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[Brentwood]

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[Foghornleghorn]

Apply early. You're looking at big money from the lower T-14

[PoopNpants]

According to Mylsn Columbia/NYU should be a go for sure. Big money at Lower T14 too. I wouldn't hold my breath re: Harvard tho

[CanadianWolf]

Apply across the T-14 & see what happens. Hopefully, applications will be down during the upcoming cycle.
Without more information, it seems that a primary concern should be on scholarship offers within the T-14. For example, if targeting NYC biglaw, would you rather a full tuition scholarship to Penn or Cornell versus paying sticker at Harvard ?

[Mack.Hambleton]

Probably below Harvard's gpa floor. CCN is almost definitely gonna happen but with little money so I'd take which ever lower T14 throw you big money

[CanadianWolf]

Agree that OP's GPA is probably below Harvard's floor, I was just trying to put a different emphasis & perspective on OP's application cycle because OP seemed overly focused on the T-6 when he or she is likely to get a few full tuition scholarship offers from among the lower T-14.

[Man from Nantucket]

This was basically me, was in at NYU and accepted ED at NU.

[Mack.Hambleton]

Ya ED NW would be a good idea if you want a sure 150k

[Tiago Splitter]

Had similar numbers a few years ago. Regret not EDing NU. No guarantee you'll get it but it's your best option if you do so no reason not to give it a shot.

[Brentwood]

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[Tiago Splitter]

You should get in to both CLS and NYU with relative ease. Penn will be tougher because they tend to yield protect people with numbers like yours, so make sure to write their optional essays and show as much interest as you can if you want them to be an option. In the end though you're likely to end up at CLS/NYU.

[CanadianWolf]

Read the TLS law school profiles for some interesting information. Columbia states that ED doesn't help whereas NYU implies that it does. Also, NYU shares that it averages multiple LSAT scores as of July, 2014, but many TLS posters doubt that this is accurate. So NYU looks like your best bet for an ED application. In some situations, applicants can apply ED to two law schools if the first rejects or holds over the applicant very quickly (within the time limit to ED the second school).

[Broncos15]

In this day of decreased apps, I'd at least throw an app at H......unlike but not unreasonable to do so. I've heard the unofficial GPA floor at H was a 3.6 but I have seen some non URM 3.5X's get in there.

I wouldn't want to "what if" myself over not applying but that's just me

[Brentwood]

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[Clemenceau]

Thanks a lot for your responses everybody. This has been very insightful. Looking down the list a little further, can anyone advise on UVA/Duke/GULC with regard to NYC biglaw? Are they roughly similar in terms of those specific employment ops? I tried searching around for this, but didn't find much. Thanks in advance!

Uva and duke are comparable for NYC biglaw. Both are better than gulc

[Ron Howard]

Thanks a lot for your responses everybody. This has been very insightful. Looking down the list a little further, can anyone advise on UVA/Duke/GULC with regard to NYC biglaw? Are they roughly similar in terms of those specific employment ops? I tried searching around for this, but didn't find much. Thanks in advance!

I would avoid GLUC if you want Biglaw. The other two are better. Duke sends more people to NYC than UVA does, and UVA sends more people to DC than Duke does. Having said that, I doubt Duke has as any real sort of leg up over UVA in actually getting someone to NYC; they are peers. I would pick between the two based on cost and personal preference, not on who currently sends more people to NYC.

[Brentwood]

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[SplitMyPants]

I had similar numbers last cycle and got into Columbia and NYU and got a JS1. It's just one data point, but it's worth checking out. I think the dip in 175+ scores will help out your splitter status for a place like H, where they need 175+ to maintain their 75th (versus anywhere else where a 176 may as well be a 172).

Definitely apply to Cornell and wait it out til the end. They can be a huge bargaining chip. You'll want to blanket the entire lower T14 bc they can be unpredictable with $$$.

[kfb2112]

I also had a 3.47 and got a JS1. You are not below any 'floor."

[Brentwood]

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[norkanite]

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[ndirish2010]

Had roughly the same stats and ED'd NU (best decision I ever made). But for the record I got NYU within a week of my application - I had to withdraw all the others after getting the NU scholly. If you really want dat preftige, you should get Columbia and NYU, maybe an outside shot at H, all at sticker. But $$$ at lower T14 is the way to go IMO because 1) you'll have an easier time getting to the top of the curve, 2) you aren't chained to biglaw, which is a psychological boost, and 3) you hit a positive net worth in your mid 20s as opposed to mid/late 30s.

While I agree with the rest of your post, you do not have a better chance at ending up at the top of the curve at CCN compared to NU. I doubt there is any real difference in intelligence between the students at these schools, and even if there were, the normal variance in grades would take care of that.

[Hat.trick]

at CCN you'd be in for sure. At H it would be a little harder but by no means impossible. Your work experience and high lsat could make up for that subpar GPA. their floor has traditionally been a 3.5 so you arent that far away from it.

[norkanite]

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[ndirish2010]

While I agree with the rest of your post, you do not have a better chance at ending up at the top of the curve at CCN compared to NU. I doubt there is any real difference in intelligence between the students at these schools, and even if there were, the normal variance in grades would take care of that.

Apologies if it came across that way. I definitely didn't mean any variance in intelligence, and and both the LSAT and grades are ridiculously arbitrary. They are moderately correlated according to some study floating around, even if only useful for the placebo effect.

Yeah even assuming correlation, it would be a negligible difference between CCN and NU. You could take a random student from one of these schools and throw them into the other and they would not notice any difference. Of course, that's one of the reasons people go to higher-ranked schools - if the chance of finishing above median is the same at both places, you'll want to go to the one that has better employment numbers. However, I agree with you that a lower T14 with $$$ is usually preferable to CCN at sticker.