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Clearly · Post by **Clearly** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:43 am

shump92 wrote:I went to Stanford for UG and I can tell you based on my experience that they would love your softs. With the great LSAT score I could see you being considered well there if your PS ties those things together well. But I cannot say to what extent there would be any different between UG and Law admissions there. I think that your application would very likely be intriguing to most schools' committees at the least. The potential problems i could see are the low GPA and perhaps concern that you may not be fully committed to law given how much you have bounced around. But a REALLY well thought out personal statement could address both of those well. I have no experience with law admissions so maybe it is different but my dad worked in UG admissions and told me the personal statement was often a big deal. My instinct would be that jumping further over any school's LSAT median would not really affect your current chances, but maybe schools really care a lot about that number. Regardless, the PS could help make you a strong candidate with that LSAT. Hope something I said is helpful for you. Good luck!

He could apply 3000 times to Stanford Law and not get in, provided he's not a URM. Penn is prob in, uva as well, nyu very possible, money at northwestern prob in the 60k range. In at gulc and Cornell etc.

hearsay77 · Post by **hearsay77** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:06 pm

I disagree with shump - UG & LS admissions are totally different an a 3.0 puts HYS out of the running for sure.

I'd guess you'll get decent scholarships to the lower T14, but from what I saw this year splitters didn't have as much luck as reverse splitters. Definitely worth it to blanket the T14 (minus HYS) and see what happens. Good luck!

Lawdood · Post by **Lawdood** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:11 pm

HYS not possible because there will be applicants with a 174 and a 3.8+ GPA.

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Clearly · Post by **Clearly** » Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:16 pm

Berkley is almost certainly out, they are very GPA heavy. The others could possibly be in play. The thing with splitters is we don't know what schools are going to need what numbers in any given year. There are plenty of datapoints around splitters, but if Mich or Duke needs an above median LSAT they very well might reach down to 3.0 if you show genuine interest. On the other hand they might have already hit their median, or realize that they are going to drop a point with or without you, and use the spot to bolster their GPA. There are schools that customarily always accept splitters, but some schools may or may not and there's not a great way of predicting it. Best I can say is apply from CCN down and see what turns up, you'll get at least a few options but you might not get any given school.

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Clearly · Post by **Clearly** » Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:20 pm

BirdLawExpert wrote:
Clearly wrote:Berkley is almost certainly out, they are very GPA heavy. The others could possibly be in play. The thing with splitters is we don't know what schools are going to need what numbers in any given year. There are plenty of datapoints around splitters, but if Mich or Duke needs an above median LSAT they very well might reach down to 3.0 if you show genuine interest. On the other hand they might have already hit their median, or realize that they are going to drop a point with or without you, and use the spot to bolster their GPA. There are schools that customarily always accept splitters, but some schools may or may not and there's not a great way of predicting it. Best I can say is apply from CCN down and see what turns up, you'll get at least a few options but you might not get any given school.
Thanks for the help! If I end up in NY I'll be sure to pull for the Mets (alongside my Houston Astros, of course).

As a good hearted human I'm afraid I can't recommend in good faith that anyone root for the Mets. If you're not born into this curse, don't sign up for it!

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hearsay77 · Post by **hearsay77** » Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:22 pm

BirdLawExpert wrote:
hearsay77 wrote:I disagree with shump - UG & LS admissions are totally different an a 3.0 puts HYS out of the running for sure.

I'd guess you'll get decent scholarships to the lower T14, but from what I saw this year splitters didn't have as much luck as reverse splitters. Definitely worth it to blanket the T14 (minus HYS) and see what happens. Good luck!
Any benefit to applying ED at any T14? I know NU has the full tuition ED, but do I have a reasonable enough chance at money at a higher ranked school to forgo NU ED in lieu of simply applying regularly?

I think the full tuition ED at NU is the only one you should consider, since its the only full ride. You might get some money at a higher ranked school, but I doubt you'd get a full ride at a higher ranked school than NU.

BirdLawExpert wrote:
hearsay77 wrote:I disagree with shump - UG & LS admissions are totally different an a 3.0 puts HYS out of the running for sure.

I'd guess you'll get decent scholarships to the lower T14, but from what I saw this year splitters didn't have as much luck as reverse splitters. Definitely worth it to blanket the T14 (minus HYS) and see what happens. Good luck!
Yeah, I think I'd need to retake and get a perfect score to have HYS even give me a second glance. Any realistic chance at CCN?

LSN shows that Chicago didn't accept anyone below a 3.3 this past year and even that was a URM (lowest non-URM was 3.42), Columbia didn't accept anyone below a 3.2, and NYU was the same as Columbia. Based on that, I'd say chances are slim, but its worth sending in an application if you want to.

Clearly · Post by **Clearly** » Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:25 pm

I really don't know why people think
NU takes splitters
+ NU gives full rides
= NU gives full rides to splitters.

Clearly · Post by **Clearly** » Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:26 pm

Also it's not technically a full ride, it's just a lot of money.

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