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- soullesswonder
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Medical Malpractice?
Does anyone have any knowledge about medical malpractice? Is this typically done in a boutique setting? Do lawyers specialize in malpractice, or do they have a broader focus on health care or general litigation?
- 123xalady
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called ambulance chasers, often unscrupulous poppets. Grouped together they are pretty powerful peeps- controlling the democratssoullesswonder wrote:Does anyone have any knowledge about medical malpractice? Is this typically done in a boutique setting? Do lawyers specialize in malpractice, or do they have a broader focus on health care or general litigation?

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John Edwards was a medical malpractice attorney. This is what happens to you.
- soullesswonder
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ambulance chasers are chasing victims of auto accidents, not victims of malpractice.123xalady wrote:called ambulance chasers, often unscrupulous poppets. Grouped together they are pretty powerful peeps- controlling the democratssoullesswonder wrote:Does anyone have any knowledge about medical malpractice? Is this typically done in a boutique setting? Do lawyers specialize in malpractice, or do they have a broader focus on health care or general litigation?
Any actual information to share?
- SteelReserve
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I'm not sure I've ever heard of a firm dedicated solely to med mal. Instead, it will be a subset of a personal injury firm generally. PI firms tend to be smaller, with mostly partners and fewer associates. A "big" PI firm could be 20 lawyers total. PI associates are paid very little, but eventually get the chance to either be Partner or bring in a % of what they make in contingencies.Does anyone have any knowledge about medical malpractice? Is this typically done in a boutique setting? Do lawyers specialize in malpractice, or do they have a broader focus on health care or general litigation?
As far as the ambulance chaser remarks, you will need to get used to that stereotype. What many fail to realize is that plenty of biglaw associates slave away and dedicate their every limited breath on earth to defending tortfeasor corporate entities. In reality, there are sleazy people on both sides of the Plaintiff/Defendant divide.
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- SamSeaborn2016
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I don't think I've seen any big firms that focus specifically on medical mal. for victims but I did notice that many of the firms I found with health law groups did seem to focus on medical malpractice defense or medical IP. I imagine the door can swing both ways.SteelReserve wrote:I'm not sure I've ever heard of a firm dedicated solely to med mal. Instead, it will be a subset of a personal injury firm generally. PI firms tend to be smaller, with mostly partners and fewer associates. A "big" PI firm could be 20 lawyers total. PI associates are paid very little, but eventually get the chance to either be Partner or bring in a % of what they make in contingencies.Does anyone have any knowledge about medical malpractice? Is this typically done in a boutique setting? Do lawyers specialize in malpractice, or do they have a broader focus on health care or general litigation?
As far as the ambulance chaser remarks, you will need to get used to that stereotype. What many fail to realize is that plenty of biglaw associates slave away and dedicate their every limited breath on earth to defending tortfeasor corporate entities. In reality, there are sleazy people on both sides of the Plaintiff/Defendant divide.
- nealric
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It's a dying field in some states (Texas comes to mind). Low damage caps and minimum # of experts required before you can even file suit. If it comes to your state, tort reform could essentially kill your career in one fell swoop.
It also tends to be very capital intensive because you often have to front the cash for experts.
It also tends to be very capital intensive because you often have to front the cash for experts.
Nah, there are definitely medmal firms out there (although it may depend on how plaintiff friendly the state is).I'm not sure I've ever heard of a firm dedicated solely to med mal.
- 123xalady
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its a moniker- not intended to be taken literally- and also a prevalent stereotype. Google "defensive medicine" and then "liability reform" and you should find a lot of answers.soullesswonder wrote:ambulance chasers are chasing victims of auto accidents, not victims of malpractice.123xalady wrote:called ambulance chasers, often unscrupulous poppets. Grouped together they are pretty powerful peeps- controlling the democratssoullesswonder wrote:Does anyone have any knowledge about medical malpractice? Is this typically done in a boutique setting? Do lawyers specialize in malpractice, or do they have a broader focus on health care or general litigation?
Any actual information to share?
- soullesswonder
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Texas still has the same number of payouts as they did before the caps - they just don't have the big paydays. Frivolous lawsuits, however, have been cut significantly.nealric wrote:It's a dying field in some states (Texas comes to mind). Low damage caps and minimum # of experts required before you can even file suit. If it comes to your state, tort reform could essentially kill your career in one fell swoop.
It also tends to be very capital intensive because you often have to front the cash for experts.
Nah, there are definitely medmal firms out there (although it may depend on how plaintiff friendly the state is).I'm not sure I've ever heard of a firm dedicated solely to med mal.
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/355/7/734-a
EDIT: FWIW, I'd prefer to work on the defense side of these cases, with an eye towards possibly moving into hospital legal counsel.
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I believe that most lawyers who do med-mal work tend to specialize in that field, and most who do so will tend to specialize in either plaintiff or defense work. I know one attorney whose practice consists of med-mal defense and legal malpractice defense.
In California, where there is a cap on some damages, ( pain and suffering awards are limited to $250k ) there are still large awards for lost wages, injury, loss of consortium, etc. Some lawyers specialize in a particular type of injury ( e.g. neonatal injuries ).
One unsavory element to the field involves nuisance suits that are settled for $29,999, because in California, any pre-trial settlement below $30 k doesn't need to be reported and made public, and it's easier and cheaper for the defense to settle for that amount than to go to trial. Some lawyers seem to specialize in these small suits. Of course, that's not to say that some lawsuits aren't justified.
Why not ask around for someone in your area who does the kind of work you're interested in
( i.e. plaintiff or defense ) and ask them about their field. If all else fails, try the yellow pages.
In California, where there is a cap on some damages, ( pain and suffering awards are limited to $250k ) there are still large awards for lost wages, injury, loss of consortium, etc. Some lawyers specialize in a particular type of injury ( e.g. neonatal injuries ).
One unsavory element to the field involves nuisance suits that are settled for $29,999, because in California, any pre-trial settlement below $30 k doesn't need to be reported and made public, and it's easier and cheaper for the defense to settle for that amount than to go to trial. Some lawyers seem to specialize in these small suits. Of course, that's not to say that some lawsuits aren't justified.
Why not ask around for someone in your area who does the kind of work you're interested in
( i.e. plaintiff or defense ) and ask them about their field. If all else fails, try the yellow pages.
- pany1985
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I've heard it's very difficult to get started in that field, since the cases are so expensive (tons of discovery, expert witnesses, etc.) and you're just losing loads of your own money until you finally win the case (assuming that you will eventually win the case).
- nealric
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Right- which means the $$$ going to medmal attorneys has shrunk significantly.
Texas still has the same number of payouts as they did before the caps - they just don't have the big paydays.
Yep, they LOVE anything having to do with infants. Damages are huge if someone has an entire life to live, and juries are always sympathetic towards babies. This is why ob/gyn medmal insurance is through the roof.Some lawyers specialize in a particular type of injury ( e.g. neonatal injuries ).
It seems most medmal cases of any significance come down to a battle of the experts. Not my cup of tea, but I guess whatever floats your boat.
- RonSantoRules
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Attended a panel on this the other day (health law panel). General consensus was that most health law lawyers that are general counsel at non-profit or for-profit hospital work as transactional lawyers in firms before moving over to work for hospitals. Not sure if Med Mal is the way to go if that is what you want to do.
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You do realize most medical malpractice is complete BS and a large part of the reason healthcare is so expensive? I question your motives, perhaps unfairly, when someone asks about things like this.
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I know that a med mal lawyer lives up the street from me...he has two s550's another mercedes, and people come to his house to wash his cars...
inspires me to be a lawyer everyday
inspires me to be a lawyer everyday
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Also, if you are looking at general counsel type of jobs, medmal probably isn't the best area. Health law is a vast area of the law that covers everything from medicare and medicaid fraud to HIPAA, STARK law and anti-trust. Any medmal issue that arises at the hospital level is going to be farmed out to a boutique firm, the issues handled by in house counsel is going to be more on the transactional side (medicare/medicaid payments, Stark and anti-kickback laws, HIPAA, anti-trust, and other corporate law type matters).
- NayBoer
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I have limited experience to share. Used to work at a midlaw firm (~80 attorneys) that had a health law practice group. They had the newest offices and equipment in the firm. Represented insurance companies and the like, so pretty strictly defense-side. I've also worked in my current job on cases for a firm (~200 attorneys) with a medical defense practice group. Both are "full service" midlaw type firms in secondary markets (large Western cities, but not LA or SF). Neither is remotely a boutique; could not tell you if this is representative of the larger market.
From what I can tell, it's just a specialized subset of litigation. Although expertise in health is not uncommon from what I've seen (e.g. nurses becoming lawyers) it doesn't seem to be at all an industry requirement. I'm pretty sure that the practice groups had enough work to keep busy and didn't have to dip into general litigation or other practice areas; they seem to both stick with medical defense.
I couldn't tell you how specialized they get, but it seems like from their respective websites one of the groups exclusively handles medical negligence and the other covers a lot of the business/transaction/regulatory work as well as litigation.
From what I can tell, it's just a specialized subset of litigation. Although expertise in health is not uncommon from what I've seen (e.g. nurses becoming lawyers) it doesn't seem to be at all an industry requirement. I'm pretty sure that the practice groups had enough work to keep busy and didn't have to dip into general litigation or other practice areas; they seem to both stick with medical defense.
I couldn't tell you how specialized they get, but it seems like from their respective websites one of the groups exclusively handles medical negligence and the other covers a lot of the business/transaction/regulatory work as well as litigation.
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