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Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?
Egregious anti-NYU trolling.
& sure, you have a shot. Your softs don't seem impressive enough for YS, and you're only at the 25% LSAT for Harvard and Columbia. Chicago loves high GPA's and you're at their LSAT median so put together a great application and that will be your most likely acceptance of the 5.
You're definitely good for the other T14's, save Berk's black box.
& sure, you have a shot. Your softs don't seem impressive enough for YS, and you're only at the 25% LSAT for Harvard and Columbia. Chicago loves high GPA's and you're at their LSAT median so put together a great application and that will be your most likely acceptance of the 5.
You're definitely good for the other T14's, save Berk's black box.
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Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?
I've seen that, I posted because I was hoping for more feedback other than a very limited sample size of about 5-6 people for each top 5 law school in my range with mixed results.
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Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?
Berk was only school ranked 6-14 I didn't get a waiver fee from which I was always curious about.Dirigo wrote:Egregious anti-NYU trolling.
& sure, you have a shot. Your softs don't seem impressive enough for YS, and you're only at the 25% LSAT for Harvard and Columbia. Chicago loves high GPA's and you're at their LSAT median so put together a great application and that will be your most likely acceptance of the 5.
You're definitely good for the other T14's, save Berk's black box.
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Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?
nobody here has anything useful to say beyond what these numbers can tell you.Wcwhyte wrote:I've seen that, I posted because I was hoping for more feedback other than a very limited sample size of about 5-6 people for each top 5 law school in my range with mixed results.
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Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?
They don't give them out. Only for need based and then service (like TFA), I believe.Wcwhyte wrote:Berk was only school ranked 6-14 I didn't get a waiver fee from which I was always curious about.Dirigo wrote:Egregious anti-NYU trolling.
& sure, you have a shot. Your softs don't seem impressive enough for YS, and you're only at the 25% LSAT for Harvard and Columbia. Chicago loves high GPA's and you're at their LSAT median so put together a great application and that will be your most likely acceptance of the 5.
You're definitely good for the other T14's, save Berk's black box.
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Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?
All anyone will tell you is what they see on myLSN. When the cycle is over you'll probably be better off taking a full ride from a school ranked lower than 5, but apply everywhere and see what happens.
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Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?
Broaden your search parameters? You could always refine the search based on the percentiles, one school at a time, or just ballpark it and say 3.97-4.0 (at/above all 75ths), 170-171 LSAT (not enough of a range to push you over any percentile threshold). I'm seeing a lot more than 5 or 6.Wcwhyte wrote:I've seen that, I posted because I was hoping for more feedback other than a very limited sample size of about 5-6 people for each top 5 law school in my range with mixed results.
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Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?
All I have is this currently:Rhymes With Wolf wrote:Broaden your search parameters? You could always refine the search based on the percentiles, one school at a time, or just ballpark it and say 3.97-4.0 (at/above all 75ths), 170-171 LSAT (not enough of a range to push you over any percentile threshold). I'm seeing a lot more than 5 or 6.Wcwhyte wrote:I've seen that, I posted because I was hoping for more feedback other than a very limited sample size of about 5-6 people for each top 5 law school in my range with mixed results.
AC WA RE %
1. Yale 3 0 10 23%
2. Harvard 3 2 1 50%
2. Stanford 2 2 1 40%
4. Chicago 3 2 0 60%
4. Columbia 2 3 0 40%
So I'll definitely try a larger range like you suggested
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Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?
What difference do your chances actually make? Just apply to all the schools in the T14 or T20 or wherever you want to go and see how the chips fall.Wcwhyte wrote:All I have is this currently:Rhymes With Wolf wrote:Broaden your search parameters? You could always refine the search based on the percentiles, one school at a time, or just ballpark it and say 3.97-4.0 (at/above all 75ths), 170-171 LSAT (not enough of a range to push you over any percentile threshold). I'm seeing a lot more than 5 or 6.Wcwhyte wrote:I've seen that, I posted because I was hoping for more feedback other than a very limited sample size of about 5-6 people for each top 5 law school in my range with mixed results.
AC WA RE %
1. Yale 3 0 10 23%
2. Harvard 3 2 1 50%
2. Stanford 2 2 1 40%
4. Chicago 3 2 0 60%
4. Columbia 2 3 0 40%
So I'll definitely try a larger range like you suggested
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Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?
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Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?
i'd say you're a shoe in for top 8
might have better odds at money from top 11 tho
might have better odds at money from top 11 tho
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Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?
Just so you know for the future, that is not a "very competitive resume." It's average, and certainly below average when compared to people with legitimate work experience.Wcwhyte wrote:I have a very competitive resume I believe (accounting internship, teaching assistant, large amount of community service and extracurriculars), but not anything super overwhelming and no research or published writing (outside of various sports journalism which doesn't really count).
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Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?
1. "Top 5" is not a thing.
2. Your resume is not competitive. It's not bad, but it's not competitive.
3. Take a year off before matriculating.
4. There is no reason myLSN isn't going to be representative. If there is insufficient data there, we're not magically going to know what to tell you.
5. Retake.
2. Your resume is not competitive. It's not bad, but it's not competitive.
3. Take a year off before matriculating.
4. There is no reason myLSN isn't going to be representative. If there is insufficient data there, we're not magically going to know what to tell you.
5. Retake.
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Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?
Retake the LSAT if you want to get into a T5. Your softs probably aren't competitive for Stanford and Yale but you could probably snag Harvard and maybe solid money at C and C if you squeeze out a few more points.
(lol sucks to suck NYU)
(lol sucks to suck NYU)
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Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?
Softs are probably competitive for SLS off the waitlist.BigZuck wrote:Retake the LSAT if you want to get into a T5. Your softs probably aren't competitive for Stanford and Yale but you could probably snag Harvard and maybe solid money at C and C if you squeeze out a few more points.
(lol sucks to suck NYU)
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Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?
You would know better than I would. I was thinking S is definitely out without a high 170s score just because these sound like pretty generic softs for a T20ish school, let alone HYS. But I defer to you.Kimikho wrote:Softs are probably competitive for SLS off the waitlist.BigZuck wrote:Retake the LSAT if you want to get into a T5. Your softs probably aren't competitive for Stanford and Yale but you could probably snag Harvard and maybe solid money at C and C if you squeeze out a few more points.
(lol sucks to suck NYU)
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Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?
Yeah, this is just based off of experience and could change year to year.BigZuck wrote:You would know better than I would. I was thinking S is definitely out without a high 170s score just because these sound like pretty generic softs for a T20ish school, let alone HYS. But I defer to you.Kimikho wrote:Softs are probably competitive for SLS off the waitlist.BigZuck wrote:Retake the LSAT if you want to get into a T5. Your softs probably aren't competitive for Stanford and Yale but you could probably snag Harvard and maybe solid money at C and C if you squeeze out a few more points.
(lol sucks to suck NYU)
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Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?
it's 2 point below their median since they raised it to 172 this year so idk
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Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?
i see a retake if OP wants to go to T5.
a 172 could open up more doors especially at the top
a 172 could open up more doors especially at the top
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Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?
MattM wrote:i see a retake if OP wants to go to T5.
a 172 could open up more doors especially at the top

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Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?
+1BigZuck wrote:lol sucks to suck NYU
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Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?
Sameish numbers, sameish resume, K-JD, I got in everywhere. I go to SLS. I'm not totally sure what to attribute that to (mere luck? a killer LoR? maybe my personal statement?) but here I am.
So, yes, I'd predict you have a fair chance, just based on personal experience. Feel free to PM.
So, yes, I'd predict you have a fair chance, just based on personal experience. Feel free to PM.
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Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?
URM maybe?Sls17 wrote:Sameish numbers, sameish resume, K-JD, I got in everywhere. I go to SLS. I'm not totally sure what to attribute that to (mere luck? a killer LoR? maybe my personal statement?) but here I am.
So, yes, I'd predict you have a fair chance, just based on personal experience. Feel free to PM.
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