiques typically looking f...
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Re: Let's Talk 8th Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 3, at 11:11:29 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562841 time=1748965705 user_id=45852]
Anyone have insight into Stras' hiring process and the experience in his chambers?
[/quote]

Really bad. Stay away.
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Penn Law Latin Honors  
  by: Lawstudent142   on: June 3, at 8:28:58 am   in: Forum for Law School Students
Does anyone have any insights into what the Latin honors cutoffs were for Penn Law this past year (2025)?
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Re: Let's Talk 8th Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 3, at 5:48:25 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Anyone have insight into Stras' hiring process and the experience in his chambers?
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Re: Trump Judicial Nominees?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 2, at 6:46:51 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
I thought Bradley too but apparently through the rumor mill - interviews for the seat was in DC a couple weeks ago and Bradley didn't even get an interview- I imagine WH is looking for someone a lil younger my bet is on Misha Tseytlin
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Re: Let's talk 6th Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 2, at 4:38:21 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Bloomekatz stans rise up ... if you got an interview open your purse, let me see …
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Re: HLS Clerkships - suicide mission?  
  by: fdsaasdffdsa   on: June 2, at 1:15:21 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
And just to emphasize what was implicit in Pm23's response: publishing and academia are not out of reach. Latin honors don't matter (though it sounds like you're probably still cum laude, barring an abysmal spring). Clerkships help, but what really matters is publications. Channel the newfound time you have after graduation into writing, and be sure to take advantage of the fifty free submissions ...
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Re: HLS Clerkships - suicide mission?  
  by: Pm23   on: June 2, at 12:58:58 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Also from HLS. If you're on the edge of magna you are in a good position. Here's what you should bear in mind: 1) Plan might be rough for you in NY area specifically. That's fine. There are others that will come up at irregular times. So many, actually. 2) Use the geographical restriction to your benefit. If you're applying to fewer judges, pull more strings for each one. Talk to former clerks for...
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Re: Wachtell (NYC) vs Munger (LA) vs Covington (DC) vs WilmerHale (DC)  
  by: gingermilkman   on: June 2, at 8:57:31 am   in: Legal Employment
If you are otherwise agnostic but want the most prestige and money: Wachtell. If you are otherwise agnostic but care about work life balance: Munger. If you really want to live in DC or work in Gov/main justice/etc: Covington for Regulatory, Wilmer for Appellate, probably equal for general lit. I think I would probably choose Munger in your position because I think their cases are generally more i...
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Re: Biglaw Partner - Biz Dev Coach Worth It?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 2, at 8:51:32 am   in: Legal Employment
[quote=Lacepiece23 post_id=10562818 time=1748704584 user_id=88274]
There are an also a ton of great books that people in Biglaw don’t read. If you do, you will put yourself ahead of most.
[/quote]

What are 3 books you'd recommend to the audience?
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Re: When is it appropriate to move on?  
  by: nealric   on: June 2, at 7:59:12 am   in: Legal Employment
Personally, I would say never. Sometimes life is about learning to take the win. Making six figures and not having to think to do it is rare. The problem is that if you don't grow your skills you'll end up completely dependent on the organization. If anything changes at that organization, you are up a creek. Government may seem "safe", but a lot of federal employees probably thought they had 100%...
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Re: Morgan & Morgan to Opening Solo?  
  by: nealric   on: June 2, at 7:22:47 am   in: Legal Employment
As a non-PI person (though I did briefly work as a PI paralegal during law school) I was under the impression that Morgan & Morgan was more of a marketing consortium for PI lawyers than a true law firm. Do they actually have a normal law firm hierarchy and lawyers all coming together in their offices regularly, or is it just eat what you kill for everyone? Generally, my impression of the PI world ...
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Poll – WWYD for NYC Litigation?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 2, at 7:13:05 am   in: Big Law/Private Practice Jobs
Don't have super firm interests, probably just general commercial or maybe securities. I don't think I'm interested in White Collar and I don't think I'd be competitive for Appellate, if that even exists in NYC.
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Re: HLS Clerkships - suicide mission?  
  by: Wild Card   on: June 2, at 6:30:58 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Well, law school was a waste of 3 years and $300,000+, but not for the reason you think. What exactly do you want to do, and that you are not able to do, with a 3.9 GPA from HLS? Also, what's "unimpressive"? Is this literally traffic court, or the New York Court of Appeals? Like, I'm suicidal right now because I'm stuck at a dead-end, mind-numbingly boring bigfed job after clerking for two years a...
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Re: Clerks Taking Questions  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 2, at 4:52:41 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Would it be weird to invite my judge, who I am clerking for in 2026, to my wedding that is happening in a few months? I don't want him to officiate, but I do want to invite him, unless it would be weird given that our relationship is not that close at this point. Yes, it would be weird. Don't overthink this. Thanks. One of the current clerks asked if I was going to do that, so I wasn't sure if it...
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Re: Clerks Taking Questions  
  by: siri949   on: June 2, at 4:50:41 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
[quote=VirginiaFan post_id=10562822 time=1748728110 user_id=162431]
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562813 time=1748640954 user_id=45852]
Would it be weird to invite my judge, who I am clerking for in 2026, to my wedding that is happening in a few months? I don't want him to officiate, but I do want to invite him, unless it would be weird given that our relationship is not that close at this point.
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Yes, it would be weird. Don't overthink this.
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Seconding this
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Re: HLS Clerkships - suicide mission?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 2, at 3:58:01 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Your chances might not be especially strong this cycle but could improve in the future. None of what you've said sounds disqualifying, so you should still just try. If there's a public interest angle you could take, that could help open a door. Otherwise, if I were you, I would take the geographic cue to focus on landing a firm (or government, if that suits you) job in NYC after your state court c...
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Re: Morgan & Morgan to Opening Solo?  
  by: Lacepiece23   on: June 2, at 2:17:41 am   in: Legal Employment
Currently doing extremely boring general commercial litigation at a mid-sized firm and getting minimal experience outside of drafting research memos and occasional portions of briefs. Junior/midlevel. I've been contacted by some Morgan & Morgan recruiters and I'm considering it. My goal is to get trial experience/learn how to take a case from start to finish and eventually open my own Personal In...
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Re: Penn Law Honors  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 1, at 6:09:02 pm   in: Legal Employment
3.96 was magna / coif.
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Wachtell (NYC) vs Munger (LA) vs Covington (DC) vs WilmerHale (DC)  
  by: Bshot   on: June 1, at 5:39:06 pm   in: Legal Employment
Need help choosing between 2L offers. Likely interested in litigation but really no strong preference beyond that. No geographical ties to any of the locations with slight preference against NYC. Which would open the most doors in the future? My current debate is between $$$ (wachtell) and WLB / pro-bono (Wilmer / Munger) and DC prestige (Covington). Curious how others would think through these fi...
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Re: How common is it for clerks to need a security clearance?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 1, at 12:14:49 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Sorry I'm late on this - but it came up later. I've talked to my judge about it after the fact though, and she's said that she wouldn't have had an issue with an incoming telling her they didn't feel comfortable getting a clearance (and that it's happened before) - she'd just have one of the other clerks get cleared and handle the matter instead. I needed one for my EDNY clerkship and my friend ne...
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Re: Trump Judicial Nominees?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 1, at 8:01:52 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Any bets on Sykes’s seat? I’d guess Justice Bradley from Wisconsin.
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Re: Clerks Taking Questions  
  by: VirginiaFan   on: May 31, at 11:48:30 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562813 time=1748640954 user_id=45852]
Would it be weird to invite my judge, who I am clerking for in 2026, to my wedding that is happening in a few months? I don't want him to officiate, but I do want to invite him, unless it would be weird given that our relationship is not that close at this point.
[/quote]

Yes, it would be weird. Don't overthink this.
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Re: Penn Law Honors  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 31, at 11:15:04 am   in: Legal Employment
Does anyone know what the cutoffs were this year?
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Re: When is it appropriate to move on?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 31, at 10:57:30 am   in: Legal Employment
I'm in a very similar situation, except in bigfed. I think it's a nice to land in a position like yours after life has chewed you up and spit you out, but it's kind of insane to just retire immediately out of law school.
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Morgan & Morgan to Opening Solo?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 31, at 9:55:25 am   in: Legal Employment
Currently doing extremely boring general commercial litigation at a mid-sized firm and getting minimal experience outside of drafting research memos and occasional portions of briefs. Junior/midlevel. I've been contacted by some Morgan & Morgan recruiters and I'm considering it. My goal is to get trial experience/learn how to take a case from start to finish and eventually open my own Personal Inj...
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Re: Biglaw Partner - Biz Dev Coach Worth It?  
  by: Lacepiece23   on: May 31, at 5:16:24 am   in: Legal Employment
As someone that owns his own business, this is a question that marks a mindset shift. Are you a business or a worker? Do you have any sales experience? Do you want to be a rainmaker? 7k is a drop in the bucket. I personally spend like 60-100k a year in marketing, coaching, and self development. There are an also a ton of great books that people in Biglaw don’t read. If you do, you will put yoursel...
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Re: Clerks Taking Questions  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 31, at 4:47:39 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Would it be weird to invite my judge, who I am clerking for in 2026, to my wedding that is happening in a few months? I don't want him to officiate, but I do want to invite him, unless it would be weird given that our relationship is not that close at this point. For what it's worth, I know a class of 2025 graduate who is starting a clerkship in the fall, but getting married this summer -- their ...
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Re: When is it appropriate to move on?  
  by: asdfasdf2   on: May 30, at 5:34:48 pm   in: Legal Employment
Personally, I would say never. Sometimes life is about learning to take the win. Making six figures and not having to think to do it is rare.
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Re: PI-Interested Judges?  
  by: Pm23   on: May 30, at 2:18:56 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Also HLS, but a few years out.



I don't think anything is out of the question, but you should know the route to COA is much, much easier after you get a DC. Go for everything, but here's what I would say so you don't freak out: if you get DC this summer, count that as a win. The fight will continue after that.
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Re: Would I be able to land a summer associate role if I return to law school as a 2L? Very unique situation.  
  by: gingermilkman   on: May 30, at 12:17:13 pm   in: Legal Employment
I do feel like you are a few steps ahead of yourself here. If you want to get a biglaw summer associate position, your are going to need to transfer to a top law school. You need excellent grades to transfer to a top law school, but here you have such poor grades you were actually academically dismissed. It seems incredibly unlikely that you would be able to transfer to a t-14 law school. I feel l...
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Re: Clerks Taking Questions  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 30, at 11:35:54 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Would it be weird to invite my judge, who I am clerking for in 2026, to my wedding that is happening in a few months? I don't want him to officiate, but I do want to invite him, unless it would be weird given that our relationship is not that close at this point.
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Re: Let's talk 6th Circuit!  
  by: lawluvr123   on: May 30, at 9:03:51 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Has anyone heard or know anyone whose heard from Stranch or Bloomenkatz?
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Re: cd cal judges to avoid  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 30, at 9:00:40 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Curious to what people have heard about Kato? Haven’t found much of her in this thread
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Re: Let's Talk 3rd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 30, at 8:56:58 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Anyone have insight on Bibas' hiring process? How selective is he in terms of grades and school? Seems like he hires from a relatively wide range of schools within the T14, which gives me some hope. Thanks! Right now, Bibas and Sutton are probably the two circuit judges that can and do send the majority of their clerks to SCOTUS. They hire accordingly. If by “relatively wide range of schools” you...
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Re: Clerks Taking Questions  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 30, at 7:41:32 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Are motions like a motion for summary reversal okay to use as writing samples, or would that be too simple? This can be fine so long as your position is debatable. Sometimes I see writing samples that are basically like district court erred when they relied entirely on an opinion that was overruled. I assume potentially if you're asking for a summary reversal it may be so obvious that there is no...
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Re: Let's Talk 3rd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 30, at 7:03:30 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562799 time=1748566370 user_id=45852]
Anyone sending pre-confirmation apps to Bove?
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Where would the info be for this/how does one apply pre-confirmation?
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Re: Boies Schiller or Davis Polk (NY)?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 30, at 6:29:13 am   in: Legal Employment
Both great options. DPW is your more traditional massive white shoe firm that’ll be a great name on the resume, but it’s also more of a corporate powerhouse than lit. You almost assuredly would not see a courtroom there for several years. BSF lost some of its prestige after the fallout 5 years ago, but they do seem to have had a very impressive last 2 years and are likely on a positive upward tren...
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Re: PI-Interested Judges?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 30, at 6:23:03 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
You are not cooked. I did not get Latin honors at a Duke/MVP-tier school and will be clerking in a competitive district (CDCA/NDIL/EDNY), albeit with post-grad work experience. But looking at our alum database of who’s clerking where — you are as in contention as you’ve ever been for COA clerkships. Clerkship offices give really conservative advice because to a certain extent it’s a zero-sum game ...
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Re: Delaware Court of Chancery 2025-2026  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 30, at 5:15:34 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Not much movement
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Re: Penn Law Honors  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 30, at 5:05:17 am   in: Legal Employment
3.93 got order and magna.
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Re: HLS Clerkships - suicide mission?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 30, at 3:55:56 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Do you mean you got a Low Pass or that you narrowly missed magna? I would also consider CA3 judges sitting in Newark, who tend to be somewhat less selective. NYC is very competitive for both district and circuit clerkships, with far more qualified candidates than spots.
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Re: Biglaw Partner - Biz Dev Coach Worth It?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 30, at 3:45:58 am   in: Legal Employment
I am a new partner in a BigLaw firm. I have plenty of work to do but mostly its servicing other partners. I am eager to develop my own stand alone practice. I had an initial consultation with a Biglaw business development coach. He claims to have had a lot of success with other Biglaw partners. But his fee is about $7,000. Anyone have any experience with this? Is this worth it? I have some friend...
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Re: Let's talk 5th Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 30, at 3:38:25 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562786 time=1748455851 user_id=45852]
Does anybody have info on Kyle Duncan? What he's like as a boss, selectivity, etc.--anything. Thanks!
[/quote]

Worked with a former clerk, graduated magna from a T14 (not HYSC) within recent memory. The clerk spoke fondly of the experience and chambers, but he also had a poor reputation in the office work-wise and interpersonally.
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Boies Schiller or Davis Polk (NY)?  
  by: luciebrown20   on: May 29, at 3:31:24 pm   in: Legal Employment
Does anyone have any insight/advice on which to choose for 2L summer? I'm interested in trial work and leaning towards Boies, but wondering if the better strategy might be to start at Davis Polk and lateral to a boutique later on?
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Re: Let's Talk 3rd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 29, at 2:52:50 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Anyone sending pre-confirmation apps to Bove?
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Re: Let's Talk 3rd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 29, at 2:11:27 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Anyone have insight on Bibas' hiring process? How selective is he in terms of grades and school? Seems like he hires from a relatively wide range of schools within the T14, which gives me some hope. Thanks! Right now, Bibas and Sutton are probably the two circuit judges that can and do send the majority of their clerks to SCOTUS. They hire accordingly. If by “relatively wide range of schools” you...
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O'Melveny or Gibson Dunn? (SF, litigation)  
  by: sldfkjsldfkjdf   on: May 29, at 1:20:28 pm   in: Legal Employment
I've enjoyed my interactions with attorneys from both firms. GDC is higher ranked in lit but I've heard rumors that it's a sweatshop. The people at O'Melveny were very very nice. I'm having a hard time deciding between the two--anyone with insider knowledge that could tip the scales?
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Re: Let's Talk 3rd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 29, at 8:44:14 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Anyone have insight on Bibas' hiring process? How selective is he in terms of grades and school? Seems like he hires from a relatively wide range of schools within the T14, which gives me some hope. Thanks! Right now, Bibas and Sutton are probably the two circuit judges that can and do send the majority of their clerks to SCOTUS. They hire accordingly. If by “relatively wide range of schools” you...
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Re: What was the HLS magna cutoff last year?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 29, at 8:01:04 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Any information on cut-offs for this year?
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=314955

Re: Let's Talk 3rd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 28, at 3:50:50 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Anyone have insight on Bibas' hiring process? How selective is he in terms of grades and school? Seems like he hires from a relatively wide range of schools within the T14, which gives me some hope. Thanks! Right now, Bibas and Sutton are probably the two circuit judges that can and do send the majority of their clerks to SCOTUS. They hire accordingly. If by “relatively wide range of schools” you...
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=206977

Re: Let's Talk 3rd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 28, at 3:09:11 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Anyone have insight on Bibas' hiring process? How selective is he in terms of grades and school? Seems like he hires from a relatively wide range of schools within the T14, which gives me some hope. Thanks! Right now, Bibas and Sutton are probably the two circuit judges that can and do send the majority of their clerks to SCOTUS. They hire accordingly. If by “relatively wide range of schools” you...
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=206977

Re: Paul Hastings DC v. Akin DC v. Sidley NY v. Cleary NY  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 28, at 3:04:33 pm   in: Legal Employment
OP - ik many years later, but any insights from how it went?
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=253345

Re: Let's Talk 3rd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 28, at 1:52:07 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Bibas is extremely grade picky. You can't have more than 1 B+ on your transcript. He hires SCOTUS-quality candidates
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Re: Let's Talk 3rd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 28, at 1:52:06 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Bibas is extremely grade picky. You can't have more than 1 B+ on your transcript. He hires SCOTUS-quality candidates
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=206977

Re: Let's talk 6th Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 28, at 1:05:23 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
This might be a stupid question, but does Thapar even consider applicants from schools other than the ones he most often hires from/the ones where he has faculty connections? E.g., if I'm at a T14 he's only hired from twice in the past (a while ago). It seems like his hiring process is connection-driven in the extreme, so I was curious if I'd be wasting my time applying to him in the first place....
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=205435

Re: Best conservative judges to clerk for?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 28, at 1:03:46 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562785 time=1748455815 user_id=45852]
Does anybody have info on Kyle Duncan? What he's like as a boss, selectivity, etc.--anything. Thanks!
[/quote]

He's very nice, but his selection process is driven mostly by connections and how conservative you are. He will hire local students.
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=314469

Re: Penn Law Honors  
  by: mjaseidh   on: May 28, at 11:57:21 am   in: Legal Employment
3.8 was enough for cum this year. No idea what the range was.
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Re: Let's talk 5th Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 28, at 8:10:51 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Does anybody have info on Kyle Duncan? What he's like as a boss, selectivity, etc.--anything. Thanks!
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=205581

Re: Best conservative judges to clerk for?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 28, at 8:10:15 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Does anybody have info on Kyle Duncan? What he's like as a boss, selectivity, etc.--anything. Thanks!
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=314469

Re: Let's talk 6th Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 28, at 8:03:00 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
This might be a stupid question, but does Thapar even consider applicants from schools other than the ones he most often hires from/the ones where he has faculty connections? E.g., if I'm at a T14 he's only hired from twice in the past (a while ago). It seems like his hiring process is connection-driven in the extreme, so I was curious if I'd be wasting my time applying to him in the first place....
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=205435

Re: Let's Talk 3rd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 28, at 8:02:59 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Anyone have insight on Bibas' hiring process? How selective is he in terms of grades and school? Seems like he hires from a relatively wide range of schools within the T14, which gives me some hope. Thanks!
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=206977

Re: Let's talk 6th Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 28, at 7:59:17 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
This might be a stupid question, but does Thapar even consider applicants from schools other than the ones he most often hires from/the ones where he has faculty connections? E.g., if I'm at a T14 he's only hired from twice in the past (a while ago). It seems like his hiring process is connection-driven in the extreme, so I was curious if I'd be wasting my time applying to him in the first place.
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=205435

Possible Move from LA to Philly (PI Lawyer)  
  by:   on: May 28, at 7:49:53 am   in: Small & Midsized Firms
I am considering a move from a top PI firm in Beverly Hills back to home area of Philadelphia. Cost to purchase a home, cost of living, increasing traffic, and increased difficulty of obtaining insurance have made southern California less desirable than even a few years ago. As such, I am considering a move back to Philadelphia from southern California in the next year or two. For reference, I hav...
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Biglaw Partner - Biz Dev Coach Worth It?  
  by: Newbie7749   on: May 28, at 3:40:19 am   in: Legal Employment
I am a new partner in a BigLaw firm. I have plenty of work to do but mostly its servicing other partners. I am eager to develop my own stand alone practice. I had an initial consultation with a Biglaw business development coach. He claims to have had a lot of success with other Biglaw partners. But his fee is about $7,000. Anyone have any experience with this? Is this worth it?
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=315806

Latham DC  
  by: andslippery   on: May 28, at 2:26:38 am   in: Legal Employment
Does anyone have any experience with the Latham DC office? How is the cafeteria? Is there a parking garage?
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Re: Paths forward after BigFed job cancelled?  
  by: SecondArbiter   on: May 27, at 10:54:42 am   in: Legal Employment
OP, what did you end up pursuing? The job market has been brutal for me. I’m not getting a lot of responses from big law firms Sorry to hear about your experiences; I'm still not looking at big firms, but I've heard of similar struggles from others and hope something eventually materialized for you. I'm still looking, to be honest. I'm trying to find a position with a nonprofit that's addressing ...
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Re: How common is it for clerks to need a security clearance?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 26, at 4:46:09 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
My SDNY judge asked pretty far in advance that at least one of the three of us have or apply a clearance in case something came up during the year, but it certainly wasn’t a condition of our employment.
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=315029

Re: 2025-2026 Post-Clerkship Hiring  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 26, at 4:32:32 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
I /think/ it’s probably a little too early to start, just based on the recruiting cadence at my DC firm. (But to one of your later questions, I quit my job to clerk last Friday and got the standard “just call us when you’re ready to come back” offer).
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Re: How to Answer "Why This Judge/This Court" in a Cover Letter  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 26, at 3:53:00 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
As I prepare my applications, I'm finding that more judges than I expected want cover letters that tailored in some way to them. For example, one OSCAR posting says, "The strongest cover letters will explain why the candidate wishes to clerk on [this court] and for [this judge] in particular." I'm struggling with what to single out about a judge. Let's say the reason I want to clerk for them is b...
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NYC Trial Boutiques  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 24, at 5:33:09 am   in: Legal Employment
Coming out of clerkship eventually and aiming to apply to boutiques in nyc that can give me the most trial / appeals experience (focusing more on trial since appeals work in nyc is more limited). Some firms I'm looking at: Hecker Fink (seems like amazing for crim work but unclear how many trials they do per year, or if its mostly investigations. Their civil rights appeals work seems top notch thou...
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Re: Clerks Taking Questions  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 24, at 5:00:02 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Are motions like a motion for summary reversal okay to use as writing samples, or would that be too simple?
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=146252

Would I be able to land a summer associate role if I return to law school as a 2L? Very unique situation.  
  by:   on: May 23, at 9:00:40 am   in: Legal Employment
Hi all, I have a VERY unique situation and I was hoping to get some insight about it. I attended a law school (ranked mid 50s) in 2015-2016 but was dismissed for not meeting the GPA requirement ( I got below a 2.0). I was very unfocused rather than I could not understand the material. I took summer courses through a study abroad program at another school in 2016 because I did not know I was going ...
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HLS Clerkships - suicide mission?  
  by: 768thwoerw768   on: May 23, at 7:39:33 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
I can only clerk on the 2nd circuit because of my girlfriend needs to live in NYC. I hit a fat L on 3L spring and missed magna. No Law review, no moot court, no judicial internships. One standard big law summer at a normal firm from HLS. I have profs supporting my app, but none of them are fancy and none of them call. I already have one clerkship (a very unimpressive state clerkship) lined up for ...
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Re: Delaware Court of Chancery 2025-2026  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 22, at 2:51:55 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Still nothing?
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=315152

Re: HLS Latin Honors  
  by:   on: May 22, at 8:44:31 am   in: Forum for Law School Students
Providing a data point! Made cum laude with a 3.70.
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Re: PI-Interested Judges?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 22, at 8:12:42 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Hi all. OP here. Thanks for your thoughts, this process is nerve-wracking. Got my 2L Spring Semester grades today and they’re alright. 3 Hs, 1 P. Was hoping for another DS but what can you do. Been taking heavy doctrinal courses all throughout but my latest grades make me nervous for upcoming clerkship applications. Be honest with me: Am I done for? Is a CoA clerkship still obtainable? Aside from ...
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HLS Latin Honors 2025  
  by: somethingunknown   on: May 22, at 7:58:02 am   in: Forum for Law School Students
Found these helpful in the past so figured I'd share, I got CL with what (I think) is a 3.74. Not sure how people calculate their own GPA accurately, but I weighted by credits each year and then averaged the 3 years together.
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Re: How to Answer "Why This Judge/This Court" in a Cover Letter  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 22, at 3:42:32 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
As I prepare my applications, I'm finding that more judges than I expected want cover letters that tailored in some way to them. For example, one OSCAR posting says, "The strongest cover letters will explain why the candidate wishes to clerk on [this court] and for [this judge] in particular." I'm struggling with what to single out about a judge. Let's say the reason I want to clerk for them is b...
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Re: Let's talk 2nd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 21, at 3:54:10 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Several SDNY judges have been interviewing 3Ls and alums now before the Plan opens
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=206410

Re: How to Answer "Why This Judge/This Court" in a Cover Letter  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 21, at 10:16:03 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
No it is totally fine to clerk for a judge because what they did as an advocate. In fact, that is what differentiates them. They're all judges now. Just don't say I want to clerk for you because you were a public defender and I want to ensure the caselaw better protects defendants or something like that as for some judges they may get worried that you won't be able to be a neutral clerk. (Although...
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Re: Let's talk 6th Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 21, at 9:31:44 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Have not heard myself or that others have heard from either Stranch or Bloomekatz
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Re: Delaware Court of Chancery 2025-2026  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 21, at 4:20:35 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Believe offers are going out. Someone I know received an offer.
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=315152

Re: Delaware Court of Chancery 2025-2026  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 20, at 8:25:20 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
I know interviews for the Magi went out. Unsure of the VCs and Chancellor.
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Re: Let's talk 6th Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 20, at 7:50:08 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Does anyone know if Bloomekatz has started offering interviews for 3Ls/alumni? I believe her posting indicated that 3Ls and alumni should apply by May 19.
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Re: Question about a district court clerkship after appellate  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 20, at 6:30:10 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
"T14 magnas are a dime a dozen"



This is insane. Average TLS user hahaha
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Re: Zuckerman Spaeder  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 20, at 1:35:49 am   in: Legal Employment
Any intel?
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=297005

Re: Best tools for navigating law school and building a legal career?  
  by:   on: May 19, at 9:06:48 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
Just to add a quick follow-up to my previous post, While looking around for productivity tips and ways to stay organized as a law student, I came across FounderJar . It's not law-specific, but it does offer a lot of practical advice on time management, productivity tools, and setting up efficient workflows, stuff that’s definitely relevant when juggling classes, readings, and long-term planning li...
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How to Answer "Why This Judge/This Court" in a Cover Letter  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 19, at 4:19:07 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
As I prepare my applications, I'm finding that more judges than I expected want cover letters that tailored in some way to them. For example, one OSCAR posting says, "The strongest cover letters will explain why the candidate wishes to clerk on [this court] and for [this judge] in particular." I'm struggling with what to single out about a judge. Let's say the reason I want to clerk for them is be...
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Litigation: Akin (CA) v. Boies Schiller (CA)  
  by: Busyassociate1   on: May 19, at 2:40:20 am   in: Legal Employment
Any insight on these two firms for CA lit as an associate?
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=315784

Re: Judges Who Hire 1Ls?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 18, at 6:09:34 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Readler does on CA6, but I have heard to avoid him. I don't know what Readler is like as a boss but when i was on the Sixth Circuit he seemed very nice and personable and friendly with his clerks so this is very suprising to me. Maybe more fratty in the vein of Thapar or Nalbandian though so I guess if that is not your crowd, you wouldn't do well. I clerked on the Sixth when Readler was relativel...
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Re: Boutiques that allow remote/WFH?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 18, at 6:08:22 pm   in: Legal Employment
Boies Schiller
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Re: Possible to get a flyover D. Ct. clerkship with median grades from CCN?  
  by: Wild Card   on: May 18, at 1:26:16 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
You need ties and/or a hook. A few years of BL lit experience is very desirable.
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Re: Question about a district court clerkship after appellate  
  by: Wild Card   on: May 18, at 1:24:17 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
It's a real job, you learn a lot, and it's different from what you did at the appellate level. So why wouldn't you do one? It's a fun, once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.



Also, as you seem to understand, T14 magnas are a dime a dozen. This is another meaningful credential that will help you stand out.
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Re: Judges Who Hire 1Ls?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 18, at 9:35:22 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Which judges are known to hire 1Ls? I've heard Thapar, Newsom, Stras, and Richardson often hire very early. Any others? I assume most are FedSoc judges? Most Fed Soc judges will hire, at the least, candidates with two semesters of grades. Some will hire clerks with one or zero semesters of grades--I know Newsom, Richardson, Oldham, and Thapar have in the past--but that's more unusual. All else be...
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Re: Question about a district court clerkship after appellate  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 18, at 9:24:18 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
A district court has many benefits and learning opportunities that you won't get at the COA level. You will get to be in court, get to see how a case runs, how a case settles, how lawyers think, and how trials operate. You won't get that at the COA level.
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Re: Judges Who Hire 1Ls?  
  by:   on: May 18, at 9:23:59 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Which judges are known to hire 1Ls? I've heard Thapar, Newsom, Stras, and Richardson often hire very early. Any others? I assume most are FedSoc judges? Most Fed Soc judges will hire, at the least, candidates with two semesters of grades. Some will hire clerks with one or zero semesters of grades--I know Newsom, Richardson, Oldham, and Thapar have in the past--but that's more unusual. All else be...
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Re: Judges Who Hire 1Ls?  
  by:   on: May 18, at 9:19:21 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562726 time=1747448632 user_id=45852]
I’ve heard Judge Ho hires 1Ls
[/quote]

What is Ho like as a boss? I've been kinda surprised that he hasn't fed any clerks to SCOTUS yet. Does he just not care about that? His former clerks seem to be doing well for themselves, I will say.
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Re: DPW vs. GDC vs. Skadden vs. CSM for NYC Lit?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 18, at 9:06:06 am   in: Legal Employment
Fungible but I would put the other three above Skadden for general lit.
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Re: DPW vs. GDC vs. Skadden vs. CSM for NYC Lit?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 18, at 9:04:27 am   in: Legal Employment
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562686 time=1747167440 user_id=45852]
Just curious but why aren't we talking about Kaplan's new firm instead of Hecker Fink, which is just another good litigation boutique? The whole point of going there was to work with Roberta Kaplan (have fun)
[/quote]

Hecker Fink has like 8 Chambers-ranked partners, including Sean Hecker, who is a top top white-collar lawyer, Kaplan Martin has 1, who is so difficult that her own firm forced her out.
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Re: Judges Who Hire 1Ls?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 18, at 8:56:51 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Which judges are known to hire 1Ls? I've heard Thapar, Newsom, Stras, and Richardson often hire very early. Any others? I assume most are FedSoc judges? Most Fed Soc judges will hire, at the least, candidates with two semesters of grades. Some will hire clerks with one or zero semesters of grades--I know Newsom, Richardson, Oldham, and Thapar have in the past--but that's more unusual. All else be...
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Re: Judges Who Hire 1Ls?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 18, at 8:54:48 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Readler comes off as a bit of a tool interpersonally imo but I don't know that that's a reason to avoid him.
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Re: Question about a district court clerkship after appellate  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 18, at 8:51:21 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
The reason people do both is that district court clerkships are less prestigious, but significantly more practical, so quite a few people want to do a district court but not just a district court. But there's no reason at all why you have to do one if you don't want to. As mentioned, the most notable exception where you really should consider doing both is if you want to practice federal criminal ...
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Re: Judges Who Hire 1Ls?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 18, at 6:23:49 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562738 time=1747581509 user_id=45852]
Readler does on CA6, but I have heard to avoid him.
[/quote]

I don't know what Readler is like as a boss but when i was on the Sixth Circuit he seemed very nice and personable and friendly with his clerks so this is very suprising to me. Maybe more fratty in the vein of Thapar or Nalbandian though so I guess if that is not your crowd, you wouldn't do well.
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Re: Question about a district court clerkship after appellate  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 18, at 6:21:58 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
I did 1 year biglaw > COA > Dct -- planned on doing just one clerkship but that's how my application cycle worked out. Loved both clerkships but there were definitely diminishing returns to the second. Also, losing a year at a firm is a meaningful detriment to your goodwill/reputation there, especially at bigger firms where it's already hard enough to stand out. OTOH, i f you want to be a crimina...
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Re: Question about a district court clerkship after appellate  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 18, at 5:38:01 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
I did 1 year biglaw > COA > Dct -- planned on doing just one clerkship but that's how my application cycle worked out. Loved both clerkships but there were definitely diminishing returns to the second. Also, losing a year at a firm is a meaningful detriment to your goodwill/reputation there, especially at bigger firms where it's already hard enough to stand out. OTOH, if you want to be a criminal ...
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Re: Question about a district court clerkship after appellate  
  by: Crazysnackaroo   on: May 18, at 5:23:27 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
No need to snag another. You've got the COA. Aside from the most competitive districts, many AUSAs don't clerk and many don't go to a T14. If SDNY or a similar place is your absolute goal, I still don't think you need to the dist. ct. clerkship. The COA + T14 magna show you could've gotten one. I really wouldn't worry about this. Go work and see what you like doing/want to do.
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Re: Judges Who Hire 1Ls?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 18, at 5:18:29 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Readler does on CA6, but I have heard to avoid him.
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Re: Let's talk 2nd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 18, at 4:15:50 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
No job or credential is worth your dignity.
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Boutiques that allow remote/WFH?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 18, at 3:15:08 am   in: Legal Employment
Curious if any top boutiques still consistently allow for remote work? Needless to say, QE is not a boutique.
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Re: Question about a district court clerkship after appellate  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 17, at 11:59:58 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
I don’t think doing a district court clerkship *on top* of appellate is necessary for DOJ. I don’t think it’s ever going to hurt, but I’ve come across more people who’ve clerked once than twice. I think the further along you are when you make the jump, the more your hire will be about your experience, what people can say about you, and how well you can articulate what you bring to the job/your co...
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Re: Question about a district court clerkship after appellate  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 17, at 10:08:18 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
I don’t think doing a district court clerkship *on top* of appellate is necessary for DOJ. I don’t think it’s ever going to hurt, but I’ve come across more people who’ve clerked once than twice. I think the further along you are when you make the jump, the more your hire will be about your experience, what people can say about you, and how well you can articulate what you bring to the job/your com...
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Re: Let's talk 2nd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 17, at 10:05:48 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
You'd be suprised. Agreed. There's a judge in our courthouse who has a reputation for being extremely difficult to work for and his clerks are just as well credentialed as everyone else. I think in some instances, the word doesn't spread so well (looking back at my judge list from when I was applying, there are judges I would've been happy to get an interview with who I now know would not have pr...
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Re: Let's talk 2nd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 17, at 9:33:55 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Is Perez then just accepting low-quality (or lower) applicants? I can’t imagine high-achieving law students/lawyers who would accept a clerkship at the risk of being fired and likely abused/overworked if they had the credentials to have other options. You'd be suprised. Agreed. There's a judge in our courthouse who has a reputation for being extremely difficult to work for and his clerks are just...
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Re: Let's talk 2nd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 17, at 8:32:10 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Eunice Lee, and to a lesser degree, Myrna Perez. Myrna was well known as the worst bully at the Brennan Center. She had a talent for cruelty toward women especially. She would tear them down for sport to make herself feel better with her own insecurities. She likely had BPD and tried to control her team’s whole lives in an all encompassing, narcissistic, and violating way. Enough people on this t...
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Re: Let's talk 2nd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 17, at 8:31:23 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Former CA2 clerk. While Menashi is probably the judge the other judges like the least because he is an unprincipled troll, Perez seems like the worst experience for the clerks. Is Perez then just accepting low-quality (or lower) applicants? I can’t imagine high-achieving law students/lawyers who would accept a clerkship at the risk of being fired and likely abused/overworked if they had the crede...
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Re: Delaware Court of Chancery 2025-2026  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 17, at 3:11:51 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Magistrates are already interviewing I believe. Unsure of Chancellor McCormick and the VC's.
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2025-2026 Post-Clerkship Hiring  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 17, at 12:12:39 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Creating this thread now given how weird the market is at the moment and how unclear the hiring timeline can be. Has anyone started this process? If so, how’s it going? What are you looking for/what are your general credentials? If not, what’s your plan? Are those who were previously at firms able to return if they wish to do so? Thanks in advance for contributing.
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Re: Let’s Talk DC Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 16, at 6:30:38 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562722 time=1747420320 user_id=45852]
Does anyone know if Garcia has started interviewing?
[/quote]

would also love to know... is he planning to wait until the plan for all candidates?
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Re: Judges Who Hire 1Ls?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 16, at 4:23:52 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
I’ve heard Judge Ho hires 1Ls
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Re: Judges Who Hire 1Ls?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 16, at 11:01:03 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
+ Kovner, Wilkinson, Matey, Park, and Menashi
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Re: C&F: Fired from legal assistant job  
  by:   on: May 16, at 9:30:54 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Won't have an impact on C+F at all. When in doubt, disclose. It's fine as long as your mental health is under control. Thanks for the reassurance. This event was basically a wake up call that my mental health was not in a good place and I am proud to say that I have made strides in that regard. Truthfully although I do sincerely wish I could go back and change what happened I think it played an i...
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Re: C&F: Fired from legal assistant job  
  by: Crazysnackaroo   on: May 16, at 9:21:53 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Won't have an impact on C+F at all. When in doubt, disclose. It's fine as long as your mental health is under control.
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Re: Let’s Talk DC Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 16, at 8:32:00 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Does anyone know if Garcia has started interviewing?
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Re: Judges Who Hire 1Ls?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 16, at 7:13:18 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Judge Jerry Smith on the Fifth Circuit hires exclusively 1Ls who have received two semesters of grades
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Re: Let's talk 2nd Circuit!  
  by: lavarman84   on: May 16, at 5:54:00 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
1) The DC Circuit >>>> 2nd Circuit; 2) While Perez is fine, Pan’s career trajectory blows Perez’s out of the water and she’s already produced a couple of Bristows. Not saying the abuse is justified because her credentials are better or that the clerkship is “more” prestigious, but a Perez clerkship hardly seems worth the pain. Neither clerkship is worth the pain. But many law students don't have ...
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C&F: Fired from legal assistant job  
  by:   on: May 16, at 4:50:59 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Back in 2022 my first full time job out of university, I worked as a legal assistant. Initially I was very successful in that role but due to circumstances regarding my mental health at the time, my performance eventually declined and I was not doing the same level of work I did previously as well as me often having to take unexpected personal days due to my mental health or other factors. Althoug...
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Re: Let's talk 2nd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 16, at 3:43:20 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562717 time=1747371123 user_id=45852]


1) The DC Circuit >>>> 2nd Circuit; 2) While Perez is fine, Pan’s career trajectory blows Perez’s out of the water and she’s already produced a couple of Bristows. Not saying the abuse is justified because her credentials are better or that the clerkship is “more” prestigious, but a Perez clerkship hardly seems worth the pain.
[/quote]

Pan has had 1 Bristow, and she had very little to do with it.
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Re: Let's talk 2nd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 15, at 6:52:03 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Myrna was well known as the worst bully at the Brennan Center. She had a talent for cruelty toward women especially. She would tear them down for sport to make herself feel better with her own insecurities. She likely had BPD and tried to control her team’s whole lives in an all encompassing, narcissistic, and violating way. Enough people on this thread have warned applicants she is abusive and e...
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Re: Let's talk 2nd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 15, at 3:48:26 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Eunice Lee, and to a lesser degree, Myrna Perez. Myrna was well known as the worst bully at the Brennan Center. She had a talent for cruelty toward women especially. She would tear them down for sport to make herself feel better with her own insecurities. She likely had BPD and tried to control her team’s whole lives in an all encompassing, narcissistic, and violating way. Enough people on this t...
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Re: S&C (NY) v. Wilmer Hale (Boston) v. Cravath (NY) v. Selendy Gay (NY) v. Susman Godfrey (NY)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 15, at 11:35:28 am   in: Legal Employment
There's no reason to pick Selendy or Sullivan and Cromwell as the least prestigious firms by far on this list Is there really a meaningful difference between S&C and Cravath? I'm a bit worried about Cravath's hours, but is it really much worse than that of S&C? Would Cravath's rotation system not helpful if I want to work 2-3 years before a clerkship? There isn't. This forum has a few anons lurki...
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Re: Let's Talk 4th Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 15, at 8:04:21 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Anyone have info on Rushing? How she is as a boss, her hiring preferences, etc.? Thanks!
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Re: Question about a district court clerkship after appellate  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 15, at 2:04:32 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562710 time=1747288727 user_id=45852]
You seem to chase prestige for the sake of it…define what you want to do first before chasing after an SDNY clerkship.
[/quote]

Fair although I'm wondering to what extent that prestige (if there is one) is going to matter in my career. If not, I won't do it.
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Re: Which partners at your firms are notoriously terrible to work for?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 15, at 1:45:52 am   in: Legal Employment
Not the same guy. The one you're talking about was at DLA before going to GDC and now joining a small boutique. DLA has another lawdad type who's obnoxious on LinkedIn. Is it Matt Schwartz? If so, I agree with the above - any BigLaw partner that posts THAT frequently on LinkedIn must have an issue or two... Some of his finest work: - https://imgur.com/WbK3RpB - https://www.reddit.com/r/biglaw/com...
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Re: Let's talk 2nd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 14, at 8:03:32 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Eunice Lee, and to a lesser degree, Myrna Perez. Myrna was well known as the worst bully at the Brennan Center. She had a talent for cruelty toward women especially. She would tear them down for sport to make herself feel better with her own insecurities. She likely had BPD and tried to control her team’s whole lives in an all encompassing, narcissistic, and violating way. Enough people on this t...
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Re: Question about a district court clerkship after appellate  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 14, at 7:58:47 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
You seem to chase prestige for the sake of it…define what you want to do first before chasing after an SDNY clerkship.
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Re: Let's Talk 9th Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 14, at 3:22:46 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Miller cares little if anything about Fed Soc when hiring clerks. Has Miller fed any clerks to SCOTUS? I know he has become a very coveted clerkship and hires top HYSC students but was wondering whether he has or is expected to feed. Not sure if his alignment (too liberal for the conservative justices, too conservative for the liberal justices) hurts his chances. Miller hasn't fed to my knowledge...
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Re: Trump Judicial Nominees?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 14, at 3:18:04 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562664 time=1746936038 user_id=45852]
Any thoughts on who gets the nod for the 1st Circuit seat in Maine or the NJ and DE seats for the Third Circuit?
[/quote]

As I think others have mentioned, the far and away most obvious pick in Maine would be Patrick Strawbridge, one of the top partners at Consovoy McCarthy.
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Re: Possible to get a flyover D. Ct. clerkship with median grades from CCN?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 14, at 3:16:23 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Yes, though in flyover country, a lot of judges want very strong ties (i.e. growing up in or practicing in the same state). Random HLS median students will not ordinarily get D. Montana. Also agree that the Texas districts are not really flyover for this purpose except for maybe some of the judges in more obscure duty stations.
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Re: Let's talk 2nd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 14, at 3:12:56 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Eunice Lee, and to a lesser degree, Myrna Perez. Myrna was well known as the worst bully at the Brennan Center. She had a talent for cruelty toward women especially. She would tear them down for sport to make herself feel better with her own insecurities. She likely had BPD and tried to control her team’s whole lives in an all encompassing, narcissistic, and violating way. Enough people on this t...
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Question about a district court clerkship after appellate  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 14, at 3:11:16 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Want to gauge advice on here for something. I am about to return to my biglaw firm I summered at after clerking in a federal appellate court (and working there for a year). So I would return as a third year. I always thought people just clerk once, but having been exposed to other appellate clerks it feels like everyone is doing a district court clerkship sometime in the future (or in the past). I...
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Re: Bozeman?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 14, at 3:01:28 pm   in: Legal Employment
I am not even slightly local but have worked with Crowley Fleck, who have a Bozeman office, before.
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Re: Let's talk 2nd Circuit!  
  by: LawBurner1   on: May 14, at 11:53:07 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Eunice Lee, and to a lesser degree, Myrna Perez. Myrna was well known as the worst bully at the Brennan Center. She had a talent for cruelty toward women especially. She would tear them down for sport to make herself feel better with her own insecurities. She likely had BPD and tried to control her team’s whole lives in an all encompassing, narcissistic, and violating way. Enough people on this t...
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Re: Let's talk 2nd Circuit!  
  by: LawBurner1   on: May 14, at 11:49:41 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Does anyone know if the SDNY/EDNY/DCT/2C judges with available OSCAR postings consider off-plan applications on a rolling basis as they are submitted? or do they mostly wait until June to review both 2L and 3L/grad applications? thanks for any info! I am clerking for one of these judges and we're considering applications on a rolling basis, although unless we get a fantastic application we'll pro...
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Re: Possible to get a flyover D. Ct. clerkship with median grades from CCN?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 14, at 11:36:59 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562698 time=1747247073 user_id=45852]
Preferably in a D. Ct. in the Fifth Circuit. Will have a few years of V10 BigLaw lit experience.
[/quote]

Yes, particularly if the CCN is Chicago. You might have to get deep into flyover country, though. There are plenty of people who want to work in Texas and the triangle is not flyover country in any meaningful sense.



t.flyover district court clerk who has filtered applicants' resumes
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Re: S&C (NY) v. Wilmer Hale (Boston) v. Cravath (NY) v. Selendy Gay (NY) v. Susman Godfrey (NY)  
  by: cartmanbrah123   on: May 14, at 10:55:49 am   in: Legal Employment
There's no reason to pick Selendy or Sullivan and Cromwell as the least prestigious firms by far on this list Is there really a meaningful difference between S&C and Cravath? I'm a bit worried about Cravath's hours, but is it really much worse than that of S&C? Would Cravath's rotation system not helpful if I want to work 2-3 years before a clerkship? There isn't. This forum has a few anons lurki...
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Judges Who Hire 1Ls?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 14, at 10:17:40 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Which judges are known to hire 1Ls? I've heard Thapar, Newsom, Stras, and Richardson often hire very early. Any others? I assume most are FedSoc judges?
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Possible to get a flyover D. Ct. clerkship with median grades from CCN?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 14, at 8:24:33 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Preferably in a D. Ct. in the Fifth Circuit. Will have a few years of V10 BigLaw lit experience.
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Best tools for navigating law school and building a legal career?  
  by:   on: May 14, at 2:48:37 am   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
Hello everyone, I hope you're all doing well. I find myself a bit overwhelmed with the sheer number of tools and resources available to us as law students, especially when it comes to managing study schedules, preparing for exams, and even applying for internships or post-graduation positions. At the moment, I’m in my first year and starting to realise how important it is to have a solid system in...
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Re: Let's talk 2nd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 13, at 4:20:09 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Eunice Lee, and to a lesser degree, Myrna Perez. Myrna was well known as the worst bully at the Brennan Center. She had a talent for cruelty toward women especially. She would tear them down for sport to make herself feel better with her own insecurities. She likely had BPD and tried to control her team’s whole lives in an all encompassing, narcissistic, and violating way. Enough people on this t...
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Re: Let's talk 2nd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 13, at 4:13:53 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Eunice Lee, and to a lesser degree, Myrna Perez. Myrna was well known as the worst bully at the Brennan Center. She had a talent for cruelty toward women especially. She would tear them down for sport to make herself feel better with her own insecurities. She likely had BPD and tried to control her team’s whole lives in an all encompassing, narcissistic, and violating way. Enough people on this t...
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Re: Let's talk 2nd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 13, at 4:04:43 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Eunice Lee, and to a lesser degree, Myrna Perez. Myrna was well known as the worst bully at the Brennan Center. She had a talent for cruelty toward women especially. She would tear them down for sport to make herself feel better with her own insecurities. She likely had BPD and tried to control her team’s whole lives in an all encompassing, narcissistic, and violating way. Enough people on this t...
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Re: Let's talk 2nd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 13, at 2:35:39 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Eunice Lee, and to a lesser degree, Myrna Perez. Myrna was well known as the worst bully at the Brennan Center. She had a talent for cruelty toward women especially. She would tear them down for sport to make herself feel better with her own insecurities. She likely had BPD and tried to control her team’s whole lives in an all encompassing, narcissistic, and violating way. Enough people on this t...
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Re: DPW vs. GDC vs. Skadden vs. CSM for NYC Lit?  
  by: nmldelta99   on: May 13, at 2:22:10 pm   in: Legal Employment
If you want appellate I really don't think NYC is a good place to summer. I think Gibson Dunn has a little, but NYC is not the appellate place. If it is just general lit you want, DPW and CSM are good although as far as summer goes, they will all be identical, with the exception being that CSM makes their summers work more. OP here — definitely aware NYC is not the place for it, happen to be limi...
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Re: S&C (NY) v. Wilmer Hale (Boston) v. Cravath (NY) v. Selendy Gay (NY) v. Susman Godfrey (NY)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 13, at 1:23:37 pm   in: Legal Employment
There's no reason to pick Selendy or Sullivan and Cromwell as the least prestigious firms by far on this list Is there really a meaningful difference between S&C and Cravath? I'm a bit worried about Cravath's hours, but is it really much worse than that of S&C? Would Cravath's rotation system not helpful if I want to work 2-3 years before a clerkship? There isn't. This forum has a few anons lurki...
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Re: DPW vs. GDC vs. Skadden vs. CSM for NYC Lit?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 13, at 1:22:08 pm   in: Legal Employment
If you want appellate I really don't think NYC is a good place to summer. I think Gibson Dunn has a little, but NYC is not the appellate place. If it is just general lit you want, DPW and CSM are good although as far as summer goes, they will all be identical, with the exception being that CSM makes their summers work more.
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Re: DPW vs. GDC vs. Skadden vs. CSM for NYC Lit?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 13, at 12:10:50 pm   in: Legal Employment
I would put all but Skadden in the top category. Skadden is less selective and prestigious, plus they silo you into a narrow group (eg political law, mass torts) as a first year, so you may very well get shut out of white collar or antitrust. If you are hung up on appellate work, which is very tough to get into, GDC would be your best bet. CSM’s rotation system makes it a hit or miss
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Re: DPW vs. GDC vs. Skadden vs. CSM for NYC Lit?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 13, at 11:25:11 am   in: Legal Employment
GDC has appellate people in NYC. Skadden's appellate group is very small (under ten people) but there are one or two appellate associates who work out of the NYC office.
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Re: DPW vs. GDC vs. Skadden vs. CSM for NYC Lit?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 13, at 10:18:32 am   in: Legal Employment
Currently weighing up these options for next summer. Want a place with a strong presence across a variety of lit matters, with some specific interest in antitrust and appellate (to the extent that's possible to get your hands on in NY). Curious for people's understandings of the respective cultures as well. I'm already aware of some of the big differences (e.g., free market at GDC, rotation at CS...
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Re: DPW vs. GDC vs. Skadden vs. CSM for NYC Lit?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 13, at 10:17:20 am   in: Legal Employment
Just curious but why aren't we talking about Kaplan's new firm instead of Hecker Fink, which is just another good litigation boutique? The whole point of going there was to work with Roberta Kaplan (have fun)
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Re: Trump Judicial Nominees?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 13, at 9:02:43 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10562664 time=1746936038 user_id=45852]
Any thoughts on who gets the nod for the 1st Circuit seat in Maine or the NJ and DE seats for the Third Circuit?
[/quote]

The DE seat will likely be moved, FYI
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Re: DPW vs. GDC vs. Skadden vs. CSM for NYC Lit?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 13, at 5:50:42 am   in: Legal Employment
CSM has some top-tier antitrust lawyers but you cannot count on doing antitrust work due to the rotation system. Hecker Fink is basically a white collar boutique. I actually think GDC makes a ton of sense in your shoes even though it is nominally less "prestigious" than your other options.
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Re: DPW vs. GDC vs. Skadden vs. CSM for NYC Lit?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 13, at 5:06:08 am   in: Legal Employment
Currently weighing up these options for next summer. Want a place with a strong presence across a variety of lit matters, with some specific interest in antitrust and appellate (to the extent that's possible to get your hands on in NY). Curious for people's understandings of the respective cultures as well. I'm already aware of some of the big differences (e.g., free market at GDC, rotation at CS...
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Re: S&C (NY) v. Wilmer Hale (Boston) v. Cravath (NY) v. Selendy Gay (NY) v. Susman Godfrey (NY)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 13, at 5:01:00 am   in: Legal Employment
There's no reason to pick Selendy or Sullivan and Cromwell as the least prestigious firms by far on this list Is there really a meaningful difference between S&C and Cravath? I'm a bit worried about Cravath's hours, but is it really much worse than that of S&C? Would Cravath's rotation system not helpful if I want to work 2-3 years before a clerkship? I think Cravath's hours are worse than S&C, b...
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Re: S&C (NY) v. Wilmer Hale (Boston) v. Cravath (NY) v. Selendy Gay (NY) v. Susman Godfrey (NY)  
  by: cartmanbrah123   on: May 13, at 4:10:49 am   in: Legal Employment
Susman only takes people who previously clerked. Appellate work is tough to get into. I would pick one of the regular shops you listed - be it S&C, Wilmer, Cravath, or Selendy. Keep your grades up in 2L and apply broadly, and see what happens with clerkships. No firm will give you a material advantage in clerkship applications. Agree with this. I summered at Susman and am currently a COA clerk an...
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Re: S&C (NY) v. Wilmer Hale (Boston) v. Cravath (NY) v. Selendy Gay (NY) v. Susman Godfrey (NY)  
  by: cartmanbrah123   on: May 13, at 4:04:41 am   in: Legal Employment
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There's no reason to pick Selendy or Sullivan and Cromwell as the least prestigious firms by far on this list
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Is there really a meaningful difference between S&C and Cravath? I'm a bit worried about Cravath's hours, but is it really much worse than that of S&C? Would Cravath's rotation system not helpful if I want to work 2-3 years before a clerkship?
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Re: Let's talk 2nd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 13, at 2:11:46 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Eunice Lee, and to a lesser degree, Myrna Perez. Myrna was well known as the worst bully at the Brennan Center. She had a talent for cruelty toward women especially. She would tear them down for sport to make herself feel better with her own insecurities. She likely had BPD and tried to control her team’s whole lives in an all encompassing, narcissistic, and violating way. Enough people on this t...
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Re: Let's talk 2nd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 12, at 6:57:27 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Eunice Lee, and to a lesser degree, Myrna Perez. Myrna was well known as the worst bully at the Brennan Center. She had a talent for cruelty toward women especially. She would tear them down for sport to make herself feel better with her own insecurities. She likely had BPD and tried to control her team’s whole lives in an all encompassing, narcissistic, and violating way. Enough people on this t...
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=206410

Re: S&C (NY) v. Wilmer Hale (Boston) v. Cravath (NY) v. Selendy Gay (NY) v. Susman Godfrey (NY)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 12, at 5:54:58 pm   in: Legal Employment
There's no reason to pick Selendy or Sullivan and Cromwell as the least prestigious firms by far on this list
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=315779

Re: S&C (NY) v. Wilmer Hale (Boston) v. Cravath (NY) v. Selendy Gay (NY) v. Susman Godfrey (NY)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 12, at 5:53:57 pm   in: Legal Employment
There's no reason to pick Selendy or Sullivan and Cromwell as the least prestigious firms by far on this list
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Re: Let's Talk 9th Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 12, at 10:05:30 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
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Miller cares little if anything about Fed Soc when hiring clerks.
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Has Miller fed any clerks to SCOTUS? I know he has become a very coveted clerkship and hires top HYSC students but was wondering whether he has or is expected to feed. Not sure if his alignment (too liberal for the conservative justices, too conservative for the liberal justices) hurts his chances.
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Re: Clerkship bonus update  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 12, at 4:23:33 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
As of 2024 K&E was 50/75. Not sure if since updated. I couldn't get Kirkland to budge from 75 for DCt and COA, although there are a lot of anecdotes out there of ad hoc negotiations up to 150. Word was that a Chancery clerk got them to match 125 but can't personally verify. Doubt they'd do that for run of the mill DCt/COA. Can confirm that a friend had a COA clerkship, but nothing particularly am...
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Re: S&C (NY) v. Wilmer Hale (Boston) v. Cravath (NY) v. Selendy Gay (NY) v. Susman Godfrey (NY)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 12, at 4:20:08 am   in: Legal Employment
Susman only takes people who previously clerked. Appellate work is tough to get into. I would pick one of the regular shops you listed - be it S&C, Wilmer, Cravath, or Selendy. Keep your grades up in 2L and apply broadly, and see what happens with clerkships. No firm will give you a material advantage in clerkship applications. Agree with this. I summered at Susman and am currently a COA clerk an...
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=315779

DPW vs. GDC vs. Skadden vs. CSM for NYC Lit?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 12, at 3:57:09 am   in: Legal Employment
Currently weighing up these options for next summer. Want a place with a strong presence across a variety of lit matters, with some specific interest in antitrust and appellate (to the extent that's possible to get your hands on in NY). Curious for people's understandings of the respective cultures as well. I'm already aware of some of the big differences (e.g., free market at GDC, rotation at CSM...
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=315792

Bozeman?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 12, at 3:52:02 am   in: Legal Employment
So my girlfriend just got an incredible job offer in Bozeman, Montana, and we'll be moving in together there after I finish my clerkships (district + COA, neither in Montana/the Ninth). I'm trying to figure out what options there are--obviously nothing's local and the USAO doesn't have an office in Bozeman, so I'm probably restricted to remote roles. Besides Quinn (which I'm skittish about), are t...
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Re: Let's talk 2nd Circuit!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: May 12, at 3:01:42 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Eunice Lee, and to a lesser degree, Myrna Perez. Myrna was well known as the worst bully at the Brennan Center. She had a talent for cruelty toward women especially. She would tear them down for sport to make herself feel better with her own insecurities. She likely had BPD and tried to control her team’s whole lives in an all encompassing, narcissistic, and violating way. Enough people on this t...
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=206410

Re: Exit options from State Supreme Court Clerkship  
  by: Updog1234   on: May 11, at 11:42:02 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
I am clerking on an East Coast SSC and then for a COA judge in the same state. My school is sub T-30. After the clerkships I'm doing normal BigLaw lit. I think getting my COA clerkship was a small miracle and was certainly the result of networking and lots of luck. But it's probably worth shooting your shot, especially with judges in the state who might know your SSC judge. The advice I got (prio...
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