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170 LSAT, 3.97 GPA - where to apply?

Post by slizerd » Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:21 am

Hey all, so my numbers aren't that terrible, but I don't want to go to law school without a full ride. I know that eliminates a lot of top choices, so should I retake in Dec? Or would that be too late in the cycle for schollys anyway?
Without retaking, what T50 schools would be my best shot for a full ride?

Some info:
Not a URM, but I'm Persian and can write a DS on that
From Cleveland, and would like to end up back in/near the area
I have a master's degree in a lib arts field, so that's a soft factor.
No huge preference as of yet for the type of law I'd like to practice, but I am interested in family law/wills and estates/immigration law.

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Post by irishballa » Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:33 am

ED Northwestern.

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Post by Mack.Hambleton » Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:37 am

Retake in dec. ED NU is a good strategy too.

You shouldn't have to go lower than T14 with those stats to get big money

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Post by slizerd » Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:43 am

Mack.Hambleton wrote:Retake in dec. ED NU is a good strategy too.

You shouldn't have to go lower than T14 with those stats to get big money
NU's ED program is close to full $, but it doesn't completely cover it. They suggest having apps in for ED by Nov 15th, but one of my recommendations isn't coming in til the 25th (damn professors and their busy schedules)

I'd LOVE to get $$$ at UMich or Penn

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Post by 052220152 » Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:58 am

slizerd wrote:
Mack.Hambleton wrote:Retake in dec. ED NU is a good strategy too.

You shouldn't have to go lower than T14 with those stats to get big money
NU's ED program is close to full $, but it doesn't completely cover it. They suggest having apps in for ED by Nov 15th, but one of my recommendations isn't coming in til the 25th (damn professors and their busy schedules)

I'd LOVE to get $$$ at UMich or Penn
with those numbers youd be in contention for the darrow at mich

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Re: 170 LSAT, 3.97 GPA - where to apply?

Post by Hikikomorist » Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:25 pm

Jim Jones wrote:
slizerd wrote:
Mack.Hambleton wrote:Retake in dec. ED NU is a good strategy too.

You shouldn't have to go lower than T14 with those stats to get big money
NU's ED program is close to full $, but it doesn't completely cover it. They suggest having apps in for ED by Nov 15th, but one of my recommendations isn't coming in til the 25th (damn professors and their busy schedules)

I'd LOVE to get $$$ at UMich or Penn
with those numbers youd be in contention for the darrow at mich
And people with worse numbers were being awarded Dillards last cycle.

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Re: 170 LSAT, 3.97 GPA - where to apply?

Post by slizerd » Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:27 pm

Hikkomorist wrote:
Jim Jones wrote:
slizerd wrote:
Mack.Hambleton wrote:Retake in dec. ED NU is a good strategy too.

You shouldn't have to go lower than T14 with those stats to get big money
NU's ED program is close to full $, but it doesn't completely cover it. They suggest having apps in for ED by Nov 15th, but one of my recommendations isn't coming in til the 25th (damn professors and their busy schedules)

I'd LOVE to get $$$ at UMich or Penn
with those numbers youd be in contention for the darrow at mich
And people with worse numbers were being awarded Dillards last cycle.
Really?? It seemed like no one under 173 would even be considered. That raises my hopes a lot!!

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Post by 052220152 » Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:40 pm

slizerd wrote:
Mack.Hambleton wrote:Retake in dec. ED NU is a good strategy too.

You shouldn't have to go lower than T14 with those stats to get big money
NU's ED program is close to full $, but it doesn't completely cover it. They suggest having apps in for ED by Nov 15th, but one of my recommendations isn't coming in til the 25th (damn professors and their busy schedules)

I'd LOVE to get $$$ at UMich or Penn
email them. tell them that you can have all of your materials in before the 15th, but that you're waiting on one last professor. Or, email the professor and tell him that you're in contention for a $150k scholarship, but the deadline is 11/15.

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Post by CanadianWolf » Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:55 pm

OP: Apply to Penn, Duke, Virginia, Michigan, Northwestern, Cornell. Also, if you can qualify for significant financial aid, try Harvard.

Any non-T-14 law school is likely to offer substantial scholarship money if you are offered admission.

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Post by slizerd » Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:25 pm

CanadianWolf wrote:OP: Apply to Penn, Duke, Virginia, Michigan, Northwestern, Cornell. Also, if you can qualify for significant financial aid, try Harvard.

Any non-T-14 law school is likely to offer substantial scholarship money if you are offered admission.
Thank you! I really wasn't sure if I would have a realistic chance for $ at any of those.

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Post by JustMe83 » Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:02 pm

I know it's tempting to throw an app at a binding ED program like this but you've really got to trust that going through the full cycle is the best course of action. There are better outcomes to be had than 150k at NU (though it's still a great one) and you'll have no chance to know what you would have gotten if you take an ED offer. The odds of not getting an equivalent offer from another T14 are very small, and there's a good chance (I think) that NU might give you 150k with an RD app

Keep in mind also that 150k =/= a full ride. When you factor in rising tuition you could still be on the hook for 30k + tuition over three years. I took basically a full ride at a different lower T14 (minus a couple thousand) with very similar numbers, and it is nice to not have to fork over another 5k per semester for tuition, just something to consider.

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Post by Mack.Hambleton » Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:09 pm

JustMe83 wrote:I know it's tempting to throw an app at a binding ED program like this but you've really got to trust that going through the full cycle is the best course of action. There are better outcomes to be had than 150k at NU (though it's still a great one) and you'll have no chance to know what you would have gotten if you take an ED offer. The odds of not getting an equivalent offer from another T14 are very small, and there's a good chance (I think) that NU might give you 150k with an RD app

Keep in mind also that 150k =/= a full ride. When you factor in rising tuition you could still be on the hook for 30k + tuition over three years. I took basically a full ride at a different lower T14 (minus a couple thousand) with very similar numbers, and it is nice to not have to fork over another 5k per semester for tuition, just something to consider.
With just a 170?

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Post by slizerd » Sun Oct 25, 2015 11:09 pm

JustMe83 wrote:I know it's tempting to throw an app at a binding ED program like this but you've really got to trust that going through the full cycle is the best course of action. There are better outcomes to be had than 150k at NU (though it's still a great one) and you'll have no chance to know what you would have gotten if you take an ED offer. The odds of not getting an equivalent offer from another T14 are very small, and there's a good chance (I think) that NU might give you 150k with an RD app

Keep in mind also that 150k =/= a full ride. When you factor in rising tuition you could still be on the hook for 30k + tuition over three years. I took basically a full ride at a different lower T14 (minus a couple thousand) with very similar numbers, and it is nice to not have to fork over another 5k per semester for tuition, just something to consider.
That's amazing! Would you mind sharing your stats/where you ended up?

ED does make me really nervous, I'd hate feeling trapped and being stuck with that what if feeling

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