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173, foreign degree so no GPA but have a Masters
I'm not really sure how to convert my UK degrees into the Grade Point System, but I did alright, not outstanding but alright on my BA and my MA in the UK (got a 2.1 and a merit respectively). Went to a russel group-but-not-oxbridge uni.
I've been out of Uni for a few years (I'm 27 [and a half!]) and have done some pretty impressive work in human rights focused NGOs around the world (the Middle East, Latin America, worked for the UN for a little bit, and then did a spell as a risk analyst in the City in London). I've had stuff published in books and online, I'm a pretty decent writer and am pretty satisfied with my PS (I've had weird jobs and a weird international upbringing so I had plenty to write about). Got a couple of languages.
My LSAT is good without being jawdropping (173).
I'm not sure whether my foreignness is a boon or a hindrance, particularly with regard to my lack of clear GPA, particularly in regard to HYS. Anyone with any insight to the matter would be much appreciated. Cheers.
I've been out of Uni for a few years (I'm 27 [and a half!]) and have done some pretty impressive work in human rights focused NGOs around the world (the Middle East, Latin America, worked for the UN for a little bit, and then did a spell as a risk analyst in the City in London). I've had stuff published in books and online, I'm a pretty decent writer and am pretty satisfied with my PS (I've had weird jobs and a weird international upbringing so I had plenty to write about). Got a couple of languages.
My LSAT is good without being jawdropping (173).
I'm not sure whether my foreignness is a boon or a hindrance, particularly with regard to my lack of clear GPA, particularly in regard to HYS. Anyone with any insight to the matter would be much appreciated. Cheers.
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Re: 173, foreign degree so no GPA but have a Masters
So a 2.1 will not get you a superior grading score by the LSAC. Congrats on the strong LSAT, but unfortunately you will not get into HYS. You may have a shot at Chicago/Columbia, but that is also unlikely. The schools I imagine that will take a shot at you will be Penn, UVA, Duke, Michigan. I don't think you will get into all of those, but you will probably get a couple. Sorry to break the bad news. If you had a first, then H is in play, but unfortunately thats not the case.
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Re: 173, foreign degree so no GPA but have a Masters
Yeah, thats what I figured. Booo. Cheers mate.
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Re: 173, foreign degree so no GPA but have a Masters
Sorry for that. But I like a place like UVA or Duke will accept you and these are still world renowned law schools. But also consider what you would get a US law degree for? Unless you have dual citizenship it isn't very easy to find a job here that will help with sponsorship and if you wanna practice in the uk a JD doesn't help you much either.
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Re: 173, foreign degree so no GPA but have a Masters
Someone on TLS got into HLS with a 2:1 and a 172 with similar softs to OP, so I wouldn't say H is a complete no, might as well apply and see how it goes. Y/S is likely out of the question tho.grades?? wrote:So a 2.1 will not get you a superior grading score by the LSAC. Congrats on the strong LSAT, but unfortunately you will not get into HYS. You may have a shot at Chicago/Columbia, but that is also unlikely. The schools I imagine that will take a shot at you will be Penn, UVA, Duke, Michigan. I don't think you will get into all of those, but you will probably get a couple. Sorry to break the bad news. If you had a first, then H is in play, but unfortunately thats not the case.
Chances for CCN don't look bad, OP should have a decent shot at getting in to 1 or 2 of them.
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Re: 173, foreign degree so no GPA but have a Masters
Yeah but if I remember that person they were oxbridge. I think that makes a real difference here unfortunately.galeatus wrote:Someone on TLS got into HLS with a 2:1 and a 172 with similar softs to OP, so I wouldn't say H is a complete no, might as well apply and see how it goes. Y/S is likely out of the question tho.grades?? wrote:So a 2.1 will not get you a superior grading score by the LSAC. Congrats on the strong LSAT, but unfortunately you will not get into HYS. You may have a shot at Chicago/Columbia, but that is also unlikely. The schools I imagine that will take a shot at you will be Penn, UVA, Duke, Michigan. I don't think you will get into all of those, but you will probably get a couple. Sorry to break the bad news. If you had a first, then H is in play, but unfortunately thats not the case.
Chances for CCN don't look bad, OP should have a decent shot at getting in to 1 or 2 of them.
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Re: 173, foreign degree so no GPA but have a Masters
Yeah it might do, but 173 seems to be on the WL line for H for Internationals in general (source: 14-15 International Spreadsheet) and it could go both ways, so I do think OP shouldn't completely write-off H as of yet.grades?? wrote:Yeah but if I remember that person they were oxbridge. I think that makes a real difference here unfortunately.galeatus wrote:Someone on TLS got into HLS with a 2:1 and a 172 with similar softs to OP, so I wouldn't say H is a complete no, might as well apply and see how it goes. Y/S is likely out of the question tho.grades?? wrote:So a 2.1 will not get you a superior grading score by the LSAC. Congrats on the strong LSAT, but unfortunately you will not get into HYS. You may have a shot at Chicago/Columbia, but that is also unlikely. The schools I imagine that will take a shot at you will be Penn, UVA, Duke, Michigan. I don't think you will get into all of those, but you will probably get a couple. Sorry to break the bad news. If you had a first, then H is in play, but unfortunately thats not the case.
Chances for CCN don't look bad, OP should have a decent shot at getting in to 1 or 2 of them.
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Re: 173, foreign degree so no GPA but have a Masters
Yeah but I wouldn't consider it even 25% I think. The difference between a 2.1 at oxbridge and say Bristol or Glasgow will be huge.galeatus wrote:Yeah it might do, but 173 seems to be on the WL line for H for Internationals in general (source: 14-15 International Spreadsheet) and it could go both ways, so I do think OP shouldn't completely write-off H as of yet.grades?? wrote:Yeah but if I remember that person they were oxbridge. I think that makes a real difference here unfortunately.galeatus wrote:Someone on TLS got into HLS with a 2:1 and a 172 with similar softs to OP, so I wouldn't say H is a complete no, might as well apply and see how it goes. Y/S is likely out of the question tho.grades?? wrote:So a 2.1 will not get you a superior grading score by the LSAC. Congrats on the strong LSAT, but unfortunately you will not get into HYS. You may have a shot at Chicago/Columbia, but that is also unlikely. The schools I imagine that will take a shot at you will be Penn, UVA, Duke, Michigan. I don't think you will get into all of those, but you will probably get a couple. Sorry to break the bad news. If you had a first, then H is in play, but unfortunately thats not the case.
Chances for CCN don't look bad, OP should have a decent shot at getting in to 1 or 2 of them.