177/3.5 with two possession charges Forum

dreams2020 · Post by **dreams2020** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 12:56 am

Hello all, I was hoping there might be someone out there with a touch of insight on this. I've already searched for people in similar situations, but most seem to have character and fitness issues from earlier on.
177
3.5 gpa from a decent school
Very average reccs
Average resume + currently working full-time

I got into CLS ED last fall, but had my offer rescinded this last summer after I was arrested for drug paraphernalia, and two controlled substance possessions (one marijuana, one considerably harder). I hadn't had any previous run ins with the law. I informed CLS as soon as the incident happened, and provided them with all the information they asked for. I received deferred judgement on the possessions, and had the paraphernalia dismissed. I'm on self-monitored probation, and will be until next fall. I am working a full-time professional job right now, but it's not with law.

Most posts I have read suggest that misdemeanors usually shouldn't effect one's chances too significantly, but most of the people with charges have them from years ago. The fact that I got the charges so recently, got them while admitted at a law school, and am applying while I am still on probation, as well as the fact that I already lost an admission once gives me pause. Any thoughts?

MistakenGenius · Post by **MistakenGenius** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 1:06 am

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FuturePanhandler · Post by **FuturePanhandler** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 1:21 am

What a waste of talent

03152016 · Post by **03152016** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:21 pm

first of all, i'm obliged to say: don't ED unless you're rich or someone else is footing the bill

consult an attorney specializing in ny disciplinary defense. if you get the all-clear, say so in your c&f statement; law schools don't want to accept people who won't be admitted to the bar

finally, if you have substance abuse problems, best to address them before you go off to law school.

kingpin101 · Post by **kingpin101** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:19 am

You seem very much concerned with how your charges are going to affect your law admission cycle, but the real question is why you're possessing hard drugs in the first place.

Ohiobumpkin · Post by **Ohiobumpkin** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:34 am

FuturePanhandler wrote:What a waste of talent

Dr. Nefario · Post by **Dr. Nefario** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:46 am

maybe sit out a cycle and reapply right before your 5 year lsat expires? That way you can show you've had time to change and straighten yourself up

DaRascal · Post by **DaRascal** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:53 am

Why did CLS rescind your offer? That's not fair. You made an honest mistake. I can't believe they were so judgmental toward you that they took away something you worked so hard for. I don't know how you're gonna go about applying, but you've definitely gotta get your revenge against them somewhere down the line!

A. Nony Mouse · Post by **A. Nony Mouse** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:54 am

DaRascal wrote:Why did CLS rescind your offer? That's not fair. You made an honest mistake. I can't believe they were so judgmental toward you that they took away something you worked so hard for. I don't know how you're gonna go about applying, but you've definitely gotta get your revenge against them somewhere down the line!

Stop trolling other people's threads.

DaRascal · Post by **DaRascal** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:03 am

The MOUSE is in the HOUSE.

*puts hands up*

FloridaCoastalorbust · Post by **FloridaCoastalorbust** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:51 am

no one here will be able to predict your cycle. just write a compelling c&f and cross your fingers. that's all you can do.

dreams2020 · Post by **dreams2020** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:56 am

I appreciate everyone's input. It was an incredibly short sighted mistake on my part, and I have no doubt that It'l continue to affect my prospects, as consequences for one's actions rightfully do. I've contacted an attorney as Brut suggested, and am considering sitting this cycle out. Thank you all again for your concern and insight.

Kratos · Post by **Kratos** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:14 pm

Ohiobumpkin wrote:
FuturePanhandler wrote:What a waste of talent

kingpin101 wrote:You seem very much concerned with how your charges are going to affect your law admission cycle, but the real question is why you're possessing hard drugs in the first place.

Nobody asked for you assholes to judge them. Get off your fucking high horses and either give him advice or gtfo.

FloridaCoastalorbust · Post by **FloridaCoastalorbust** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:21 pm

Adding an extra year of distance between the arrest and your application MIGHT make your app more palatable, but surely that will be negligible. Just apply now.

rdawkins28 · Post by **rdawkins28** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:25 pm

Kratos wrote:Nobody asked for you assholes to judge them. Get off your fucking high horses and either give him advice or gtfo.

+1

KanGaHru · Post by **KanGaHru** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:20 pm

rdawkins28 wrote:
Kratos wrote:Nobody asked for you assholes to judge them. Get off your fucking high horses and either give him advice or gtfo.
+1

Those that cannot handle judgement may want to consider a different road that is not law.

FloridaCoastalorbust · Post by **FloridaCoastalorbust** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:48 pm

KanGaHru wrote:
rdawkins28 wrote:
Kratos wrote:Nobody asked for you assholes to judge them. Get off your fucking high horses and either give him advice or gtfo.
+1
Those that cannot handle judgement may want to consider a different road that is not law.

lol wtf

Ohiobumpkin · Post by **Ohiobumpkin** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:23 pm

Kratos wrote:
Ohiobumpkin wrote:
FuturePanhandler wrote:What a waste of talent

kingpin101 wrote:You seem very much concerned with how your charges are going to affect your law admission cycle, but the real question is why you're possessing hard drugs in the first place.
Nobody asked for you assholes to judge them. Get off your fucking high horses and either give him advice or gtfo.

I might have quoted a very terse response to the OP's post, but here is where I'm coming from. OP is considering being a lawyer. A lawyer is an officer of the court and, at least theoretically, cannot willfully break the law. This includes possessing illegal chemical substances and the objects used to smoke/inject those substances into his or her body. Considering this JUST HAPPENED (hint, not a few years ago during undergrad while experimenting in drugs), I personally would not recommend OP even go to law school until he gets his head on straight and matures.

Was what I said judgmental? Hell yes. But that is because OP is looking for advice, and in a very terse way I gave him my two cents. If you ask for advice, be prepared to receive advice that is negative.

To OP, sorry for coming off judgmental, but I don't think somebody who possesses a "far harder" substance than weed should be going to law school. I don't know what kind of person you are, but going to law school, incurring substantial debt, and going into an over-saturated profession as a hard drug user is very risky. If you get caught after you get your license, you can be disbarred. If you get caught during law school, your state's bar might not allow you even sit for the bar. Were you to get your head on straight and stop using hard drugs (I don't care if it's smack or E), then I say welcome brother to the worst profession on the planet.

CicerBRo · Post by **CicerBRo** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:35 pm

KanGaHru wrote:
rdawkins28 wrote:
Kratos wrote:Nobody asked for you assholes to judge them. Get off your fucking high horses and either give him advice or gtfo.
+1
Those that cannot handle judgement may want to consider a different road that is not law.

lol just stop

MistakenGenius · Post by **MistakenGenius** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:44 pm

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dreams2020 · Post by **dreams2020** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:58 pm

I hesitate to post in a thread that has gotten a smidge off-topic, but who can resist the chance to talk about themselves?

I would like to point out that I took no issue with the replies that could have been perceived as judgmental. All that anyone on this thread knows about me is that I got into CLS, and blew it by making some very poor choices. Judgement seems rather merited with only that information to go on. Drug addiction is a terrible thing, and while it's not particularly what I was asking about, it's a reasonable thing for a concerned citizen to comment on.

I appreciate Ohiobumpkin's comments. I don't personally agree with their perspective on the direct correlation between drug use and maturity, but I agree whole-heartedly that to have brought drugs along on my trip was among the worst decisions I've ever made, and an incredibly short-sighted and immature one at that. I might disagree with some of the drug laws in this country, but I was not acting out of a sense of civil disobedience; I was thinking that it'd be fun to get high while on a celebratory trip. I wish that CLS had not chosen to rescind my offer of admissions, but I do not blame them, nor my arresting officer, or the county prosecutor for doling out punishment that, in my opinion, has been far lighter than it could have been.

This thread has given me sound advice. I will consider waiting a year, and will make sure that I'm going to be able to pass the bar before re-applying (or at least the C&F section). Everything else I take as a sign that just because we're strangers doesn't mean that you don't care about my well being. It's quite heart warming.

KMart · Post by **KMart** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:01 pm

dreams2020 wrote:I hesitate to post in a thread that has gotten a smidge off-topic, but who can resist the chance to talk about themselves?

I would like to point out that I took no issue with the replies that could have been perceived as judgmental. All that anyone on this thread knows about me is that I got into CLS, and blew it by making some very poor choices. Judgement seems rather merited with only that information to go on. Drug addiction is a terrible thing, and while it's not particularly what I was asking about, it's a reasonable thing for a concerned citizen to comment on.

I appreciate Ohiobumpkin's comments. I don't personally agree with their perspective on the direct correlation between drug use and maturity, but I agree whole-heartedly that to have brought drugs along on my trip was among the worst decisions I've ever made, and an incredibly short-sighted and immature one at that. I might disagree with some of the drug laws in this country, but I was not acting out of a sense of civil disobedience; I was thinking that it'd be fun to get high while on a celebratory trip. I wish that CLS had not chosen to rescind my offer of admissions, but I do not blame them, nor my arresting officer, or the county prosecutor for doling out punishment that, in my opinion, has been far lighter than it could have been.

This thread has given me sound advice. I will consider waiting a year, and will make sure that I'm going to be able to pass the bar before re-applying (or at least the C&F section). Everything else I take as a sign that just because we're strangers doesn't mean that you don't care about my well being. It's quite heart warming.

The arrest really shows immaturity, but this post (which read a lot like an addendum and in the future I'd mold your addendum a lot like this) really disproves a lot of that. Best of luck to you.

03152016 · Post by **03152016** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:04 pm

good
and look on the bright side, if you get the all clear you can probably end up with a better outcome than you would applying ED

darth lulz · Post by **darth lulz** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:54 pm

KanGaHru wrote:
rdawkins28 wrote:
Kratos wrote:Nobody asked for you assholes to judge them. Get off your fucking high horses and either give him advice or gtfo.
+1
Those that cannot handle judgement may want to consider a different road that is not law.

(i hope that was tongue in cheek)

rdawkins28 · Post by **rdawkins28** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:26 pm

KanGaHru wrote:
rdawkins28 wrote:
Kratos wrote:Nobody asked for you assholes to judge them. Get off your fucking high horses and either give him advice or gtfo.
+1
Those that cannot handle judgement may want to consider a different road that is not law.

Neither should those who can't figure out the main issue in this thread.