~4.3/174- Canadian Student

[Tess96]

Hi everyone,

I took my LSAT early on in my undergraduate year, so I am not graduating yet.
I can still rewrite the LSAT before I graduate, and I probably will.
4.3 GPA is just what I have now; I understand that it may change.

What concerns me is that I'm not attending the most elite university. And it's in Canada.
So I feel like the 4.3 GPA is meaningless.
If I wanted to go to law school outside of Canada, what would be my chances?
If I wanted to have some options for out of Canada law schools, should I think about transferring to another university?

Thanks

[txdude45]

GTFO or STFU. Your choice.

[Rigo]

Canadian GPA's are reported the same as USA GPA's so it's far from meaningless.

Retaking would have diminishing returns since you're above every median. Since you're going to be a k-jd, a Hamilton isn't really in the cards anyways.

[Tess96]

Wait do you actually have a 174 or is that a hypothetical?
Also, Canadian GPA's are reported the same as USA GPA's so it's far from meaningless.

The 174 I already have.
The chances that I will graduate with a 4.3 is hypothetical.
And it's nice to hear that my GPA will still count, but don't law schools unofficially/officially prefer students from more prestigious universities?

[Rigo]

Wait do you actually have a 174 or is that a hypothetical?
Also, Canadian GPA's are reported the same as USA GPA's so it's far from meaningless.

The 174 I already have.
The chances that I will graduate with a 4.3 is hypothetical.
And it's nice to hear that my GPA will still count, but don't law schools unofficially/officially prefer students from more prestigious universities?

Your undergrad institution doesn't matter. USA law schools are extremely numbers-based, so it's really 95% LSAT+GPA except at Yale and Stanford, which are both more holistic.

[Gray]

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[Tess96]

Wait do you actually have a 174 or is that a hypothetical?
Also, Canadian GPA's are reported the same as USA GPA's so it's far from meaningless.

The 174 I already have.
The chances that I will graduate with a 4.3 is hypothetical.
And it's nice to hear that my GPA will still count, but don't law schools unofficially/officially prefer students from more prestigious universities?

Your undergrad institution doesn't matter. USA law schools are extremely numbers-based, so it's really 95% LSAT+GPA except at Yale and Stanford, which are both more holistic.

That's really a relief. Thanks for your answers!
I've had so many people tell me that I would need to get close to perfect score on my lsat since my gpa won't matter.

[Rigo]

Your undergrad institution doesn't matter. USA law schools are extremely numbers-based, so it's really 95% LSAT+GPA except at Yale and Stanford, which are both more holistic.

That's really a relief. Thanks for your answers!
I've had so many people tell me that I would need to get close to perfect score on my lsat since my gpa won't matter.

Well those people are dumb, and you'll be laughing your way to Harvard or a lower T14 on a full ride.

[Tiago Splitter]

Just to be clear you've received an A+ in just about every class right?

[pylon]

What concerns me is that I'm not attending the most elite university. And it's in Canada.
So I feel like the 4.3 GPA is meaningless.

In a tie situation with an otherwise identical candidate, the prestige or rigour of a university might make a difference. But your numbers are so good that you won't be in such a situation. Congrats on the fantastic numbers...

[Tess96]

Just to be clear you've received an A+ in just about every class right?

So far, yes, I received A+ in all my classes.
I'm not too sure that I'll graduate with all A+, though. That would be tough.
My aim is to stay in the 4.0-4.3 range.

[Tess96]

Your undergrad institution doesn't matter. USA law schools are extremely numbers-based, so it's really 95% LSAT+GPA except at Yale and Stanford, which are both more holistic.

That's really a relief. Thanks for your answers!
I've had so many people tell me that I would need to get close to perfect score on my lsat since my gpa won't matter.

Well those people are dumb, and you'll be laughing your way to Harvard or a lower T14 on a full ride.

Since you seem really nice, can I ask another question?
What kind of softs would I need to get into "Harvard or a lower T14 on a full ride" ?

[Rigo]

Your undergrad institution doesn't matter. USA law schools are extremely numbers-based, so it's really 95% LSAT+GPA except at Yale and Stanford, which are both more holistic.

That's really a relief. Thanks for your answers!
I've had so many people tell me that I would need to get close to perfect score on my lsat since my gpa won't matter.

Well those people are dumb, and you'll be laughing your way to Harvard or a lower T14 on a full ride.

Since you seem really nice, can I ask another question?
What kind of softs would I need to get into "Harvard or a lower T14 on a full ride" ?

Tbh, nothing. I know k-jd's (no time off between undergrad and law) who have gotten T14 full rides this cycle with similar numbers.
Obviously taking time off to get some work experience can be beneficial personally and professionally, but the bump from an admissions standpoint isn't substantial.

[Clearly]

Wanna trade lives?

[ballcaps]

lol, enjoy HYS

[ilikebaseball]

not fair that my UG doesnt offer "+'s"

[mudiverse]

How on earth does one get a 4.3 on a 4.0 scale? With an "A+" you go over 4.0?? This is bizarre.

But yeah, all signs point to HYS.

[dabigchina]

First humble brag poast of the calendar year?

[Mack.Hambleton]

120

[Username123]

OP,

You win.

[Kinky John]

OP will always be a poutine-eating universal healthcare-loving canadian though so there's the silver lining for us mere mortals

[pylon]

How on earth does one get a 4.3 on a 4.0 scale? With an "A+" you go over 4.0?? This is bizarre.

But yeah, all signs point to HYS.

Yeah, LSAC awards A+ as 4.33, and A as 4.00.

[victory]

Hi everyone,

I took my LSAT early on in my undergraduate year, so I am not graduating yet.

Just out of curiosity, what year are you?

Also,

Since you're going to be a k-jd, a Hamilton isn't really in the cards anyways.

Are k-jds out of the running for a Hamilton? Hadn't heard that before, but I never really looked into it.

[RZ5646]

Also,

Since you're going to be a k-jd, a Hamilton isn't really in the cards anyways.

Are k-jds out of the running for a Hamilton? Hadn't heard that before, but I never really looked into it.

Also curious about this. Is there any evidence to support this claim, or is it just one of those things buzzing around the TLS hivemind because someone said it once years ago?

[js1663]

Also,

Since you're going to be a k-jd, a Hamilton isn't really in the cards anyways.

Are k-jds out of the running for a Hamilton? Hadn't heard that before, but I never really looked into it.

Also curious about this. Is there any evidence to support this claim, or is it just one of those things buzzing around the TLS hivemind because someone said it once years ago?

Never heard this before, and a quick google search reveals that this likely isn't true (or at least it's not an absolute rule)

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 1&t=226356