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Re: Working in state/local government in NYC  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 21, at 2:31:40 pm   in: Legal Employment
This is great to hear! Do you have any advice on whether I need experience (e.g. at a firm) before applying to a city job after my clerkship? Or are there opportunities for recent grads? There are definitely entry level positions. I’ve hired 2 straight out of law school attorneys during my time here. And your clerkship will be treated as one year experience when it comes to starting salary. Which...
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Re: How to find out if a firm is currently WFH?  
  by: unsightlysalt   on: October 21, at 2:31:21 pm   in: Legal Employment
[quote=RaceJudicata post_id=10444360 time=1603325518 user_id=141165]
Even if they are currently remote, they’ll likely be going into the office in foreseeable future... do you plan on eventually moving? Also are you barred in that state?
[/quote]

Yes on moving. Not barred yet, but they are open to applicants willing to take the exam.
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Re: Working in state/local government in NYC  
  by: istan   on: October 21, at 2:21:18 pm   in: Legal Employment
I work for the City in an agency’s counsels office (but I work closely with the Law Dept as well). There is a hiring freeze but agencies are still hiring to backfill vacancies. I have really enjoyed my time here. I hated Big Law. Not for the hours but the billing process and the culture. Comparatively, the lifestyle at city gvmt is great, and there are a lot of good benefits too. There’s still a ...
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Re: Working in state/local government in NYC  
  by: istan   on: October 21, at 2:17:28 pm   in: Legal Employment
While you may not be interested in big law, you should still apply to big law positions in NYC. Even a year or 2 at Big law will give you a nice salary and a lot of government jobs want prior experience which you may satisfy with your clerkship, but I would also seek out big law. Yeah, but it's more than a lack of interest in the work big firms do (though that is part of it, and I would much rath...
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Re: Working in state/local government in NYC  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 21, at 2:15:17 pm   in: Legal Employment
I work for the City in an agency’s counsels office (but I work closely with the Law Dept as well). There is a hiring freeze but agencies are still hiring to backfill vacancies. I have really enjoyed my time here. I hated Big Law. Not for the hours but the billing process and the culture. Comparatively, the lifestyle at city gvmt is great, and there are a lot of good benefits too. There’s still a p...
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Re: How to find out if a firm is currently WFH?  
  by: RaceJudicata   on: October 21, at 2:11:58 pm   in: Legal Employment
Even if they are currently remote, they’ll likely be going into the office in foreseeable future... do you plan on eventually moving? Also are you barred in that state?
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Re: Working in state/local government in NYC  
  by: nixy   on: October 21, at 2:05:47 pm   in: Legal Employment
I can’t give a lot of specific advice, but it seems to me that trying to jump both to public service and to an entirely different market is going to be a bit of an issue. It makes sense for biglaw people to want to be in NYC as it’s the center of that universe, but I don’t think you can say the same for city/local government, so you may have to have a more compelling explanation. In the smaller s...
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Best practices for working with administrative staff at law firms  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 21, at 1:37:53 pm   in: Legal Employment
Like thousands of recent law grads, I'm starting my biglaw job next week. And like many other grads, it'll be the first time I have the opportunity to work with paralegals, legal secretaries, and other administrative professionals. Frankly, I don't know what is/is not appropriate to delegate to a staff member, or how to get help freeing up my time without being disrespectful or seeming bossy. Any ...
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Re: DHS Honors Attorney Program 2020/2021  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 21, at 1:32:15 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Had ICE OPLA initial interview on 10/7. No update from them yet. Just got email this evening to set up DHS initial interview next week.
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Re: Fall bonuses  
  by: 12YrsAnAssociate   on: October 21, at 1:16:02 pm   in: Legal Employment
I think a big question is what are the lower tier biglaw firms going to do if Cravath just announces bonuses that are an approximation of their last year's bonuses added to the DPW summer bonus? Is a Perkins Coie-level firm that normally matches Cravath for annual bonuses going to peel off the DPW part and just pay what they did last year? Pay whatever Cravath pays? Something else? I could see som...
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Re: Working in state/local government in NYC  
  by: Pomeranian   on: October 21, at 1:05:47 pm   in: Legal Employment
Anecdotally, NYC's government has a blanket hiring freeze right now due to the budget shortfall caused by COVID-19. Congress is debating state and local funding in the next stimulus bill, so this may change things, but who knows?

In addition to the Law Department, you can also look at the various city agencies, many of which have their own legal departments.
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Re: Dual Monitors or Ultrawide  
  by: ZVBXRPL   on: October 21, at 1:05:04 pm   in: Legal Employment
[quote=purplegoldtornado post_id=10444289 time=1603256040 user_id=190426]
Here is my setup: https://ibb.co/2n5x0qz.
[/quote]

super cool
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Re: Dual Monitors or Ultrawide  
  by: notinbiglaw   on: October 21, at 12:58:46 pm   in: Legal Employment
If you snap windows at all in Windows, know Windows only knows to take up full/half/quarter of the screen and really don't have any option to, for example, take up middle 1/3 of the screen.



Put differently, Windows still hasn't implemented a lot of UI conveniences designed for ultrawides.



You might not care though if you run Macs.
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Re: Fall bonuses  
  by: kobe1020   on: October 21, at 12:40:39 pm   in: Legal Employment
So akin have announced fall bonuses I'm shocked. I always thought they were an ardent market follower. Good for Akin associates. Hopefully Cravath announces annual bonuses in the next week or two, and includes this DPW bonus on top of their annual bonus. Fall bonuses are market now. It's just a question of whether you pay them now or at year's end. The real question is, if Cravath is going to set...
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Re: Military Law  
  by: howell   on: October 21, at 12:08:51 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
AF JAG here (anon because I'm punching out in 2021). I'm planning on transferring to the ANG or Reserves after 6+ years on active duty. My question is regarding transferring my GI Bill benefits to a dependent (I have received the "you are eligible to transfer" email). Have any ANG/Reservists here successfully transferred their GI Bill by doing the six years on active duty BUT signing up for the a...
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Salary inquiry  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 21, at 11:44:33 am   in: Legal Employment
Howdy all, Just got an offer from a firm (lets call it firmW) in a small southern market - think Louisville/NOLA/ LR/Mem/Bham/Richmond- with a pretty decent sized firm, top 3 size wise in the market. They offered me 80. I'm ecstatic I got the offer and it is the firm I really want to be with. I also received another offer in a different market with higher pay; however, it is not in the city I want...
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Re: Fall bonuses  
  by: cornerstone   on: October 21, at 11:44:02 am   in: Legal Employment
[quote=12YrsAnAssociate post_id=10444324 time=1603305179 user_id=209774]
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10444317 time=1603300356 user_id=45852]
So akin have announced fall bonuses
[/quote]

I'm shocked. I always thought they were an ardent market follower. Good for Akin associates. Hopefully Cravath announces annual bonuses in the next week or two, and includes this DPW bonus on top of their annual bonus.
[/quote]
Fall bonuses [b][i]are[/i][/b] market now. It's just a question of whether you pay them now or at year's end.
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Re: LR Positions Judges Care About  
  by: Iowahawk   on: October 21, at 11:36:44 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Generally, only LR EICs get a bump (both because of the title, and because law schools often expend a lot of resources to make sure the EIC gets a good clerkship) . But judges will also look favorably on other positions, particularly the exec editors who are heavily involved in editing. Definitely not true. I know of several federal appellate judges who do care about law review experience (on the...
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Re: Working in state/local government in NYC  
  by: istan   on: October 21, at 11:33:39 am   in: Legal Employment
I can’t give a lot of specific advice, but it seems to me that trying to jump both to public service and to an entirely different market is going to be a bit of an issue. It makes sense for biglaw people to want to be in NYC as it’s the center of that universe, but I don’t think you can say the same for city/local government, so you may have to have a more compelling explanation. In the smaller s...
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Re: Working in state/local government in NYC  
  by: sparty99   on: October 21, at 11:29:49 am   in: Legal Employment
I’ve decided I’m not interested in biglaw and have been thinking about government jobs. I want to be in NYC, and I think local government jobs are a good option (obviously there are also federal jobs in NYC, but I like the idea of working for the city and I think local jobs might be more attainable and have better work-life balance). I don’t know much about these jobs or how to get one (they’re n...
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How to find out if a firm is currently WFH?  
  by: unsightlysalt   on: October 21, at 11:16:12 am   in: Legal Employment
A firm I have been eyeing in another state posted a position that fits my qualifications. Since it is in another state, I don't know if they are going into the office or not. Does it look bad to ask this question before applying?
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Re: Stressed that I might lose offer due to 3L Grades  
  by: jacketyellow   on: October 21, at 11:15:31 am   in: Legal Employment
Some law firms at the very tippy top of the Vault or Amlaw lists may rescind based on that. But most firms won't even care and won't even see your transcript.
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Re: LR Positions Judges Care About  
  by: namefromplace   on: October 21, at 10:53:31 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Generally, only LR EICs get a bump (both because of the title, and because law schools often expend a lot of resources to make sure the EIC gets a good clerkship) . But judges will also look favorably on other positions, particularly the exec editors who are heavily involved in editing. Definitely not true. I know of several federal appellate judges who do care about law review experience (on the...
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Re: LR Positions Judges Care About  
  by: Joachim2017   on: October 21, at 10:33:31 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Generally, only LR EICs get a bump (both because of the title, and because law schools often expend a lot of resources to make sure the EIC gets a good clerkship) . But judges will also look favorably on other positions, particularly the exec editors who are heavily involved in editing. Definitely not true. I know of several federal appellate judges who do care about law review experience (on the...
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Re: District Attorney's Offices 2021  
  by: hoyalawya21   on: October 21, at 10:28:08 am   in: Public Interest & Government
I've done the first two rounds of Queens interviews and have the third, executive interview next Friday, got the email on Sunday.
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Re: Dual Monitors or Ultrawide  
  by: Mr. Kister   on: October 21, at 10:16:43 am   in: Legal Employment
I strongly regret having gone with an ultra wide instead of dual monitors. The difference in ease of use is stark.
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Re: Working in state/local government in NYC  
  by: nixy   on: October 21, at 10:16:22 am   in: Legal Employment
I can’t give a lot of specific advice, but it seems to me that trying to jump both to public service and to an entirely different market is going to be a bit of an issue. It makes sense for biglaw people to want to be in NYC as it’s the center of that universe, but I don’t think you can say the same for city/local government, so you may have to have a more compelling explanation. In the smaller se...
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Re: LR Positions Judges Care About  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 21, at 10:07:36 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
I clerked for a judge who expressly looked for writing experience outside of law school/besides LR because their take was that at this point, almost anyone who wants to be on a journal can find one to accept them, and so it didn’t say much about the person’s writing ability. I think being EIC would have caught the judge’s eye, but their main interest was in writing ability and I don’t think EIC is...
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Re: Would you take this in-house offer?  
  by: Elston Gunn   on: October 21, at 10:01:37 am   in: Legal Employment
This sounds like a solid offer but I think equity grant and hours expectation are both important considerations too. Assuming equity is in line with market and it’s standard business hours, this sounds like a pretty great offer and comparable with standard comp packages from top companies. OP here. Thanks, the lack of equity is the one component giving me pause. The position is with a subsidiary ...
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Re: 3.1/179 SUPER splitter  
  by: crazywafflez   on: October 21, at 10:01:03 am   in: What are my chances?
I think you'll have to make the addendum call- I think if those things are behind, I'd write about it and say how it really hindered you and you faced a lot of challenges but now that you are being treated you are ready to face life and its challenges in a whole new way. I think you'll be fine adding it, but totally fine not. It is really up to you. Your GPA is not good, however, your LSAT is rock...
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Re: LR Positions Judges Care About  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 21, at 9:51:26 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Our T14's clerkship office strongly encouraged students on LR to run for board because many judges look for it or see it as a plus, but the only position that will get you a clerkship that otherwise wouldn't really be in your league is probably EIC. At our law school, the EIC in my year was not in the top 25% but got reasonably prestigious (though definitely not feeder) district and circuit court ...
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Re: 2021-2022 Clerkship Application Thread  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 21, at 9:42:12 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Does anyone know, of the circuit judges with available positions still posted for 2021-2022, which ones are actually still hiring? I assume Flaum, Baldock, and Rawlinson are all still hiring/haven't started. Word on the street is Flaum has not started hiring and has no immediate plans to until he can do in-person interviews. Not sure how long he'll hold to his guns on that, as it seems doubtful t...
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 21, at 9:27:38 am   in: Public Interest & Government
I was rejected from Air Force JAG. Any tips on how to improve/when to reapply/what to do? Read through this thread. Your question has likely been asked and answered several times. But to answer your question (and not be a total knob), I'll tell you what I learned from talking to people before I interviewed and got selected. The SJA interview is by far the most important part. Show up early. Look ...
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Working in state/local government in NYC  
  by: istan   on: October 21, at 9:11:12 am   in: Legal Employment
I’ve decided I’m not interested in biglaw and have been thinking about government jobs. I want to be in NYC, and I think local government jobs are a good option (obviously there are also federal jobs in NYC, but I like the idea of working for the city and I think local jobs might be more attainable and have better work-life balance). I don’t know much about these jobs or how to get one (they’re no...
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Re: Best Firms for Practicing Tax in Dallas/Houston  
  by: nealric   on: October 21, at 9:01:58 am   in: Legal Employment
The hottest tax controversy areas for the next decade will involve micro captive insurance companies and syndicated conservation easements - much smaller dollar amounts at stake but lots and lots of volume. These cases seem to go to smaller boutique-type shops (primarily out of Atlanta) Can you go into more detail? How does one learn about this stuff? Personally, I'm not sure I'd want to make a c...
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Re: LR Positions Judges Care About  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 21, at 9:01:40 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
The DJ I clerked for not only didn't care about LR, he likely had no idea what any position was other than EIC. (I know this is not standard for judges, but it's one data point.)
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Re: Honors Attorney Program 2020-2021 (non-DOJ)  
  by: AMcJV12   on: October 21, at 8:55:03 am   in: Public Interest & Government
Applied last week to NLRB Board and GC programs (in DC). Figured I'd start a thread here if anyone starts hearing anything! +1 on wanting hear about NLRB Board and GC! I've heard mixed messages about interview requests--someone I know got an initial interview almost right away last year and was asked to send over writing samples/supplemental material soon after, but then still didn't hear anythin...
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Re: DHS Honors Attorney Program 2020/2021  
  by: sek315   on: October 21, at 8:51:43 am   in: Public Interest & Government
Does anyone know how many people DHS is aiming to hire?
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Re: Best Firms for Practicing Tax in Dallas/Houston  
  by: cisscum   on: October 21, at 8:35:45 am   in: Legal Employment
The hottest tax controversy areas for the next decade will involve micro captive insurance companies and syndicated conservation easements - much smaller dollar amounts at stake but lots and lots of volume. These cases seem to go to smaller boutique-type shops (primarily out of Atlanta) Can you go into more detail? How does one learn about this stuff? Personally, I'm not sure I'd want to make a c...
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Re: Fall bonuses  
  by: 12YrsAnAssociate   on: October 21, at 8:32:59 am   in: Legal Employment
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10444317 time=1603300356 user_id=45852]
So akin have announced fall bonuses
[/quote]

I'm shocked. I always thought they were an ardent market follower. Good for Akin associates. Hopefully Cravath announces annual bonuses in the next week or two, and includes this DPW bonus on top of their annual bonus.
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Re: Dual Monitors or Ultrawide  
  by: fujo   on: October 21, at 8:29:44 am   in: Legal Employment
Keep your firm's IT policy in mind if you're going to need 3P software or MS powertoys to manage the multiple windows on an ultrawide. You might not be allowed to install the software you need to use an ultrawide effectively.
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Re: Dual Monitors or Ultrawide  
  by: mwells_56   on: October 21, at 8:09:55 am   in: Legal Employment
In general, anybody looking for setup ideas should just head on over to reddit.com/r/battlestations and browse to your heart's content.
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Re: Would you take this in-house offer?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 21, at 8:02:14 am   in: Legal Employment
This sounds like a solid offer but I think equity grant and hours expectation are both important considerations too. Assuming equity is in line with market and it’s standard business hours, this sounds like a pretty great offer and comparable with standard comp packages from top companies. OP here. Thanks, the lack of equity is the one component giving me pause. The position is with a subsidiary ...
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Re: 3.1/179 SUPER splitter  
  by: silenttimer   on: October 21, at 7:57:58 am   in: What are my chances?
An addendum to explain your situation would be justified IMHO.
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Re: District Attorney's Offices 2021  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 21, at 7:51:58 am   in: Public Interest & Government
I interviewed with Queens (OCI), and I did not get an "under review" email.
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Re: Dual Monitors or Ultrawide  
  by: purplegoldtornado   on: October 21, at 7:17:05 am   in: Legal Employment
Here is my setup: https://ibb.co/2n5x0qz. Very nice setup. What keyboard? Also, love the microphone. Must make it so much easier to hear on Zoom. As a judicial law clerk I handled a lot of Zoom trials this past year and it was very hard to hear people with older computers. If everyone had a microphone Zoom would be so much better. What are your thoughts on adding some lights for Zoom calls? I'd t...
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Re: Fall bonuses  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 21, at 7:12:36 am   in: Legal Employment
So akin have announced fall bonuses
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Bar Exam TN  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 21, at 6:54:21 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Hey all, Question about bar exam prep. Firm wants me to start beginning of June. I would take the bar end of July. Should I take a month off before hand to study? I was thinking of studying part time from end of May-end of June. And then full time for all of July. Would I be able to take a course like this (Barbri or any equivalent)? Is this recommended? Or should I ask my firm if I could start in...
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Re: Degree vs cumulative GPA  
  by: nixy   on: October 21, at 6:48:29 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Cumulative.
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Re: Dual Monitors or Ultrawide  
  by: HarrisonK   on: October 21, at 6:40:11 am   in: Legal Employment
Here is my setup: https://ibb.co/2n5x0qz. Very nice setup. What keyboard? Also, love the microphone. Must make it so much easier to hear on Zoom. As a judicial law clerk I handled a lot of Zoom trials this past year and it was very hard to hear people with older computers. If everyone had a microphone Zoom would be so much better. What are your thoughts on adding some lights for Zoom calls? I'd t...
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Re: Firm reimbursement for cell service  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 21, at 6:30:16 am   in: Legal Employment
My firm only gives $40 for phone use. But it also gives $40 for device, which is essentially a free phone on most services. We just get an $80 reimbursement at the end of the month, so I guess in theory the entire amount can be put towards your phone bill.
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Re: Stressed that I might lose offer due to 3L Grades  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 21, at 6:15:44 am   in: Legal Employment
Had a friend at a T25 outright fail--as in, actually got an F--and retook to get a C+. She didn't lose her offer at a V30; the firm only cared that she graduated on time.
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Re: 2021-2022 Clerkship Application Thread  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 21, at 6:15:16 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10444148 time=1603125417 user_id=45852]
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10442752 time=1601530248 user_id=45852]
Any speculation on when more COA judges will post on OSCAR, for this year or beyond? The only recent one I'm seeing is from the therapist.
[/quote]

Who is the therapist?
[/quote]

Dr. Richard Nygard (Judge Richard Nygaard)
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Re: LR Positions Judges Care About  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 21, at 6:09:41 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Generally, only LR EICs get a bump (both because of the title, and because law schools often expend a lot of resources to make sure the EIC gets a good clerkship) . But judges will also look favorably on other positions, particularly the exec editors who are heavily involved in editing.
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=307433

Re: Just Landed a Media In-House Role in LA; NYC Corporate Lawyer; AMA  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 21, at 6:06:35 am   in: Legal Employment
Do you know of any patent litigators who have gone in-house at, well, any kind of business? If so, could you share any details? Some of the people at the company I’ll be joining are former patent litigators (and now doing a mix of general IP work/IP portfolio management, licensing agreements and anything else that comes up). My sample size of examples isn’t huge but it seemed like it’d be easier ...
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Degree vs cumulative GPA  
  by: mandrewsf   on: October 21, at 5:59:38 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Background: I transferred from my original undergraduate school to another school after my freshman year in college, and as a result I have two GPAs on my LSAC academic summary: a cumulative GPA, and a degree (summary) GPA. They're two different numbers for me.



Does anyone know which GPA law schools care more about/report to the ABA?
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LR Positions Judges Care About  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 21, at 5:50:22 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
How much to judges care about Law Review officer positions? Do only EIC's get boosts, or do Managing Editors, Exec. Editors, Articles Editors, etc. (i.e., how far down does it go?)
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Re: Dual Monitors or Ultrawide  
  by: notinbiglaw   on: October 21, at 5:45:29 am   in: Legal Employment
Yeah.. don’t understand why you can’t center a document. Just move second monitor to side and center the main monitor.
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3.1/179 SUPER splitter  
  by: grrren   on: October 21, at 5:32:49 am   in: What are my chances?
hi. stats say it all. 3.1 with 179 lsat. i’m coming off of a fine arts major and i did terrible, i was a train wreck in college, but am gifted logically and want a reliable career. the reason i had trouble was that i had severe mental health issues, episodes of psychosis, was admitted to the hospital and diagnosed manic bipolar, put on meds and have recovered and become well adjusted ever since. s...
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Re: Dual Monitors or Ultrawide  
  by: mwells_56   on: October 21, at 5:26:50 am   in: Legal Employment
To those saying that they like having the document centered and therefor go ultrawide, I have a counterpoint solution for dual monitors. I have a 27" and an 24.5" inch, and I keep the larger monitor straight ahead with the smaller one flanking it to the right. A lot of people tend to go for the symmetry of having the bezel in the middle of the desk, but I find that pushing it off to the side is mu...
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Re: Honors Attorney Program 2020-2021 (non-DOJ)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 21, at 4:49:55 am   in: Public Interest & Government
Anyone know anything about FTC Enforcement? When they plan to make offers?
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Re: Firm reimbursement for cell service  
  by: lawdude31   on: October 21, at 4:45:25 am   in: Legal Employment
[quote=gasfard post_id=10444283 time=1603246428 user_id=168087]
[quote=lawdude31 post_id=10444259 time=1603235566 user_id=157849]
Kirkland is giving new associates iPhone 11's (Pro), not even an iPhone 12...
[/quote]

isn't that because iphone 12 has yet to ship? and the associates gotta get their phones before then
[/quote]
Yes, sorry if the tone was off, I was kidding.
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Re: Vandy Early Decision App  
  by: ALCA1920   on: October 21, at 4:36:02 am   in: What are my chances?
I believe MyLSN has an option where you can include ED into the equation. Also look at lawschooldata.org. I remember reading a thread where someone asked about EDing to a school that guaranteed a half-tuition scholarship (I think it was USC), and the ED pool was said to be more competitive as a result, which lowered everyone's chances at getting in ED. But no one really knows aside from the admiss...
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Re: Honors Attorney Program 2020-2021 (non-DOJ)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 21, at 3:59:47 am   in: Public Interest & Government
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10444224 time=1603215326 user_id=45852]
I just wrapped up my second round DOT interviews. They said they aim to make decisions by Thanksgiving, but more realistically it will be around Christmas.
[/quote]

Thanks for sharing the timeline, my interviewers were not as forthcoming
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Re: Dual Monitors or Ultrawide  
  by: Ultramar vistas   on: October 21, at 3:44:59 am   in: Legal Employment
Have another vote for ultra wide. I legitimately find it hard to work on the office dual monitors after 7 months of non-stop ultra wide at home, it’s just so clearly superior. Really like being able to center a document and I like going into thirds more naturally. I have 3 active docs way more often than I do 4. I have a laptop riser and keep my laptop permanently open on outlook, and for me that’...
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Re: Best Firms for Practicing Tax in Dallas/Houston  
  by: nealric   on: October 21, at 3:34:45 am   in: Legal Employment
The hottest tax controversy areas for the next decade will involve micro captive insurance companies and syndicated conservation easements - much smaller dollar amounts at stake but lots and lots of volume. These cases seem to go to smaller boutique-type shops (primarily out of Atlanta) Can you go into more detail? How does one learn about this stuff? Personally, I'm not sure I'd want to make a c...
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Re: Dual Monitors or Ultrawide  
  by: notinbiglaw   on: October 21, at 3:15:17 am   in: Legal Employment
49 sounds great in theory but I'd highly suggest two bezel-less 27s. It just makes for better multitasking and most apps/websites are not optimized for a 49 inch screen so you'll have to use third party apps to multitask efficiently and live with lots of empty space and black bars when you want to fullscreen. This. Get a third one to run in portrait too. Get the 27”s in 1440p and the portrait one...
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Re: NY Third Department Admissions  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 21, at 1:53:56 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Does anyone know what the difference is between affidavit form and in the form of an affirmation made under penalty of perjury? Specifically with regard to paragraph 5 of the April 27 joint statement from the court:



https://www.nybarexam.org/Docs/Joint%20StatementExecuted.pdf



Thanks!!
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Re: Honors Attorney Program 2020-2021 (non-DOJ)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 21, at 12:57:39 am   in: Public Interest & Government
I just got an email saying my IRS job status changed and when I look at the USA jobs page nothing is different but once I go on the treasury page there is a comment next to the application that says "referred." Otherwise, haven't heard much else from the IRS.
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Re: Just Landed a Media In-House Role in LA; NYC Corporate Lawyer; AMA  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 10:27:53 pm   in: Legal Employment
How do these entertainment companies or studio legal teams operate? I’ve heard stories of people who do work in house that was not their practice area in big law. Do you have flexibility to explore within the legal or business affairs department (provided you have the requisite experience)?
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Re: NY Third Department Admissions  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 9:03:58 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
When you receive the automated email from the Office of Attorney Admissions that your application has been received it says the following in the subject line "Application Received - New York State Appellate Division Third Department, Admissions Office - [five digit number]". Does anybody know what the five digit number stands for? Is it your qeue number?
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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 8:26:14 pm   in: Legal Employment
SF firms, including Hogan, BSF, Goodwin, are moving with respect to litigation/L&E. My friend received an offer from one of them recently. BSF is looking for someone to start immediately in general lit. and is surprisingly undemanding with respect to school/rank.
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Re: Dual Monitors or Ultrawide  
  by: champloo   on: October 20, at 8:17:18 pm   in: Legal Employment
[quote=dabigchina post_id=10444276 time=1603240779 user_id=121762]
if you ever need to share screens on zoom, etc, I would stay away from ultrawides. I've gotten negative feedback from my friends who have ultrawides on this.
[/quote]

Sharing only the document/app being reviewed gets rid of this problem for me. Also stongly recommend ultrawide over 2 screens. You can also get a 34 ultrawide and a 27 and get best of both worlds.
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Re: Stressed that I might lose offer due to 3L Grades  
  by: goldenflash19   on: October 20, at 8:00:03 pm   in: Legal Employment
Unless your firm is an outlier, they would care even during a normal year. It is especially likely that no one is going to care now when your grade is based on one exam after a semester of Zoom classes.
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Re: Dual Monitors or Ultrawide  
  by: purplegoldtornado   on: October 20, at 6:54:00 pm   in: Legal Employment
Here is my setup: https://ibb.co/2n5x0qz.
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Re: Dual Monitors or Ultrawide  
  by: dabigchina   on: October 20, at 6:06:48 pm   in: Legal Employment
[quote=byrdscales post_id=10444278 time=1603241506 user_id=165995]
My experience doing zoom screen shares with an ultrawide has just involved asking the participants if I need to zoom in more to make text legible. Usually pretty trivial to resolve, thoug I also share windows, not my full screen.
[/quote]

fair, i use dual monitors myself because it's cheaper so i don't really know. I just know that people who have it complain about it.
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Re: Dual Monitors or Ultrawide  
  by: TigerIsBack   on: October 20, at 5:38:07 pm   in: Legal Employment
I have a 48" monitor that's close to top of the line I think, paid like $800 for it. I splurged as a blue-eyed/bushy tailed first year thinking I'd be working all day every weekend and looking to do something fun with the first paycheck. A few years later, I do feel like I'm working all day every weekend, but the monitor is incredible. Especially if you take a break to watch youtube or whatever wi...
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Re: Stressed that I might lose offer due to 3L Grades  
  by: nixy   on: October 20, at 5:18:41 pm   in: Legal Employment
How do you manage a C outside of extraordinary circumstances? I thought you had to actively not do anything to get a C at a good law school. Making the mistake of taking a combo Biglaw lit/BigGov gunner class filled with 1Ls during a recession as a 3L is the extraordinary circumstance i think Depending where the OP goes to school, this may not be be the case. My school required all students to ta...
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Re: Honors Attorney Program 2020-2021 (non-DOJ)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 4:41:25 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Can you let me know how the DHS interview went and if it was similar to NSA's screener? I'm especially curious to hear how a no-ICE interview goes--if they ask about national security/technology/etc. experience/interest versus a general interest in the rotations. I had my screener for NSA just last week. My interviewer told me they meet in 2 weeks to discuss next round interviews with GC and deput...
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Re: Firm reimbursement for cell service  
  by: gasfard   on: October 20, at 4:13:48 pm   in: Legal Employment
[quote=lawdude31 post_id=10444259 time=1603235566 user_id=157849]
Kirkland is giving new associates iPhone 11's (Pro), not even an iPhone 12...
[/quote]

isn't that because iphone 12 has yet to ship? and the associates gotta get their phones before then
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Re: Stressed that I might lose offer due to 3L Grades  
  by: gasfard   on: October 20, at 4:12:35 pm   in: Legal Employment
Had a couple of C+ in my 3L and still here at my V25, don't worry
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Re: Dual Monitors or Ultrawide  
  by: purplegoldtornado   on: October 20, at 3:54:41 pm   in: Legal Employment
49 sounds great in theory but I'd highly suggest two bezel-less 27s. It just makes for better multitasking and most apps/websites are not optimized for a 49 inch screen so you'll have to use third party apps to multitask efficiently and live with lots of empty space and black bars when you want to fullscreen. This 100%. You want two separate monitors for the exact reason above. Also — get curved ...
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Re: Stressed that I might lose offer due to 3L Grades  
  by: Dahl   on: October 20, at 3:19:13 pm   in: Legal Employment
Unless the firm is looking for an excuse to not bring you on, no one will care at all. Don’t stress. You’ll send your final transcript to the HR/recruiter. No one else is going to see it.
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Re: Stressed that I might lose offer due to 3L Grades  
  by: bwh8813   on: October 20, at 3:17:51 pm   in: Legal Employment
Also, unless your evidence class has a series of graded assignments over the course of the semester that all count, you can't know what grade you're going to get yet (if you do have such assignments, ignore me, but that's not very common). This was my thought as well. If it's that you're not getting the material the way it's being taught, just get a supplement and study based off that. My Propert...
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Re: Dual Monitors or Ultrawide  
  by: byrdscales   on: October 20, at 2:51:46 pm   in: Legal Employment
My experience doing zoom screen shares with an ultrawide has just involved asking the participants if I need to zoom in more to make text legible. Usually pretty trivial to resolve, thoug I also share windows, not my full screen.
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Re: Stressed that I might lose offer due to 3L Grades  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 2:47:09 pm   in: Legal Employment
How do you manage a C outside of extraordinary circumstances? I thought you had to actively not do anything to get a C at a good law school. Making the mistake of taking a combo Biglaw lit/BigGov gunner class filled with 1Ls during a recession as a 3L is the extraordinary circumstance i think Yup. Filled with 2L gunners. I'm one of a handful of 3Ls, and it was a huge mistake. Did your firm say an...
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Re: Dual Monitors or Ultrawide  
  by: dabigchina   on: October 20, at 2:39:39 pm   in: Legal Employment
if you ever need to share screens on zoom, etc, I would stay away from ultrawides. I've gotten negative feedback from my friends who have ultrawides on this.
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Re: Stressed that I might lose offer due to 3L Grades  
  by: Definitely Not North   on: October 20, at 2:38:41 pm   in: Legal Employment
Also I did the same thing with Crim Pro during 3L spring like an idiot and got a C+. My biglaw offer did not get rescinded
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Re: Stressed that I might lose offer due to 3L Grades  
  by: Definitely Not North   on: October 20, at 2:37:14 pm   in: Legal Employment
[quote=blair.waldorf post_id=10444270 time=1603239836 user_id=167829]
How do you manage a C outside of extraordinary circumstances? I thought you had to actively not do anything to get a C at a good law school.
[/quote]

Making the mistake of taking a combo Biglaw lit/BigGov gunner class filled with 1Ls during a recession as a 3L is the extraordinary circumstance i think
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Re: Best Firms for Practicing Tax in Dallas/Houston  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 2:34:00 pm   in: Legal Employment
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10444241 time=1603225995 user_id=45852]
The hottest tax controversy areas for the next decade will involve micro captive insurance companies and syndicated conservation easements - much smaller dollar amounts at stake but lots and lots of volume. These cases seem to go to smaller boutique-type shops (primarily out of Atlanta)
[/quote]

Can you go into more detail? How does one learn about this stuff?
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Re: Stressed that I might lose offer due to 3L Grades  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 2:29:39 pm   in: Legal Employment
[quote=blair.waldorf post_id=10444270 time=1603239836 user_id=167829]
How do you manage a C outside of extraordinary circumstances? I thought you had to actively not do anything to get a C at a good law school.
[/quote]

Professor is a dick and has decided that he's not going to curve the class. This is at a T20.
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Re: Stressed that I might lose offer due to 3L Grades  
  by: blair.waldorf   on: October 20, at 2:23:56 pm   in: Legal Employment
How do you manage a C outside of extraordinary circumstances? I thought you had to actively not do anything to get a C at a good law school.
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Re: Stressed that I might lose offer due to 3L Grades  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 2:23:27 pm   in: Legal Employment
Also, unless your evidence class has a series of graded assignments over the course of the semester that all count, you can't know what grade you're going to get yet (if you do have such assignments, ignore me, but that's not very common). We have a midterm, participation points, and a final — the syllabus lists out the total available points for the course and specifies how many points everythin...
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Re: Dual Monitors or Ultrawide  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 2:16:41 pm   in: Legal Employment
Going to strongly disagree with everyone else and say go for the ultrawide. Used 2 monitor setups for years and thought it was ok, but switched to an ultrawide a couple years back and it's a big improvement. Even better if you can also have your laptop screen on, or an extra monitor to the side. I see a few major benefits with an ultrawide. First, being able to have a document directly in front of...
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Re: Stressed that I might lose offer due to 3L Grades  
  by: nixy   on: October 20, at 2:10:34 pm   in: Legal Employment
Also, unless your evidence class has a series of graded assignments over the course of the semester that all count, you can't know what grade you're going to get yet (if you do have such assignments, ignore me, but that's not very common).
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Re: Dual Monitors or Ultrawide  
  by: CovidLurker   on: October 20, at 2:04:50 pm   in: Legal Employment
Dual > Ultra wide. Being able to seamlessly throw up 4 docs side by side is handy for drafting. Also, having one monitor dedicated to email so you can keep track while they fly in and the other dedicated to actual work is much better than anything wide gives you. (yes - i know you can do all this on wide as well, but I find it easier on dual)
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Re: Best Firms for Practicing Tax in Dallas/Houston  
  by: wilmontwombat   on: October 20, at 2:03:32 pm   in: Legal Employment
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10444241 time=1603225995 user_id=45852]
The hottest tax controversy areas for the next decade will involve micro captive insurance companies and syndicated conservation easements - much smaller dollar amounts at stake but lots and lots of volume. These cases seem to go to smaller boutique-type shops (primarily out of Atlanta)
[/quote]
I'll put this on my radar. Thanks for the heads up!
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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 1:55:05 pm   in: Legal Employment
May or may not be in the vale as my summer gig was supposed to end with an offer in early September, but have since been told to hold tight and wait while the company works out some internal stuff. Been applying a little bit. One interview, still waiting to hear about a callback, but otherwise no bites. Exited the vale! Finally got the offer. I've also been getting a little action on interviews l...
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Re: Firm reimbursement for cell service  
  by: Whatislaw   on: October 20, at 1:54:34 pm   in: Legal Employment
Lol still beats the rest of us who are using our own phones and all upgrades are out of our own pockets.
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Re: Dual Monitors or Ultrawide  
  by: mwells_56   on: October 20, at 1:52:31 pm   in: Legal Employment
Save the money, go with the duals.



Ultrawides are super cool, look awesome, are fun to having for gaming, but for productivity it is better psychologically to have two separate monitors. At least that's what I think.
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Re: Would you take this in-house offer?  
  by: Elston Gunn   on: October 20, at 1:38:00 pm   in: Legal Employment
This sounds like a solid offer but I think equity grant and hours expectation are both important considerations too. Assuming equity is in line with market and it’s standard business hours, this sounds like a pretty great offer and comparable with standard comp packages from top companies. OP here. Thanks, the lack of equity is the one component giving me pause. The position is with a subsidiary ...
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Re: Austin TX legal market - plaintiff firms?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 1:29:12 pm   in: Legal Employment
Frankly, not many. Reid Collins & Tsai and Baron & Budd have a small offices here. Nix Patterson Roach has an Austin office as well, but I don't know big it is or how regularly they hire. There are also some good small/midsized firms that do some plaintiffs work, but nothing on a Lieff Cabraser scale. Disappointing to hear. Any specific midsized plaintiffs firms that are particularly reputable an...
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Re: Firm reimbursement for cell service  
  by: lawdude31   on: October 20, at 1:12:46 pm   in: Legal Employment
Kirkland is giving new associates iPhone 11's (Pro), not even an iPhone 12...
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Re: Dual Monitors or Ultrawide  
  by: lawdude31   on: October 20, at 1:11:20 pm   in: Legal Employment
49 sounds great in theory but I'd highly suggest two bezel-less 27s. It just makes for better multitasking and most apps/websites are not optimized for a 49 inch screen so you'll have to use third party apps to multitask efficiently and live with lots of empty space and black bars when you want to fullscreen. This 100%. You want two separate monitors for the exact reason above. Also — get curved ...
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 1:04:24 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
AF JAG here (anon because I'm punching out in 2021). I'm planning on transferring to the ANG or Reserves after 6+ years on active duty. My question is regarding transferring my GI Bill benefits to a dependent (I have received the "you are eligible to transfer" email). Have any ANG/Reservists here successfully transferred their GI Bill by doing the six years on active duty BUT signing up for the a...
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Re: Would you take this in-house offer?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 12:58:47 pm   in: Legal Employment
Thanks in advance for any input. I'm a midlevel in a very hot niche practice area and just recently started looking for in house opportunities. Surprisingly, I'm fortunate to have gotten a lot of traction right off the bat (applied to about 6 practice area-specific jobs, got interviews at 5 of them, got to the second round in 4 of them and so far have offers at 3 of them). Of the offers I've rece...
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Re: Stressed that I might lose offer due to 3L Grades  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 12:47:46 pm   in: Legal Employment
Thanks for replying. That's definitely reassuring to hear that I shouldn't be overly stressed about losing my offer. I hope that the partner genuinely meant it when he said that — yeah, he essentially said just don't fail any classes. I met with one of the Deans and they essentially told me that I could take an incomplete, but that's about it . . . which obviously doesn't do me any good as a 3L si...
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Re: Dual Monitors or Ultrawide  
  by: purplegoldtornado   on: October 20, at 12:42:35 pm   in: Legal Employment
49 sounds great in theory but I'd highly suggest two bezel-less 27s. It just makes for better multitasking and most apps/websites are not optimized for a 49 inch screen so you'll have to use third party apps to multitask efficiently and live with lots of empty space and black bars when you want to fullscreen. This 100%. You want two separate monitors for the exact reason above. Also — get curved ...
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Vandy Early Decision App  
  by: AB1999   on: October 20, at 12:41:49 pm   in: What are my chances?
3.3 GPA and 168 LSAT

Good undergrad school and decent softs.

LSN data shows that I have a 50/50 shot of getting in RD, I am wondering if those odds would be much lower ED given guaranteed money.



Thank you in advance and best of luck to everyone applying this cycle.
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Re: Stressed that I might lose offer due to 3L Grades  
  by: LS989   on: October 20, at 12:14:09 pm   in: Legal Employment
How worried should I be about losing my offer at a V20 due to a slip in 3L grades? My evidence class has been a complete shit show this semester, and it's starting to look like I'm probably going to end up with C, C+, or B-. My lowest grade up until this point was a B+. Am I at serious risk of having my offer rescinded? I'm pretty freaking stressed at the moment about this. I looked at my offer l...
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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 12:11:29 pm   in: Legal Employment
What a shitty time to be in the vale...
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Re: 3L OCI 2020/21  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 12:11:21 pm   in: Legal Employment
I'm a 3L. Received and accepted the offer from the firm I summered at but I'm looking to change firms. Will try to get some interviews at OCI. How will firms view this? Will they ask if I accepted my offer or just avoid the topic? If they do ask how can I respond?
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Re: Dual Monitors or Ultrawide  
  by: the lsat failure   on: October 20, at 12:09:14 pm   in: Legal Employment
49 sounds great in theory but I'd highly suggest two bezel-less 27s. It just makes for better multitasking and most apps/websites are not optimized for a 49 inch screen so you'll have to use third party apps to multitask efficiently and live with lots of empty space and black bars when you want to fullscreen.
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Re: Dual Monitors or Ultrawide  
  by: UnassumingUsername   on: October 20, at 11:54:44 am   in: Legal Employment
Why not both?
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Stressed that I might lose offer due to 3L Grades  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 11:52:59 am   in: Legal Employment
How worried should I be about losing my offer at a V20 due to a slip in 3L grades? My evidence class has been a complete shit show this semester, and it's starting to look like I'm probably going to end up with C, C+, or B-. My lowest grade up until this point was a B+. Am I at serious risk of having my offer rescinded? I'm pretty freaking stressed at the moment about this. I looked at my offer le...
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Patrick Bateman   on: October 20, at 11:43:25 am   in: Public Interest & Government
AF JAG here (anon because I'm punching out in 2021). I'm planning on transferring to the ANG or Reserves after 6+ years on active duty. My question is regarding transferring my GI Bill benefits to a dependent (I have received the "you are eligible to transfer" email). Have any ANG/Reservists here successfully transferred their GI Bill by doing the six years on active duty BUT signing up for the a...
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Patrick Bateman   on: October 20, at 11:35:04 am   in: Public Interest & Government
I am applying to an NG JAG slot. I have passed the bar and been admitted in my state, so I have my certificate of good standing. The application requirements provide under Tab 11 that, in addition to the "Statement From the Clerk of the Highest Court," all applicants must submit a "Bar Examination Memorandum." "The certification of bar examination memo is a new requirement that must be completed ...
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Re: Firm reimbursement for cell service  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 11:29:35 am   in: Legal Employment
Anon for privacy but my V30 firm is not honoring phone upgrades during WFH.
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Dual Monitors or Ultrawide  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 11:24:54 am   in: Legal Employment
Looking to get some new monitors for the home office. What do you guys think about dual 27” monitors or one 49” ultra-wide?
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Re: Would you take this in-house offer?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 11:23:13 am   in: Legal Employment
Thanks in advance for any input. I'm a midlevel in a very hot niche practice area and just recently started looking for in house opportunities. Surprisingly, I'm fortunate to have gotten a lot of traction right off the bat (applied to about 6 practice area-specific jobs, got interviews at 5 of them, got to the second round in 4 of them and so far have offers at 3 of them). Of the offers I've rece...
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Re: Best Firms for Practicing Tax in Dallas/Houston  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 10:33:15 am   in: Legal Employment
The hottest tax controversy areas for the next decade will involve micro captive insurance companies and syndicated conservation easements - much smaller dollar amounts at stake but lots and lots of volume. These cases seem to go to smaller boutique-type shops (primarily out of Atlanta)
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 10:27:57 am   in: Public Interest & Government
Has anybody either received or been denied a medical waiver by Army JARO yet?
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Re: Bristow 2021  
  by: 24601   on: October 20, at 10:12:45 am   in: Public Interest & Government
Not yet. As of last week, they were still in the early stages.
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Re: Best Firms for Practicing Tax in Dallas/Houston  
  by: nealric   on: October 20, at 9:57:28 am   in: Legal Employment
Nealric will know more, but my impression is that it will be a heavy lift to find a strong controversy group in Texas (or anywhere outside of NYC/DC for that matter). Chances are very strong that any tax group you join in Texas will have you supporting corporate. Given that, any of the big corporate groups in Texas will have a large tax group (BB/VA/LW/KE) Edit: Baker Mckenzie has offices in texa...
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Re: Just Landed a Media In-House Role in LA; NYC Corporate Lawyer; AMA  
  by: legalpotato   on: October 20, at 9:45:27 am   in: Legal Employment
Apologies OP, but mind PM'ing me too?
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Re: Tracking COVID-19's effect on V100 associate pay/layoffs  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 9:44:35 am   in: Legal Employment
K&E stealth staff layoffs (associates safe as far as I know)
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Re: Best Firms for Practicing Tax in Dallas/Houston  
  by: wilmontwombat   on: October 20, at 9:36:29 am   in: Legal Employment
Nealric will know more, but my impression is that it will be a heavy lift to find a strong controversy group in Texas (or anywhere outside of NYC/DC for that matter). Chances are very strong that any tax group you join in Texas will have you supporting corporate. Given that, any of the big corporate groups in Texas will have a large tax group (BB/VA/LW/KE) Edit: Baker Mckenzie has offices in texa...
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Re: Honors Attorney Program 2020-2021 (non-DOJ)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 9:25:28 am   in: Public Interest & Government
When I interview a month ago for DOL they had asked where I'd like to work I said HQ, and they explained that the screeners just volunteer to interview people it is not necessarily for the place you apply. They just screen, make a recommendation and send it up. When did you apply? Is it for DC or regional office? I received an interview invite today for DOL. I applied for one of the regional offic...
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Re: Honors Attorney Program 2020-2021 (non-DOJ)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 9:24:03 am   in: Public Interest & Government
I had my screener for NSA just last week. My interviewer told me they meet in 2 weeks to discuss next round interviews with GC and deputy GC, and I would know more then and he mentioned at the latest and more realistically in a 3-4 weeks. I interview for DHS (no ICE) Thursday. They seem to be moving fast. Had a screener with NSA in early September and haven't heard back yet (but heard from someone...
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Re: Best Firms for Practicing Tax in Dallas/Houston  
  by: nealric   on: October 20, at 9:11:45 am   in: Legal Employment
Nealric will know more, but my impression is that it will be a heavy lift to find a strong controversy group in Texas (or anywhere outside of NYC/DC for that matter). Chances are very strong that any tax group you join in Texas will have you supporting corporate. Given that, any of the big corporate groups in Texas will have a large tax group (BB/VA/LW/KE) Edit: Baker Mckenzie has offices in texa...
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Re: Best Firms for Practicing Tax in Dallas/Houston  
  by: wilmontwombat   on: October 20, at 8:41:28 am   in: Legal Employment
My firm only has a small tax group in Dallas. Usually they only take on a new associate every other year. Our tax group (similar to other specialty groups) just seems to have a higher Partner to associate ratio so that may be part of the reason. I've heard at least historically that Thompson & Knight in Dallas has a well regarded and relatively large tax group that does some controversy work but ...
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Re: Best Firms for Practicing Tax in Dallas/Houston  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 8:29:35 am   in: Legal Employment
My firm only has a small tax group in Dallas. Usually they only take on a new associate every other year. Our tax group (similar to other specialty groups) just seems to have a higher Partner to associate ratio so that may be part of the reason. I've heard at least historically that Thompson & Knight in Dallas has a well regarded and relatively large tax group that does some controversy work but t...
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Re: AUSA/USAO hiring  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 8:09:33 am   in: Public Interest & Government
Has anyone heard anything from C.D. Cal or E.D. MI recently? I had an interview with one of them 3-4 weeks ago but haven't heard back since.
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Re: Best Firms for Practicing Tax in Dallas/Houston  
  by: wilmontwombat   on: October 20, at 8:02:24 am   in: Legal Employment
Keep in mind that even at the large firms, tax groups can be pretty small and selective. I have a few friends who summered around V&E with an interest in tax, and I think the tax group took 3-4 people out of like, 50 summers. I understand it can be tough, but wow those are slim numbers. Any advice on how to become one of the select few other than taking lots of tax classes to demonstrate interest?
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Re: Best Firms for Practicing Tax in Dallas/Houston  
  by: wilmontwombat   on: October 20, at 7:59:27 am   in: Legal Employment
Nealric will know more, but my impression is that it will be a heavy lift to find a strong controversy group in Texas (or anywhere outside of NYC/DC for that matter). Chances are very strong that any tax group you join in Texas will have you supporting corporate. Given that, any of the big corporate groups in Texas will have a large tax group (BB/VA/LW/KE) Edit: Baker Mckenzie has offices in texa...
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Re: Best Firms for Practicing Tax in Dallas/Houston  
  by: blair.waldorf   on: October 20, at 7:41:47 am   in: Legal Employment
Keep in mind that even at the large firms, tax groups can be pretty small and selective. I have a few friends who summered around V&E with an interest in tax, and I think the tax group took 3-4 people out of like, 50 summers.
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Re: Honors Attorney Program 2020-2021 (non-DOJ)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 7:35:26 am   in: Public Interest & Government
I just wrapped up my second round DOT interviews. They said they aim to make decisions by Thanksgiving, but more realistically it will be around Christmas.
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Re: Best Firms for Practicing Tax in Dallas/Houston  
  by: dabigchina   on: October 20, at 7:32:34 am   in: Legal Employment
Nealric will know more, but my impression is that it will be a heavy lift to find a strong controversy group in Texas (or anywhere outside of NYC/DC for that matter). Chances are very strong that any tax group you join in Texas will have you supporting corporate. Given that, any of the big corporate groups in Texas will have a large tax group (BB/VA/LW/KE) Edit: Baker Mckenzie has offices in texas...
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Re: Honors Attorney Program 2020-2021 (non-DOJ)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 6:53:27 am   in: Public Interest & Government
Applied last week to NLRB Board and GC programs (in DC). Figured I'd start a thread here if anyone starts hearing anything! +1 on wanting hear about NLRB Board and GC! I've heard mixed messages about interview requests--someone I know got an initial interview almost right away last year and was asked to send over writing samples/supplemental material soon after, but then still didn't hear anythin...
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Re: Would you take this in-house offer?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 6:31:50 am   in: Legal Employment
Thanks in advance for any input. I'm a midlevel in a very hot niche practice area and just recently started looking for in house opportunities. Surprisingly, I'm fortunate to have gotten a lot of traction right off the bat (applied to about 6 practice area-specific jobs, got interviews at 5 of them, got to the second round in 4 of them and so far have offers at 3 of them). Of the offers I've rece...
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Re: Bristow 2021  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 6:10:53 am   in: Public Interest & Government
still nothing?
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Re: Just Landed a Media In-House Role in LA; NYC Corporate Lawyer; AMA  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 5:56:55 am   in: Legal Employment
Do you know of any patent litigators who have gone in-house at, well, any kind of business? If so, could you share any details? Some of the people at the company I’ll be joining are former patent litigators (and now doing a mix of general IP work/IP portfolio management, licensing agreements and anything else that comes up). My sample size of examples isn’t huge but it seemed like it’d be easier ...
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Re: Just Landed a Media In-House Role in LA; NYC Corporate Lawyer; AMA  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 5:46:29 am   in: Legal Employment
I've generally had the impression that in-house jobs (at least the ones I've interviewed for, or have seen people go to) have seen M&A experience as the clearest proxy of "generalist" corporate experience. If you do more Capital Markets or Finance, people tend to push you toward doing very similar work; if you do M&A, people tend to assume you can do almost anything that randomly comes up (invest...
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Re: 3.85/164  
  by: ZVBXRPL   on: October 20, at 5:42:41 am   in: What are my chances?
LSAT a bit low, but maybe a shot at lower t14? I had 166 and 3.84 and I think the 2 points were all the difference. Got into 3 T14 and settled on NYU with $. Definitely apply broadly, in case they throw schollies at you, so that you can negotiate with other schools...
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Re: 2021 3L OCI  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 5:13:12 am   in: Legal Employment
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10443963 time=1602799131 user_id=45852]
Any recent DPW 3L movement?
[/quote]

Also curious about this, but also has anyone heard of offers/callbacks with other firms as well?
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Re: Honors Attorney Program 2020-2021 (non-DOJ)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 4:49:02 am   in: Public Interest & Government
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10444213 time=1603203183 user_id=45852]
When did you apply? Is it for DC or regional office?
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10444161 time=1603136628 user_id=45852]
I received an interview invite today for DOL.
[/quote]
[/quote]

I applied for one of the regional offices. I applied a day or two before the deadline. The email came from someone in the national office, though.
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Re: Honors Attorney Program 2020-2021 (non-DOJ)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 20, at 4:13:03 am   in: Public Interest & Government
When did you apply? Is it for DC or regional office?
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10444161 time=1603136628 user_id=45852]
I received an interview invite today for DOL.
[/quote]
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Re: Would you take this in-house offer?  
  by: TigerIsBack   on: October 20, at 3:47:49 am   in: Legal Employment
Thanks in advance for any input. I'm a midlevel in a very hot niche practice area and just recently started looking for in house opportunities. Surprisingly, I'm fortunate to have gotten a lot of traction right off the bat (applied to about 6 practice area-specific jobs, got interviews at 5 of them, got to the second round in 4 of them and so far have offers at 3 of them). Of the offers I've rece...
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Re: Firm reimbursement for cell service  
  by: Whatislaw   on: October 19, at 9:19:41 pm   in: Legal Employment
It will be interesting to see if firms offer new phones as the WFH situation continues.
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Re: 3.87 LSAC GPA / 173 - is it worth it to apply to Harvard?  
  by: happyday   on: October 19, at 9:06:15 pm   in: What are my chances?
Hi happyday, I've got similar stats and applying in the future. I'm wondering how your cycle went? Did you get into Harvard? Hey hooverdam, Good luck with your applications (if you’re applying this cycle)! I ended up getting waitlisted by Harvard :D Got into Chicago ($45k), Columbia (Butler), Michigan ($150k), and Cornell (did not negotiate for scholarship). Waitlisted by the couple other T14s I ...
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Re: TLS Vault Survey Cartel: ITT we remember to collectively give 0s/10s to firms that earned them  
  by: Auxilio   on: October 19, at 8:33:22 pm   in: Legal Employment
I agree that this site isn't what it used to, but compared to places like /r/lawschool threads can actually build over time. I still think this is a good idea, but when North mentioned bumping when surveys go out, we should include in that posting to /r/lawschool, facebook groups you are in, etc. On topic, every firm listed https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=304915 who cut...
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Re: First year disaster  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 19, at 5:39:19 pm   in: Legal Employment
[quote=Ohiobumpkin post_id=10444190 time=1603153464 user_id=87857]
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10444182 time=1603151837 user_id=45852]
Partner gave me a grammar book during my first year after an assignment...three years in and I’m one of the first associate he calls for a project. You’ll be fine.
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Which grammar book?
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Different anon, but a partner gave me “getting it right and getting it written.”
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Re: Just Landed a Media In-House Role in LA; NYC Corporate Lawyer; AMA  
  by: PB&J.D.   on: October 19, at 4:55:52 pm   in: Legal Employment
[size=85][/size][quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10444099 time=1603042549 user_id=45852]

[quote]This is super helpful. I'd love to ask a follow-up since I'm in a somewhat similar situation. Would you mind PM'ing me?[/quote]Sure, I'll PM you!
[/quote]

OP, could you PM me as well?
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 19, at 4:55:36 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
This will be my third time applying. Hoping third time is the charm! Anybody in the same position of applying for third or fourth rounds? Between my first time applying and now I've heard the job changed and I've read the TLS posts. Two attorneys said that it is a fabulous place to train for two years and then apply somewhere new. I'm realistic and I know it's not a good place to spend your entir...
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 19, at 4:48:55 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
1. Does anyone have any idea how many trademark examiners is the USPTO looking to hire this cycle? 2. Does it make sense to apply for the entry level and experienced positions at the same time (for someone with less than 5 years of trademark experience?) 3. Are these positions open to the public or just to former/existing government employees? The posting are quite confusing. Thanks 1. Not sure h...
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Re: Would working at a firm for only a year be worth it for my goals?  
  by: nahumya   on: October 19, at 4:39:26 pm   in: Legal Employment
You need to work in a private firm at first in order to have an exit-from-gov't plan. If you're 10 years out and have never worked in a law firm, a law firm is unlikely to hire you. This is incorrect. If you have a few years of good DOJ experience, no one will care whether you've done some doc review at biglaw post law school for a year or not. It's very common to go the clerkships-government rou...
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Re: Austin TX legal market - plaintiff firms?  
  by: HenryHankPalmer   on: October 19, at 4:30:27 pm   in: Legal Employment
Frankly, not many. Reid Collins & Tsai and Baron & Budd have a small offices here. Nix Patterson Roach has an Austin office as well, but I don't know big it is or how regularly they hire. There are also some good small/midsized firms that do some plaintiffs work, but nothing on a Lieff Cabraser scale.
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Re: LEGAL SALARY DATAPOINTS  
  by: NoLongerALurker   on: October 19, at 4:09:13 pm   in: Legal Employment
Seen some 4th to 6th year associates exit in house to investment banks lately. What are these people usually landing at? VP I assume? What kind of salary are they getting generally? Anyone know?
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Re: DHS Honors Attorney Program 2020/2021  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 19, at 3:55:56 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
I got an email this evening for a first round interview, as well.
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Re: DHS Honors Attorney Program 2020/2021  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 19, at 3:47:39 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Also just got my first round interview tonight scheduled for Thursday.
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Re: Jobless T-14 Grad needs advice  
  by: Sackboy   on: October 19, at 3:46:53 pm   in: Legal Employment
[quote=andythefir post_id=10444172 time=1603143137 user_id=63632]
Have you applied to rural DA/PD/AG jobs? 2 years, 40 jury trials there and you can move on with your life with way more transferable skills than soc reciew.
[/quote]

This. Coming from either of HYS or NU, it will be assumed that this is the outcome you WANTED, and you'll still be able to wiggle yourselves into some seriously great outcomes with your pedigree.
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Re: Chances (168, 3.74)  
  by: mwells_56   on: October 19, at 3:40:39 pm   in: What are my chances?
You should retake. You will be out of CCN, maybe pull some of the DPVM group, and likely at least one of NW/C. But probably with no money at all. This was my third take. I had already been PTing well into the 170s (got a 178 on a PT like two days before the real thing) so I'm basically accepting this is the best I can do and I'm not upset about it. Money not really a big concern. You can take mor...
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Re: DHS Honors Attorney Program 2020/2021  
  by: RBG123   on: October 19, at 3:40:24 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
I just received an email scheduling my first round phone interview for later this week.
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Re: Austin TX legal market - plaintiff firms?  
  by: trmckenz   on: October 19, at 3:34:13 pm   in: Legal Employment
Thomas J. Henry advertises all the time
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Re: First year disaster  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 19, at 3:24:14 pm   in: Legal Employment
You are not a failure and don't buy into that voice in your head. I'm a midlevel now and made some downright terrible mistakes during my second month at the firm (I even wrote about it: [REDACTED] ) I also thought I wasn't cut out for this but things eventually got better. I understood the substance better after time, I got familiar with what partners were looking for, and I got better at spottin...
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Re: DHS Honors Attorney Program 2020/2021  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 19, at 3:21:05 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10444177 time=1603147778 user_id=45852]
[quote=sek315 post_id=10444157 time=1603133444 user_id=220830]
Anybody hear back about second round? Or have an idea on timeline?
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I just got notified to schedule a first-round phone screener, so they may not be at the point of setting up second-round interviews yet.
[/quote]

I just got my first round screener. Previously interviewed with ICE OPLA Honors. Didn't realize they were separate.
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=307191

Re: hmmm...not sure if I can trust barbri conviser anymore  
  by: kevinandre   on: October 19, at 3:12:51 pm   in: Forum for Law School Students
I hate to break this to you, but there are lots of different ways to teach that. If you google "elements of agency" there are lots of different formulations on the first page and none are ABC. There are lots of different ways to word lots of different concepts. thank you, this is a good tip for me. and maybe even a breakthrough. every time I try to study for the bar I get stuck on the first page ...
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=307428

Re: Penn Law Professor: Amy Wax  
  by: ksm6969   on: October 19, at 3:11:50 pm   in: Legal News/Law Firm Gossip
Has anybody thought about getting the measuring tapes out and measuring skull sizes? Seems like that should give us a definitive answer either way.
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=303294

Re: Best Firms for Practicing Tax in Dallas/Houston  
  by: wilmontwombat   on: October 19, at 2:32:48 pm   in: Legal Employment
[quote=HydroFlask666 post_id=10444183 time=1603152126 user_id=134132]
What are your ties? Most people target one or the other city.
[/quote]
I have solid ties to Dallas but not to Houston. All things considered, I'd prefer Dallas, but I am including Houston in my search just to cover my bases.
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=307426

Re: First year disaster  
  by: Ohiobumpkin   on: October 19, at 2:24:24 pm   in: Legal Employment
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10444182 time=1603151837 user_id=45852]
Partner gave me a grammar book during my first year after an assignment...three years in and I’m one of the first associate he calls for a project. You’ll be fine.
[/quote]

Which grammar book?
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=307423

Re: hmmm...not sure if I can trust barbri conviser anymore  
  by: nixy   on: October 19, at 2:18:13 pm   in: Forum for Law School Students
I hate to break this to you, but there are lots of different ways to teach that. If you google "elements of agency" there are lots of different formulations on the first page and none are ABC.



There are lots of different ways to word lots of different concepts.
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=307428

Re: M&A / PE - What Should I Read?  
  by: CanadianWolf   on: October 19, at 2:15:33 pm   in: Legal Employment
That is why in my initial post I hesitated at recommending books for the original poster as no educational background was shared and only minimal practice experience was given.
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=307409

Re: DHS Honors Attorney Program 2020/2021  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 19, at 2:15:19 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
I also just got contacted for a screener interview today. I applied to HQ only.



Just curious--for those of you with interviews, did someone from the Intelligence section contact you? I'm wondering if the person who emailed me is any indication that they are considering me for that section as one of the rotations or if it is just random.
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=307191

Re: Penn Law Professor: Amy Wax  
  by: nixy   on: October 19, at 2:15:01 pm   in: Legal News/Law Firm Gossip
What does not wanting to read her stuff or watch her talk about it have to do with silencing her? Last I checked, no one has silenced her. Just because I think her stuff is worthless doesn't mean I'm silencing her.
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=303294

hmmm...not sure if I can trust barbri conviser anymore  
  by: kevinandre   on: October 19, at 2:14:33 pm   in: Forum for Law School Students
so I just opened my barbri conviser for the first time. I am hoping this will prepare me for the bar exam. first chapter is agency. immediately upon reading, I have red flags going up. everybody knows the elements of agency are ABC: assent, benefit, control. even if you slept through law school, you would know your ABC. if you look at successful past exams online, you will come across ABC over and...
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=307428

Re: Honors Attorney Program 2020-2021 (non-DOJ)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 19, at 2:09:38 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Had a screener with NSA in early September and haven't heard back yet (but heard from someone who interviewed last week that they will send out invitations for second rounds at the end of October). I also just got an invitation for first-round interview for DHS. I applied to HQ only (no ICE). Haven't heard back from FCC, FTC, or DOS.
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=307075

Re: Best Firms for Practicing Tax in Dallas/Houston  
  by: HydroFlask666   on: October 19, at 2:02:06 pm   in: Legal Employment
What are your ties? Most people target one or the other city.
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=307426

Re: First year disaster  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 19, at 1:57:17 pm   in: Legal Employment
Partner gave me a grammar book during my first year after an assignment...three years in and I’m one of the first associate he calls for a project. You’ll be fine.
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=307423

Re: Honors Attorney Program 2020-2021 (non-DOJ)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 19, at 1:54:44 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
received first round interview about a month ago.


[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10444151 time=1603128660 user_id=45852]
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10444048 time=1602889447 user_id=45852]
Has anyone who applied directly gotten a phone interview invite from DOL (not OCI)?
[/quote]

No news here. I've been referred for weeks now, but I haven't received an invitation to interview.
[/quote]
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Re: Honors Attorney Program 2020-2021 (non-DOJ)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 19, at 1:53:17 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Interviewed about a month ago for DOL. Clerking now post grad so applied on USAjobs and got a first round interview that way (aka not through OCI).


[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10444048 time=1602889447 user_id=45852]
Has anyone who applied directly gotten a phone interview invite from DOL (not OCI)?
[/quote]
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Re: Court of Appeals Staff Attorney Positions  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 19, at 1:40:20 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Boosting because I'm also interested in the timeline for Staff Attorney hiring, but for next year. Have the 2nd and 3rd Circuits finished hiring for 2021 yet? OP here. The only intel I have is that 2nd Circuit hiring was delayed because of COVID, and that 3rd is going through resumes as we speak. Also wanting to boost so that some kind soul out there can ease my worries about the other COAs :roll:
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=307393

Re: DHS Honors Attorney Program 2020/2021  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 19, at 12:49:38 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
[quote=sek315 post_id=10444157 time=1603133444 user_id=220830]
Anybody hear back about second round? Or have an idea on timeline?
[/quote]

I just got notified to schedule a first-round phone screener, so they may not be at the point of setting up second-round interviews yet.
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=307191

Austin TX legal market - plaintiff firms?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 19, at 12:31:58 pm   in: Legal Employment
Google searching hasn't brought up nearly as many options in the Austin TX market as I had imagined. My guess is most firms have their Texas offices in Dallas or Houston?



Either way, anyone know of any plaintiff side firms in Austin that are of the size and reputation of Cohen Milstein, Lieff Cabraser, or Outten & Golden/Sanford Heisler, etc.
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=307427

Best Firms for Practicing Tax in Dallas/Houston  
  by: wilmontwombat   on: October 19, at 11:36:25 am   in: Legal Employment
I'm a 2L at a T14 preparing for OCI. I'm aiming for Texas firms, particularly in Dallas or Houston, and am interested in tax law. I would probably prefer tax controversy over the corporate/planning side of things, but I am honestly open to either. Does anyone have any insight about the best firms for this in these markets and what conditions are like? Any other advice for breaking into tax is also...
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=307426

Re: Court of Appeals Staff Attorney Positions  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 19, at 11:35:57 am   in: Public Interest & Government
Boosting because I'm also interested in the timeline for Staff Attorney hiring, but for next year. Have the 2nd and 3rd Circuits finished hiring for 2021 yet?
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=307393

Re: NY 1st Department Admissions  
  by: teenageluminary   on: October 19, at 11:33:16 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I received an invite for the Oct. 26th ceremony today.



As I noted upthread, I (re)submitted my application online due to the pandemic around July 27th - so for anyone else who is still waiting to hear from the first department, it took about 11 weeks for everything to be processed.
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=304923

Re: Jobless T-14 Grad needs advice  
  by: andythefir   on: October 19, at 11:32:17 am   in: Legal Employment
Have you applied to rural DA/PD/AG jobs? 2 years, 40 jury trials there and you can move on with your life with way more transferable skills than soc reciew.
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Re: Penn Law Professor: Amy Wax  
  by: gekko   on: October 19, at 11:13:20 am   in: Legal News/Law Firm Gossip
It is certainly worth discussion, for one very simple reason. The alternative is to assign all differences in outcomes to social bias. While bias is a possibility for differences in outcomes, it is not the only potential reason, nor should anyone be able to apply this is the case without opening debate to potential alternatives. I would object to the phrase "just smarter" and replace it with "curr...
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=303294

Re: Military Law  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 19, at 11:03:17 am   in: Public Interest & Government
Does anyone have any details on what DCC and TJAGLCS looks like right now? I'm only really familiar with the Army but information from all branches is welcome. Obviously masks are mandatory. But are people still getting roommates at Benning? What's it like to workout if gyms are closed? I think some previous commenters mentioned that some classes are "remote." Generally, what is life like? I'd ass...
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=31543

Re: First year disaster  
  by: UnfrozenCaveman   on: October 19, at 11:01:36 am   in: Legal Employment
Agree with previous posters that you shouldn't beat yourself up over it, but as a counterpoint, the procrastination is impressive for it being your first week.
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=307423

Re: Honors Attorney Program 2020-2021 (non-DOJ)  
  by: alexazogo   on: October 19, at 10:34:13 am   in: Public Interest & Government
Applied last week to NLRB Board and GC programs (in DC). Figured I'd start a thread here if anyone starts hearing anything!
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=307075

Re: Nashville Big Law - 2018 Salary Information  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 19, at 10:22:58 am   in: Legal Employment
Bump
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=298127

Re: M&A / PE - What Should I Read?  
  by: qxfr   on: October 19, at 10:21:18 am   in: Legal Employment
On a day to day basis, you don't need to know much about finance/accounting or know how to model. But, speaking as a senior associate (in finance, not M&A), not really understanding financial statements is one of the biggest weaknesses that junior and mid-level associates have.
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Re: Penn Law Professor: Amy Wax  
  by: Dcc617   on: October 19, at 10:16:39 am   in: Legal News/Law Firm Gossip
To be clear, you're saying that the idea of whether some races are just smarter than others is a topic worthy of discussion. Not to mention all of the gaping holes in your knowledge re the history of the IQ test, your unwarranted assumption that it measures something of value, and your flipping of cause and effect (or ignoring that social outcomes and IQ test are both explained by a confounding va...
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Re: M&A / PE - What Should I Read?  
  by: CanadianWolf   on: October 19, at 10:08:29 am   in: Legal Employment
Once again, I suggest that you follow the suggestion of Voxius posted above if you want substantive material for legal work.



At least one other solid recommendation by qxfr may be more appropriate for finance folks & accountants as I doubt that you do any modeling as an attorney.



Additionally, look over the PLI offerings.
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Re: Just Landed a Media In-House Role in LA; NYC Corporate Lawyer; AMA  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 19, at 10:04:13 am   in: Legal Employment
Do you know of any patent litigators who have gone in-house at, well, any kind of business? If so, could you share any details?
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=307396

Re: Corporate to Litigation Lateral  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 19, at 9:50:22 am   in: Legal Employment
I switched from corporate to litigation, but did it after only about one year in corporate, and knew from the beginning that I was going to try to lateral to transfer. Still, I created a thread on my experience and tips. Hope you find this helpful, and I'd be happy to answer any questions you had. https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=296943 Hey, I've read your thread before...
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=307412

Re: Honors Attorney Program 2020-2021 (non-DOJ)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 19, at 9:43:48 am   in: Public Interest & Government
I received an interview invite today for DOL.
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=307075

Re: ZwillGen Fellowship  
  by: 2L2B   on: October 19, at 9:34:26 am   in: Legal Employment
I also havent heard anything and im concerned my application got filter as spam or something? No confirmation email or anything
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=307346

Re: M&A / PE - What Should I Read?  
  by: qxfr   on: October 19, at 9:06:55 am   in: Legal Employment
Matt Levine's Money Stuff is really good. Barbarians at the Gate is good to get you excited about the work and it's what everyone pretends M&A/PE is like, but of course it rarely is. Working through something like this (don't worry, you can do it even if you don't have a finance background) will be very helpful: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1118656210/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8...
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=307409

Re: Just Landed a Media In-House Role in LA; NYC Corporate Lawyer; AMA  
  by: SamuelDanforth   on: October 19, at 8:50:47 am   in: Legal Employment
I've generally had the impression that in-house jobs (at least the ones I've interviewed for, or have seen people go to) have seen M&A experience as the clearest proxy of "generalist" corporate experience. If you do more Capital Markets or Finance, people tend to push you toward doing very similar work; if you do M&A, people tend to assume you can do almost anything that randomly comes up (invest...
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Re: DHS Honors Attorney Program 2020/2021  
  by: sek315   on: October 19, at 8:50:44 am   in: Public Interest & Government
Anybody hear back about second round? Or have an idea on timeline?
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=307191

Re: Prediction: When will NYC lawyers return to the office?  
  by: ghostoftraynor   on: October 19, at 8:38:35 am   in: Legal Employment
My V40 is on some of the top floors of a very tall building. Even with separate elevator banks, we've been told that lobby and elevator capacity will be a major issue and reason alone to not require people to come in en masse. Entering and leaving the building could take a long time and be a terribly inefficient process. This issue is not unique to my firm. Unofficial word from those close to fir...
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2020-2021  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 19, at 8:08:36 am   in: Public Interest & Government
Make sure you check your junk mail for the email invite to your virtual interview.
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=306718

Re: Penn Law Professor: Amy Wax  
  by: gekko   on: October 19, at 8:03:30 am   in: Legal News/Law Firm Gossip
I don't recall if this is an area she addressed or not but the history of IQ tests and other intelligence tests (SAT, for example) are actually to combat the bias of a class system. The US military began administering IQ tests early on to determine appropriate candidates for military roles around a century ago. The initial goal of the SAT was to combat class bias inherent in education. For example...
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Re: Would you take this in-house offer?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 19, at 7:59:05 am   in: Legal Employment
Thanks in advance for any input. I'm a midlevel in a very hot niche practice area and just recently started looking for in house opportunities. Surprisingly, I'm fortunate to have gotten a lot of traction right off the bat (applied to about 6 practice area-specific jobs, got interviews at 5 of them, got to the second round in 4 of them and so far have offers at 3 of them). Of the offers I've rece...
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Re: NYC biglaw litigation: lifestyle and free time  
  by: Best   on: October 19, at 7:42:32 am   in: Legal Employment
Way too high. Plan on working 7 days per week from 9 am to midnight. If you work less than that, yay! You get free time. At the beginning, it takes a bit to ramp up - but by Month 4 or so, you'll be going 110%. The other thing is, even if you *think* you are done with work, you can be called back in at any second. Your expectations should be: 6 hours of sleep per night 4 hours per weekend for soc...
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=307383

Re: Honors Attorney Program 2020-2021 (non-DOJ)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 19, at 7:31:00 am   in: Public Interest & Government
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10444048 time=1602889447 user_id=45852]
Has anyone who applied directly gotten a phone interview invite from DOL (not OCI)?
[/quote]

No news here. I've been referred for weeks now, but I haven't received an invitation to interview.
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=307075

Re: Corporate to Litigation Lateral  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 19, at 6:44:28 am   in: Legal Employment
I switched from corporate to litigation, but did it after only about one year in corporate, and knew from the beginning that I was going to try to lateral to transfer. Still, I created a thread on my experience and tips. Hope you find this helpful, and I'd be happy to answer any questions you had. https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=296943 Hey, I've read your thread before...
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=307412

Re: First year disaster  
  by: Idontwanttomakeaname   on: October 19, at 6:40:53 am   in: Legal Employment
If you're at a V50, your firm's doc processing department likely has proofreaders. For things that aren't time sensitive, I will often send to them just to get a fresh pair of eyes. At least at my firm, they work 24/7 so I usually send them stuff when I am signing off for the night so its in my inbox in the AM.
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=307423

Re: 2021-2022 Clerkship Application Thread  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 19, at 6:36:57 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10442752 time=1601530248 user_id=45852]
Any speculation on when more COA judges will post on OSCAR, for this year or beyond? The only recent one I'm seeing is from the therapist.
[/quote]

Who is the therapist?
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=306059

Re: Corporate to Litigation Lateral  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 19, at 6:24:29 am   in: Legal Employment
I switched from corporate to litigation, but did it after only about one year in corporate, and knew from the beginning that I was going to try to lateral to transfer. Still, I created a thread on my experience and tips. Hope you find this helpful, and I'd be happy to answer any questions you had.



https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=296943
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=307412

Re: NYC biglaw litigation: lifestyle and free time  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 19, at 5:31:35 am   in: Legal Employment
Way too high. Plan on working 7 days per week from 9 am to midnight. If you work less than that, yay! You get free time. At the beginning, it takes a bit to ramp up - but by Month 4 or so, you'll be going 110%. The other thing is, even if you *think* you are done with work, you can be called back in at any second. Your expectations should be: 6 hours of sleep per night 4 hours per weekend for soc...
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=307383

Re: Pre-OCI 2020  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 19, at 4:59:11 am   in: Legal Employment
Have folks been emailing recruiters directly or applying online?
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=306091

Re: First year disaster  
  by: smile0751   on: October 19, at 4:56:53 am   in: Legal Employment
You are not a failure and don't buy into that voice in your head. I'm a midlevel now and made some downright terrible mistakes during my second month at the firm (I even wrote about it: [REDACTED] ) I also thought I wasn't cut out for this but things eventually got better. I understood the substance better after time, I got familiar with what partners were looking for, and I got better at spottin...
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=307423

Re: First year disaster  
  by: plantcoveredbuilding   on: October 19, at 4:48:24 am   in: Legal Employment
You are not a failure and don't buy into that voice in your head. I'm a midlevel now and made some downright terrible mistakes during my second month at the firm (I even wrote about it: [REDACTED] ) I also thought I wasn't cut out for this but things eventually got better. I understood the substance better after time, I got familiar with what partners were looking for, and I got better at spottin...
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=307423

Re: Military Law  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 19, at 4:35:51 am   in: Public Interest & Government
AF JAG here (anon because I'm punching out in 2021). I'm planning on transferring to the ANG or Reserves after 6+ years on active duty. My question is regarding transferring my GI Bill benefits to a dependent (I have received the "you are eligible to transfer" email). Have any ANG/Reservists here successfully transferred their GI Bill by doing the six years on active duty BUT signing up for the ad...
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=31543

Re: 2021-2022 Clerkship Application Thread  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 19, at 4:27:10 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Anyone know if Talwani hired for her 2021 spot or if interviews have gone out? Seems like the positions expired Someone said way, way up that Sam Lindsay had finished hiring, but he didn't update the posting until last week. It's tough. I'm curious about Cote, Castel, Berman; Block, Azrack; and Thompson. They all posted ages ago. Chen (E.D.N.Y.) claimed she wouldn't conduct interviews until Octob...
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=306059

Re: First year disaster  
  by: biglaw_advice   on: October 19, at 4:14:04 am   in: Legal Employment
You are not a failure and don't buy into that voice in your head. I'm a midlevel now and made some downright terrible mistakes during my second month at the firm ( [REDACTED] ) I also thought I wasn't cut out for this but things eventually got better. I understood the substance better after time, I got familiar with what partners were looking for, and I got better at spotting typos. On the last po...
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Re: Jobless T-14 Grad needs advice  
  by: LBJ's Hair   on: October 19, at 4:03:02 am   in: Legal Employment
What has career services told you? Have you exhausted their resources yet?



Feel like if you haven't had a single interview for *any* legal job in 4 months out of HYS (presumably you were applying earlier I guess) there might be issues with your resume or cover letter. But this is a weird time, so maybe not.
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=307425

Re: Honors Attorney Program 2020-2021 (non-DOJ)  
  by: gracepezzella93   on: October 19, at 3:45:47 am   in: Public Interest & Government
[quote="Anonymous User" post_id=10444070 time=1602953140 user_id=45852]
Has anyone heard anything from the FCC or the DOL in DC?
[/quote]

Still nothing from DOL in DC on my end.
https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=307075

Re: First year disaster  
  by: papermateflair   on: October 19, at 3:26:53 am   in: Legal Employment
It's been a week. Like what everyone else is saying, your friends just haven't had enough assignments to make these mistakes yet. I once put the wrong middle initials in a will I drafted for a client, and the partner didn't catch it and it came back with the middle initial scratched out and we had to send them new documents - it feels awful to make what feels like a stupid mistake. 20 years of for...
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Re: Penn Law Professor: Amy Wax  
  by: nixy   on: October 19, at 1:11:25 am   in: Legal News/Law Firm Gossip
I don't want to speak for someone else. I would simply recommend that you listen to her make her case, which certainly contains certain conclusions that would differ from my own. A premise that she relies on is that there are observed differences in measured IQ among various groups. Some argue that this is due to environmental aspects including nutrition, others argue that there are more genetic ...
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Re: Penn Law Professor: Amy Wax  
  by: cavalier1138   on: October 18, at 11:33:47 pm   in: Legal News/Law Firm Gossip
I don't want to speak for someone else. I would simply recommend that you listen to her make her case, which certainly contains certain conclusions that would differ from my own. A premise that she relies on is that there are observed differences in measured IQ among various groups. Some argue that this is due to environmental aspects including nutrition, others argue that there are more genetic ...
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Re: Penn Law Professor: Amy Wax  
  by: gekko   on: October 18, at 11:01:13 pm   in: Legal News/Law Firm Gossip
I don't want to speak for someone else. I would simply recommend that you listen to her make her case, which certainly contains certain conclusions that would differ from my own. A premise that she relies on is that there are observed differences in measured IQ among various groups. Some argue that this is due to environmental aspects including nutrition, others argue that there are more genetic f...
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 18, at 10:46:25 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
I was rejected from Air Force JAG. Any tips on how to improve/when to reapply/what to do?
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Re: Jobless T-14 Grad needs advice  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 18, at 10:43:54 pm   in: Legal Employment
Unemployed HYSer. Also looking for advice.
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Jobless T-14 Grad needs advice  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 18, at 8:32:22 pm   in: Legal Employment
I graduated in May from NU but I am still jobless. I've been pretty broad in my applications but have not had any interviews, and I've now began to apply for doc review jobs. I've been reaching out to alumni and other connections to try and grow my network but that has not produced results. Any advice would be appreciated.
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Re: M&A / PE - What Should I Read?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 18, at 6:37:07 pm   in: Legal Employment
Does anyone have recommendations for M&E/PE podcasts?



Law student, here, who learns a lot from conversational/interview podcasts (not overly produced like Serial).



So far, I've found Bloomberg's The Tape podcast to be good for substantive business news. But am hoping for good interviews with PE/M&A lawyers, etc.
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Re: Prediction: When will NYC lawyers return to the office?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 18, at 6:34:22 pm   in: Legal Employment
My V40 is on some of the top floors of a very tall building. Even with separate elevator banks, we've been told that lobby and elevator capacity will be a major issue and reason alone to not require people to come in en masse. Entering and leaving the building could take a long time and be a terribly inefficient process. This issue is not unique to my firm. Unofficial word from those close to firm...
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Re: First year disaster  
  by: bwh8813   on: October 18, at 6:21:07 pm   in: Legal Employment
Agreed with everything above. Don't beat yourself up but don't let yourself start missing deadlines because you're in your head about minor mistakes. Also, your friends are definitely making similar mistakes but don't worry about them.
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Re: First year disaster  
  by: RaceJudicata   on: October 18, at 6:17:04 pm   in: Legal Employment
Even if your friends haven’t made this type of mistake yet, they definitely will. Chin up, and buckle down. This doesn’t feel at all like - and almost certainly isn’t - a “disaster”
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Re: Firm reimbursement for cell service  
  by: RaceJudicata   on: October 18, at 6:12:56 pm   in: Legal Employment
This is a typical BYOD program. Your cell phone bill is almost certainly going to cost over $60 (unless you are still on parents plan). I get like $50 or $60 a month, total bill is like $120 or something
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Re: Well, Looks Like My Time is Up  
  by: YA_Tittle   on: October 18, at 5:37:05 pm   in: Legal Employment
Start looking! Even if you're reading the signs wrong somehow, it doesn't sound like an environment you're happy in.
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Re: First year disaster  
  by: Jkcm1977   on: October 18, at 5:36:47 pm   in: Legal Employment
One mistake is not a big deal. What matters is how you recover.



Please try printing out your work product and reading it in physical form. I find it much easier to catch mistakes that way. Or, you can ask your assistant to proofread for you. That has the added benefit of keeping your billable time in check.
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Firm reimbursement for cell service  
  by: nickofdime   on: October 18, at 5:35:04 pm   in: Legal Employment
Hi everyone,



Just joined my firm and was told that they would pay $60 per month for cell service. Does anyone if i can get a new cell phone as well? Any suggestions? Basically would like to get a new iphone (11 or 12) and carrier service within $60. Thanks!
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Re: First year disaster  
  by: 2013   on: October 18, at 5:29:01 pm   in: Legal Employment
You mentioned that you waited until Sunday night to do an assignment that you had to do over the weekend. Lucky for you it’s still the weekend. Don’t be so hard on yourself one week into a new job.
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Re: First year disaster  
  by: Sackboy   on: October 18, at 5:04:56 pm   in: Legal Employment
You're not a failure. All of these things are fairly typical and aren't going to get you booted out of the door. This almost sounds like self-sabotage; you think you're a failure, so you're procrastinating and not proof reading properly to fail and confirm your beliefs. Again, you're not a failure. Just take this job seriously, and you'll do great. Tomorrow is Monday, and it's a new week, so just ...
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First year disaster  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 18, at 4:31:20 pm   in: Legal Employment
I just started this week at a big NYC law firm, V50. We are remote. The very first task I got, I just did the wrong thing. I asked questions, generally thought I understood the assignment, but I actually both (1) didn't really get it and (2) had like 3 dumb typos in just a 4 page double spaced memo. The partner told me that I need to focus on getting things right. I feel like I already blew it my ...
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Re: Well, Looks Like My Time is Up  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 18, at 3:55:26 pm   in: Legal Employment
I don't want to say that OP will or will not get let go for sure, but I do feel like I've had periods like this multiple times throughout my (biglaw) career as a corporate lawyer - a few months very very slow, sub 100 hours, random partners calling me to touch base, OK reviews from some partners, etc., but in the long term things always ended up picking up and I'm in good standing - I feel like s...
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Re: Working from home tips  
  by: Auxilio   on: October 18, at 1:59:03 pm   in: Legal Employment
Has anyone here mounted monitors on their wall? I'm building a desk with three monitors (probably all 27" or 32") and I'd love to get them off the desk. I'd be happy to work with monitor arms but there aren't any good options for 3 monitor monitor arms. That said, I'd probably have to get 3 individual monitor arms and I think that would look silly on the desk. Accordingly, I thought mounting the ...
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Re: Well, Looks Like My Time is Up  
  by: s1m4   on: October 18, at 1:09:12 pm   in: Legal Employment
I don't want to say that OP will or will not get let go for sure, but I do feel like I've had periods like this multiple times throughout my (biglaw) career as a corporate lawyer - a few months very very slow, sub 100 hours, random partners calling me to touch base, OK reviews from some partners, etc., but in the long term things always ended up picking up and I'm in good standing - I feel like so...
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Re: Fall bonuses  
  by: soft blue   on: October 18, at 12:47:27 pm   in: Legal Employment
That doesn't gel to me. If DPW needed more people in finance or bankruptcy, they could just make obscene lateral bonus offers. The checks were about keeping who they have. (This is why I think K&E et al will top off: a lot of people who were on the fence about staying -- midlevels who the firms really want to stay -- may be so disgusted/offended/etc that head for the doors. At least that's the vib...
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Re: 3.85/164  
  by: namefromplace   on: October 18, at 12:42:37 pm   in: What are my chances?
I applied with pretty much identical stats (same LSAT, a higher GPA, but probably worse softs) and got WL'd at every T20 I applied to. This was also applying in a year that was much less competitive. Granted, I did not apply to some of the schools where I may have had better chances (i.e. Cornell), but your odds at a T14 I would say are generally slim. I've been happy at the T40 that offered me a ...
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Re: The "Ask @JoeSeperac" Thread  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 18, at 12:20:25 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I took the UBE in a state that requires a 260 to pass and publishes a "pass" list but physically mails you your score. I was on the pass list, thank goodness, but I need to transfer my score to a state that requires a 270 and won't know for several days if my score is high enough. I'm going crazy. What's the likelihood of someone getting a 260 but not a 270?
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Re: Prediction: When will NYC lawyers return to the office?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 18, at 11:44:59 am   in: Legal Employment
Had a town hall this week at my v10 firm and they are expecting to phase people into the office in January. Does anyone think this will actually happen unless a vaccine is out? No, at least not on a mandatory basis. Imagine the headlines if a young associate dies from the rona because his boomer law firm forced him to ride public transport and come into an office when being indoors with multiple ...
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Re: Honors Attorney Program 2020-2021 (non-DOJ)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 18, at 11:40:01 am   in: Public Interest & Government
Nothing from OCC. I applied a few weeks before the deadline but also heard they review all apps at once.
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Re: Prediction: When will NYC lawyers return to the office?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 18, at 11:30:33 am   in: Legal Employment
Had a town hall this week at my v10 firm and they are expecting to phase people into the office in January. Does anyone think this will actually happen unless a vaccine is out? No, at least not on a mandatory basis. Imagine the headlines if a young associate dies from the rona because his boomer law firm forced him to ride public transport and come into an office when being indoors with multiple ...
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Re: Honors Attorney Program 2020-2021 (non-DOJ)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 18, at 11:17:59 am   in: Public Interest & Government
Is SEC Chairman’s Honors Program still paying at SK pay scale that is higher than GS levels?
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Re: Prediction: When will NYC lawyers return to the office?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 18, at 11:14:31 am   in: Legal Employment
Had a town hall this week at my v10 firm and they are expecting to phase people into the office in January. Does anyone think this will actually happen unless a vaccine is out? No, at least not on a mandatory basis. Imagine the headlines if a young associate dies from the rona because his boomer law firm forced him to ride public transport and come into an office when being indoors with multiple ...
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Re: Prediction: When will NYC lawyers return to the office?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 18, at 10:53:11 am   in: Legal Employment
Had a town hall this week at my v10 firm and they are expecting to phase people into the office in January. Does anyone think this will actually happen unless a vaccine is out? No, at least not on a mandatory basis. Imagine the headlines if a young associate dies from the rona because his boomer law firm forced him to ride public transport and come into an office when being indoors with multiple ...
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Re: Prediction: When will NYC lawyers return to the office?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 18, at 10:43:38 am   in: Legal Employment
Had a town hall this week at my v10 firm and they are expecting to phase people into the office in January. Does anyone think this will actually happen unless a vaccine is out? No, at least not on a mandatory basis. Imagine the headlines if a young associate dies from the rona because his boomer law firm forced him to ride public transport and come into an office when being indoors with multiple ...
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Re: Prediction: When will NYC lawyers return to the office?  
  by: purplegoldtornado   on: October 18, at 10:25:03 am   in: Legal Employment
Predictions for summer associate programs?
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Re: Prediction: When will NYC lawyers return to the office?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 18, at 10:00:12 am   in: Legal Employment
Had a town hall this week at my v10 firm and they are expecting to phase people into the office in January. Does anyone think this will actually happen unless a vaccine is out? No, at least not on a mandatory basis. Imagine the headlines if a young associate dies from the rona because his boomer law firm forced him to ride public transport and come into an office when being indoors with multiple ...
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Re: Prediction: When will NYC lawyers return to the office?  
  by: cisscum   on: October 18, at 9:52:12 am   in: Legal Employment
Had a town hall this week at my v10 firm and they are expecting to phase people into the office in January. Does anyone think this will actually happen unless a vaccine is out? No, at least not on a mandatory basis. Imagine the headlines if a young associate dies from the rona because his boomer law firm forced him to ride public transport and come into an office when being indoors with multiple ...
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Re: Just Landed a Media In-House Role in LA; NYC Corporate Lawyer; AMA  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 18, at 7:35:49 am   in: Legal Employment
I hate to ask this, but could you please give a comp range for this type of role? There is word on this forum that LA-based entertainment/media roles pay less than mid level biglaw positions, so I (and I'm sure many others) am curious about what kind of salary to expect when thinking about planning out a career to ultimately end up at one of these places. Thank you for your time! Just want to chi...
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Re: How to spin getting let go?  
  by: LBJ's Hair   on: October 18, at 7:13:52 am   in: Legal Employment
[quote=Sackboy post_id=10444084 time=1602974882 user_id=202075]
If you're on otherwise good terms with your employer, I would ask if you could tell other employers you were laid off "due to COVID." They very well might say "OK."
[/quote]

agree with this
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Re: How to follow up after the first networking meeting?  
  by: LBJ's Hair   on: October 18, at 7:11:41 am   in: Legal Employment
24-48 hours after you spoke you send an email saying "It was great to talk to you, I appreciate you taking the time, I hope to stay in touch, etc" That's it.



Then if/when you need something down the line you reply to that email with your question.
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Re: Just Landed a Media In-House Role in LA; NYC Corporate Lawyer; AMA  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 18, at 7:06:36 am   in: Legal Employment
Sorry for the delay on this! Been busy packing/tying up loose ends these last couple days. I’m a mid level doing tech trans in the Bay Area. Your experience with M&A having more optionality than tech trans is surprising to me. I regularly check in house positions (thinking about a move to a tech company at some point), and I don’t see how M&A will provide more options, at least for large tech comp...
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Re: Penn Law Professor: Amy Wax  
  by: Dcc617   on: October 18, at 5:09:07 am   in: Legal News/Law Firm Gossip
I know this is an old thread but just wanted to recommend her appearances on Brown U Economist Glen Loury's Blogginghead's show. She goes over very specifically in non-soundbite chunks what her thoughts are. It's straight out of Charles Murray's Bell Curve and she references Murray's current book. She accepts differences in observed IQ scores of racial groups may be a better explanation for diffe...
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Re: Honors Attorney Program 2020-2021 (non-DOJ)  
  by: daleda2021   on: October 18, at 4:31:35 am   in: Public Interest & Government
Has anyone heard anything from the OCC, FDIC, or CBCA?
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Re: Does HYS average your LSAT scores?  
  by: Nd5434   on: October 18, at 4:03:20 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Congrtulations!
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 18, at 3:46:06 am   in: Public Interest & Government
This will be my third time applying. Hoping third time is the charm! Anybody in the same position of applying for third or fourth rounds? Between my first time applying and now I've heard the job changed and I've read the TLS posts. Two attorneys said that it is a fabulous place to train for two years and then apply somewhere new. I'm realistic and I know it's not a good place to spend your entire...
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 18, at 3:44:53 am   in: Public Interest & Government
This will be my third time applying. Hoping third time is the charm! Anybody in the same position of applying for third or fourth rounds? Between my first time applying and now I've heard the job changed and I've read the TLS posts. Two attorneys said that it is a fabulous place to train for two years and then apply somewhere new. I'm realistic and I know it's not a good place to spend your entire...
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Re: Penn Law Professor: Amy Wax  
  by: gekko   on: October 17, at 8:12:44 pm   in: Legal News/Law Firm Gossip
I know this is an old thread but just wanted to recommend her appearances on Brown U Economist Glen Loury's Blogginghead's show. She goes over very specifically in non-soundbite chunks what her thoughts are. It's straight out of Charles Murray's Bell Curve and she references Murray's current book. She accepts differences in observed IQ scores of racial groups may be a better explanation for differ...
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Re: How to spin getting let go?  
  by: gekko   on: October 17, at 7:52:16 pm   in: Legal Employment
You were laid of "during covid after being kept on x months during which time the firm let go of y people." If you say during rather than due to, I seriously doubt anyone is going to question that phrase.
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Re: Public Defender Applications - 2021  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 17, at 5:09:41 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
For EJW interviews, should we treat them as informational interviews or should we brush up on substantive law/be prepared to deliver an opening statement? I know this largely depends on each office for panel interviews but not sure if the same is the case for EJW. I'm interested in Texas RioGrande/Hamilton County/Bronx/Miami-Dade primarily. Any insight is greatly appreciated! I don't know of any ...
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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 17, at 5:05:52 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Also for lurkers, per my friend who is going there in January, New Hampshire also ended up being able to bring everyone on, with a couple of months' delay (similar to Miami, it sounds like).
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Re: Does HYS average your LSAT scores?  
  by: Pneumonia   on: October 17, at 3:01:49 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
[quote=Hollynan post_id=10444082 time=1602971239 user_id=204998]
Additionally, are you disadvantaged when you take the test 3 times? I was in the high 160s twice, and got a 175+ on my third take. Will they only really care about the 175+? thank
[/quote]
It might be factor at Yale, where review involves professors as well as adcoms, but it won't matter at all for H/S.
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Re: Does HYS average your LSAT scores?  
  by: crazywafflez   on: October 17, at 1:34:27 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
They don't average, they won't care. Congrats on the great score!
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Re: How to spin getting let go?  
  by: Sackboy   on: October 17, at 12:48:02 pm   in: Legal Employment
If you're on otherwise good terms with your employer, I would ask if you could tell other employers you were laid off "due to COVID." They very well might say "OK."
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Does HYS average your LSAT scores?  
  by: Hollynan   on: October 17, at 11:47:19 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Additionally, are you disadvantaged when you take the test 3 times? I was in the high 160s twice, and got a 175+ on my third take. Will they only really care about the 175+? thank
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Re: Military Law  
  by: mjberry1   on: October 17, at 11:42:16 am   in: Public Interest & Government
I am applying to an NG JAG slot. I have passed the bar and been admitted in my state, so I have my certificate of good standing. The application requirements provide under Tab 11 that, in addition to the "Statement From the Clerk of the Highest Court," all applicants must submit a "Bar Examination Memorandum." "The certification of bar examination memo is a new requirement that must be completed f...
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How to spin getting let go?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 17, at 11:04:07 am   in: Legal Employment
I work at a small NYC firm, and was recently told that I was being let go for not meeting expectations. My underperformance was a result of a number of factors, but I've identified what I need to work on for my next job. They're keeping me on until the end of the year, and I hope I can find another job before then, but in the event that I don't--how do I tell interviewers that I was fired? Obvious...
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Re: Adaptibar Discount Code?  
  by: anp337   on: October 17, at 10:36:45 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Can someone please send me a discount code for Adaptibar? Thanks
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Re: Well, Looks Like My Time is Up  
  by: RaceJudicata   on: October 17, at 10:26:03 am   in: Legal Employment
I agree you should leave ASAP. Keep your eye on the drop-dead date after which you legally accrue a bonus by virtue of your class year and hours. I know of situations where the firm fired the associate right before that date, to avoid paying the bonus. Also, this website time thing is pure fraud, at least in spirit. It's meant to deceive others into thinking you work at a place where you do not w...
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 17, at 10:01:10 am   in: Public Interest & Government
1. Does anyone have any idea how many trademark examiners is the USPTO looking to hire this cycle?

2. Does it make sense to apply for the entry level and experienced positions at the same time (for someone with less than 5 years of trademark experience?)

3. Are these positions open to the public or just to former/existing government employees? The posting are quite confusing.

Thanks
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Re: NY 1st Department Admissions  
  by: Lancair   on: October 17, at 8:08:54 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Got an email saying my admission ceremony is going to be Nov 9. Huge relief. No mention of an interview or the requirement being waived, so not sure if that’ll happen before then.
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Re: Prediction: When will NYC lawyers return to the office?  
  by: TatteredDignity   on: October 17, at 7:30:59 am   in: Legal Employment
Had a town hall this week at my v10 firm and they are expecting to phase people into the office in January. Does anyone think this will actually happen unless a vaccine is out? No, at least not on a mandatory basis. Imagine the headlines if a young associate dies from the rona because his boomer law firm forced him to ride public transport and come into an office when being indoors with multiple ...
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Re: Well, Looks Like My Time is Up  
  by: plantcoveredbuilding   on: October 17, at 7:30:49 am   in: Legal Employment
I agree you should leave ASAP. Keep your eye on the drop-dead date after which you legally accrue a bonus by virtue of your class year and hours. I know of situations where the firm fired the associate right before that date, to avoid paying the bonus. Also, this website time thing is pure fraud, at least in spirit. It's meant to deceive others into thinking you work at a place where you do not wo...
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Re: Well, Looks Like My Time is Up  
  by: nixy   on: October 17, at 7:02:47 am   in: Legal Employment
Probably because plenty of people do lateral voluntarily and are genuinely on the website as currently working at (wherever), so you can’t say which one it is in any given situation.
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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 17, at 6:57:53 am   in: Public Interest & Government
Has anyone heard about LAS 2021 first round interviews?
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Re: Pre-OCI 2020  
  by: basketofbread   on: October 17, at 6:56:56 am   in: Legal Employment
Managing partner at V20 here. I just want to say that if I were to catch even a whiff that someone who received an offer at my firm had revealed that information on this website, I would immediately rescind the offer. Unfortunately for me, your op-sec is impenetrable. But just know that I’m watching and waiting. If you slip up, by say, identifying my firm within a range of 50 Vault placements, I ...
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Re: Honors Attorney Program 2020-2021 (non-DOJ)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 17, at 6:45:40 am   in: Public Interest & Government
Has anyone heard anything from the FCC or the DOL in DC?
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Re: Well, Looks Like My Time is Up  
  by: MarkmanPapers   on: October 17, at 6:39:01 am   in: Legal Employment
What is "website time" and what does it refer to?? New here. It's when a law firm agrees to leave your bio page up on their website for some period of time after they fire you. It helps you find another job because potential employers will see it when they google you (allowing you to avoid gap in employment questions and to control the narrative of why you want to leave your law firm during your ...
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Re: Pre-OCI 2020  
  by: lawapplicant2022   on: October 17, at 6:26:26 am   in: Legal Employment
Managing partner at V20 here. I just want to say that if I were to catch even a whiff that someone who received an offer at my firm had revealed that information on this website, I would immediately rescind the offer. Unfortunately for me, your op-sec is impenetrable. But just know that I’m watching and waiting. If you slip up, by say, identifying my firm within a range of 50 Vault placements, I ...
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Re: Prediction: When will NYC lawyers return to the office?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 17, at 5:52:25 am   in: Legal Employment
Had a town hall this week at my v10 firm and they are expecting to phase people into the office in January. Does anyone think this will actually happen unless a vaccine is out? No, at least not on a mandatory basis. Imagine the headlines if a young associate dies from the rona because his boomer law firm forced him to ride public transport and come into an office when being indoors with multiple ...
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Re: Well, Looks Like My Time is Up  
  by: 4LTsPointingNorth   on: October 17, at 5:51:00 am   in: Legal Employment
What is "website time" and what does it refer to?? New here. It's when a law firm agrees to leave your bio page up on their website for some period of time after they fire you. It helps you find another job because potential employers will see it when they google you (allowing you to avoid gap in employment questions and to control the narrative of why you want to leave your law firm during your ...
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Re: Well, Looks Like My Time is Up  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 17, at 5:25:18 am   in: Legal Employment
What is "website time" and what does it refer to?? New here.
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Re: Pre-OCI 2020  
  by: basketofbread   on: October 17, at 4:29:01 am   in: Legal Employment
Managing partner at V20 here. I just want to say that if I were to catch even a whiff that someone who received an offer at my firm had revealed that information on this website, I would immediately rescind the offer. Unfortunately for me, your op-sec is impenetrable. But just know that I’m watching and waiting. If you slip up, by say, identifying my firm within a range of 50 Vault placements, I w...
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Re: Honors Attorney Program 2020-2021 (non-DOJ)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 17, at 4:09:30 am   in: Public Interest & Government
Also got the DOT 2nd round invites this week. Separate emails from 2 attorneys, one wanted to schedule before 10/29, the other before 10/23 so I'm not too sure what the timeline is. Definitely seems like they want to wrap them all up by the end of October, in any case.
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Re: 3.85/164  
  by: The Lsat Airbender   on: October 17, at 4:04:55 am   in: What are my chances?
Depends on LSAT, but anywhere in the 163-166 band is going to be tough for the T14. 167 starts to open the door slightly, but still not great.



What are your goals for the law degree? That's the main driver behind where you should apply.
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Re: 3.85/165  
  by: crazywafflez   on: October 17, at 3:11:38 am   in: What are my chances?
Hey, You are in the right place! But also take a look at mylsn and plug your numbers in and see how other folks have done. Your GPA is good- I'm not sure what weight they'll give you for big top 5% of your T5 class, I'm sure it'll be a slight boost. But they'd be just as happy taking someone with a 4.0 from Ole Miss as they would a Stanford grad with a 3.8 (I'm not fully sure on this at all, so ta...
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Re: Pre-OCI 2020  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 16, at 4:59:25 pm   in: Legal Employment
I go to a T30. Multiple people in my class have begun interviewing at V20s in Chicago, NYC, and DC. Offers have also already gone out (some have posted on LinkedIn that they've accepted an offer).
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How to follow up after the first networking meeting?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 16, at 3:57:06 pm   in: Legal Employment
Thank you very much in advance. After having the first networking meeting or phone call, I can't think of any excuse to contact those people again. I don't have any problem initiating the contact, but I have a hard time maintaining the relations. Is it appropriate to send an article to a senior associate or partner? Do they really need that from a student, junior? What else can I say to them after...
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Re: The "Ask @JoeSeperac" Thread  
  by: JoeSeperac   on: October 16, at 3:03:18 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Hi Joe Any idea or predictions on how the remote exams (100 MCQ 3 MEE 1 MPTs) will be scaled/graded? do you think states like IL will try to equate the score to July ube averages? And when will scores be released? You ask an interesting question. It has taken an average of 88 days for NY to release July results (based on data from 2016-2019). Since there are half as many written items to grade an...
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Re: The "Ask @JoeSeperac" Thread  
  by: JoeSeperac   on: October 16, at 2:42:56 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Hi Joe Any idea or predictions on how the remote exams (100 MCQ 3 MEE 1 MPTs) will be scaled/graded? do you think states like IL will try to equate the score to July ube averages? I haven't a clue and I am guessing the bar examiners aren't looking forward to it due to its unreliability. First, a quick primer on reliability. Reliability is the consistency or repeatability of the scores produced by...
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Re: Prediction: When will NYC lawyers return to the office?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: October 16, at 2:21:52 pm   in: Legal Employment
Had a town hall this week at my v10 firm and they are expecting to phase people into the office in January. Does anyone think this will actually happen unless a vaccine is out? No, at least not on a mandatory basis. Imagine the headlines if a young associate dies from the rona because his boomer law firm forced him to ride public transport and come into an office when being indoors with multiple ...
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Patrick Bateman   on: October 16, at 2:06:12 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
So glad I am Army. There is a huge pay difference between 2LT and CPT. :shock: (3287 vs 4383 - what AF who started the same time I did are making, vs Army right now on base pay) I thought Army JAG officers were on a similar timeline. Don't you start as an O-2, and then promote to O-3 in about 6 months? The longer timeline I described above is for regular officers coming into the Air Force. Air Fo...
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