3.3-3.5 171-174 Non URM chances Forum

[question11]

Hey guys,

I have a 3.3-3.5 GPA and a 171-174 LSAT score. Taken 4 times over 3 years, no more takes available. Non-URM, but some interesting softs. If one person wants to pm me and verify thats cool, don't want to out myself because we all know law schools are reading these posts.

Also checked out mylsn, but curious especially from personal experience about chances and scholarship money. Thanks!

[gnomgnomuch]

Hey guys,

I have a 3.3-3.5 GPA and a 171-174 LSAT score. Taken 4 times over 3 years, no more takes available. Non-URM, but some interesting softs. If one person wants to pm me and verify thats cool, don't want to out myself because we all know law schools are reading these posts.

Also checked out mylsn, but curious especially from personal experience about chances and scholarship money. Thanks!

...Those are two wildly different ranges. We need more concrete numbers, since a 3.3/171 has prob no shot a CCN, but a 3.3/174 might break in and a 3.5/174 has a solid shot. Same applies for money at other t-14's versus possible acceptances.

[gnomgnomuch]

Hey guys,

I have a 3.3-3.5 GPA and a 171-174 LSAT score. Taken 4 times over 3 years, no more takes available. Non-URM, but some interesting softs. If one person wants to pm me and verify thats cool, don't want to out myself because we all know law schools are reading these posts.

Also checked out mylsn, but curious especially from personal experience about chances and scholarship money. Thanks!

...Those are two wildly different ranges. We need more concrete numbers, since a 3.3/171 has prob no shot a CCN, but a 3.3/174 might break in and a 3.5/174 has a solid shot. Same applies for money at other t-14's versus possible acceptances.

Also, law schools won't care at all if you're asking about chances schools.

[question11]

thats fair. lets say the higher range of the GPA and the middle of that LSAT range.

[ndirish2010]

Adcomms could not care less if you post a chances thread with your actual stats. And they have better things to do than read the musings of neurotic 0Ls, I promise you.

[question11]

okay extremely close to a 3.5 and a 172/173 just because I feel better that way.

[ood]

DOB and last 4 of SS

GPA, LSAT

[gnomgnomuch]

okay extremely close to a 3.5 and a 172/173 just because I feel better that way.

Assuming a 3.45 and a 172 - You're out at HYS, small shot at CCNB (B is more GPA focused) and will prob be in at most of the rest of the t-14, with some money coming in at the bottom of the t-14 outside of GULC. Not guaranteed, but possible.

Assuming a 3.45 and a 173 - You're still out at HYS, you've got a slightly better shot at CCNB (possibly in at Columbia/NYU, though prob not Chicago) and the same outcomes with slightly more money/acceptances coming at the lower t-14, but again this isn't guaranteed.

*I'm aware that CCNB isn't a category, but B has a higher GPA standard than most, so I decided to lump those 4 together.*

Also, this prob won't make a difference if you're a 3.46-3.5.

[question11]

DOB and last 4 of SS

GPA, LSAT

I just did. 3.4X and a 172/173. Either way it isn't the 174 to get above YH median and its not a 171. If it is killing you to know whether it is a 172 or 173 and or my softs you can pm me.

okay extremely close to a 3.5 and a 172/173 just because I feel better that way.

Assuming a 3.45 and a 172 - You're out at HYS, small shot at CCNB (B is more GPA focused) and will prob be in at most of the rest of the t-14, with some money coming in at the bottom of the t-14 outside of GULC. Not guaranteed, but possible.

Assuming a 3.45 and a 173 - You're still out at HYS, you've got a slightly better shot at CCNB (possibly in at Columbia/NYU, though prob not Chicago) and the same outcomes with slightly more money/acceptances coming at the lower t-14, but again this isn't guaranteed.

*I'm aware that CCNB isn't a category, but B has a higher GPA standard than most, so I decided to lump those 4 together.*

Also, this prob won't make a difference if you're a 3.46-3.5.

thank you for the answer. What do my chances look for the Upenn, UVA, Duke, Northwestern (also not a Virginia resident if that helps) group with money versus say the Cornell/Georgetown group with money? IE like would it be sweet to get 50% from the first group but I should expect more from the latter?

[gnomgnomuch]

DOB and last 4 of SS

GPA, LSAT

I just did. 3.4X and a 172/173. Either way it isn't the 174 to get above YH median and its not a 171. If it is killing you to know whether it is a 172 or 173 and or my softs you can pm me.

okay extremely close to a 3.5 and a 172/173 just because I feel better that way.

Assuming a 3.45 and a 172 - You're out at HYS, small shot at CCNB (B is more GPA focused) and will prob be in at most of the rest of the t-14, with some money coming in at the bottom of the t-14 outside of GULC. Not guaranteed, but possible.

Assuming a 3.45 and a 173 - You're still out at HYS, you've got a slightly better shot at CCNB (possibly in at Columbia/NYU, though prob not Chicago) and the same outcomes with slightly more money/acceptances coming at the lower t-14, but again this isn't guaranteed.

*I'm aware that CCNB isn't a category, but B has a higher GPA standard than most, so I decided to lump those 4 together.*

Also, this prob won't make a difference if you're a 3.46-3.5.

thank you for the answer. What do my chances look for the Upenn, UVA, Duke, Northwestern (also not a Virginia resident if that helps) group with money versus say the Cornell/Georgetown group with money? IE like would it be sweet to get 50% from the first group but I should expect more from the latter?

Upenn - I'd say a waitlist if you're at 172, prob in at 173, though no guarantee, a why Upenn might help.
UVA - You're prob in. Same with Duke and NU.
Money is trickier, Cornell seems to be more generous, and GULC is infamously stingy, so prob not much at GULC, and a up to maybe a 1/4th scholarship to Cornell.

My answers are just based on the TLS hive-mind wisdom and the perusals of LSN and other such websites. There's no way to know, especially with your 3.45ish being a bit low for much money, though good enough to get accepted.

If you have some decent work experience, you might consider an ED to NU, it comes with a full scholarship, though you're prob not getting it, even with a 173. Still, it never hurts to try.

[question11]

DOB and last 4 of SS

GPA, LSAT

I just did. 3.4X and a 172/173. Either way it isn't the 174 to get above YH median and its not a 171. If it is killing you to know whether it is a 172 or 173 and or my softs you can pm me.

okay extremely close to a 3.5 and a 172/173 just because I feel better that way.

Assuming a 3.45 and a 172 - You're out at HYS, small shot at CCNB (B is more GPA focused) and will prob be in at most of the rest of the t-14, with some money coming in at the bottom of the t-14 outside of GULC. Not guaranteed, but possible.

Assuming a 3.45 and a 173 - You're still out at HYS, you've got a slightly better shot at CCNB (possibly in at Columbia/NYU, though prob not Chicago) and the same outcomes with slightly more money/acceptances coming at the lower t-14, but again this isn't guaranteed.

*I'm aware that CCNB isn't a category, but B has a higher GPA standard than most, so I decided to lump those 4 together.*

Also, this prob won't make a difference if you're a 3.46-3.5.

thank you for the answer. What do my chances look for the Upenn, UVA, Duke, Northwestern (also not a Virginia resident if that helps) group with money versus say the Cornell/Georgetown group with money? IE like would it be sweet to get 50% from the first group but I should expect more from the latter?

Upenn - I'd say a waitlist if you're at 172, prob in at 173, though no guarantee, a why Upenn might help.
UVA - You're prob in. Same with Duke and NU.
Money is trickier, Cornell seems to be more generous, and GULC is infamously stingy, so prob not much at GULC, and a up to maybe a 1/4th scholarship to Cornell.

My answers are just based on the TLS hive-mind wisdom and the perusals of LSN and other such websites. There's no way to know, especially with your 3.45ish being a bit low for much money, though good enough to get accepted.

If you have some decent work experience, you might consider an ED to NU, it comes with a full scholarship, though you're prob not getting it, even with a 173. Still, it never hurts to try.

So probably only around 25%ish at the lower end of the t14? Probably no more really at the mid t14s?

[gnomgnomuch]

DOB and last 4 of SS

GPA, LSAT

I just did. 3.4X and a 172/173. Either way it isn't the 174 to get above YH median and its not a 171. If it is killing you to know whether it is a 172 or 173 and or my softs you can pm me.

okay extremely close to a 3.5 and a 172/173 just because I feel better that way.

Assuming a 3.45 and a 172 - You're out at HYS, small shot at CCNB (B is more GPA focused) and will prob be in at most of the rest of the t-14, with some money coming in at the bottom of the t-14 outside of GULC. Not guaranteed, but possible.

Assuming a 3.45 and a 173 - You're still out at HYS, you've got a slightly better shot at CCNB (possibly in at Columbia/NYU, though prob not Chicago) and the same outcomes with slightly more money/acceptances coming at the lower t-14, but again this isn't guaranteed.

*I'm aware that CCNB isn't a category, but B has a higher GPA standard than most, so I decided to lump those 4 together.*

Also, this prob won't make a difference if you're a 3.46-3.5.

thank you for the answer. What do my chances look for the Upenn, UVA, Duke, Northwestern (also not a Virginia resident if that helps) group with money versus say the Cornell/Georgetown group with money? IE like would it be sweet to get 50% from the first group but I should expect more from the latter?

Upenn - I'd say a waitlist if you're at 172, prob in at 173, though no guarantee, a why Upenn might help.
UVA - You're prob in. Same with Duke and NU.
Money is trickier, Cornell seems to be more generous, and GULC is infamously stingy, so prob not much at GULC, and a up to maybe a 1/4th scholarship to Cornell.

My answers are just based on the TLS hive-mind wisdom and the perusals of LSN and other such websites. There's no way to know, especially with your 3.45ish being a bit low for much money, though good enough to get accepted.

If you have some decent work experience, you might consider an ED to NU, it comes with a full scholarship, though you're prob not getting it, even with a 173. Still, it never hurts to try.

So probably only around 25%ish at the lower end of the t14? Probably no more really at the mid t14s?

Most likely, but you never know, check mylsn, they can help you with scholly amounts.