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4.0 /173

Post by buckeye420 » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:16 pm

I'm a Chemical Engineering major, 4.0 at #12 school for the program. However, I went to another school my first 2 years and had a 3.7 there. The second school was not ranked very high, I think #80. Will the schools only look at my GPA from the school I graduated from?

Got a 173 on the LSAT

As for internships, I've worked 2 full-time semesters at a polymer plant. Worked part-time 2 semesters at CAS (the company that assigns patents to chemicals for the whole country). And I worked one more full-time semester at a fortune 500 company as an engineering intern. Also I have done research with professors, who would be more than willing to write my letters of recommendation, as would my bosses from any of my internships.

Extracurricular: I was vice-president of a club, and was a competing member on a team for an engineering competition that won 1st place year-to-year.

So here's the run down of my situation: I was turned on to the idea of becoming a patent lawyer by a friend of mine when he told me that to get certified by the BAR association you're required to have a bachelors in engineering or some other scientific field. That really interested me and I decided to take the LSAT and did pretty well on it, but now I'm not really sure what to do with it.

I'm not sure if I want to try to go to a T5 law school or not. On one hand it opens up a lot of opportunity, but I can probably get an extremely good scholarship to an in-state school for me, like Ohio State. How much does the cost investment of going to a T5 school really pay off compared to going somewhere cheaper like OSU for me? OSU is ranked #31 for law and the , does that really make it that much harder to get a job? What kind of salary difference do you think I'd be looking at? I'm not opposed to moving out of state for a job either, like moving to California or New York.

Also I'm pretty sure I'm going to do one of the joint M.B.A./J.D. programs. Are there any certain MBA's that employers look for more than others? If it doesn't even have that big of an impact that doesn't really change my decision to get the MBA as I plan on owning a few small buisinesses at some point in my life. In fact I'll be inheriting one right after I finish school.

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Re: 4.0 /173

Post by patogordo » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:17 pm

every college grade will count, so you won't have a 4.0

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Post by UnicornHunter » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:19 pm

buckeye420 wrote:I'm a Chemical Engineering major, 4.0 at #12 school for the program. However, I went to another school my first 2 years and had a 3.7 there. The second school was not ranked very high, I think #80. Will the schools only look at my GPA from the school I graduated from?

Got a 173 on the LSAT

As for internships, I've worked 2 full-time semesters at a polymer plant. Worked part-time 2 semesters at CAS (the company that assigns patents to chemicals for the whole country). And I worked one more full-time semester at a fortune 500 company as an engineering intern. Also I have done research with professors, who would be more than willing to write my letters of recommendation, as would my bosses from any of my internships.

Extracurricular: I was vice-president of a club, and was a competing member on a team for an engineering competition that won 1st place year-to-year.

So here's the run down of my situation: I was turned on to the idea of becoming a patent lawyer by a friend of mine when he told me that to get certified by the BAR association you're required to have a bachelors in engineering or some other scientific field. That really interested me and I decided to take the LSAT and did pretty well on it, but now I'm not really sure what to do with it.

I'm not sure if I want to try to go to a T5 law school or not. On one hand it opens up a lot of opportunity, but I can probably get an extremely good scholarship to an in-state school for me, like Ohio State. How much does the cost investment of going to a T5 school really pay off compared to going somewhere cheaper like OSU for me? OSU is ranked #31 for law and the , does that really make it that much harder to get a job? What kind of salary difference do you think I'd be looking at? I'm not opposed to moving out of state for a job either, like moving to California or New York.

Also I'm pretty sure I'm going to do one of the joint M.B.A./J.D. programs. Are there any certain MBA's that employers look for more than others? YES.If it doesn't even have that big of an impact that doesn't really change my decision to get the MBA as I plan on owning a few small buisinesses at some point in my life. In fact I'll be inheriting one right after I finish school.
Go to a T14 for free. Cost benefit problem solved.

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Re: 4.0 /173

Post by buckeye420 » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:22 pm

patogordo wrote:every college grade will count, so you won't have a 4.0
Are you sure? I was told that sometimes colleges don't care at all because the 4.0 is what would go on their admittance statistics and that's all they really care about.

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Post by A. Nony Mouse » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:23 pm

buckeye420 wrote:
patogordo wrote:every college grade will count, so you won't have a 4.0
Are you sure? I was told that sometimes colleges don't care at all because the 4.0 is what would go on their admittance statistics and that's all they really care about.
You have to submit every transcript from every institution of higher ed you ever attended, and LSAC works out the average based on every grade you received before earning your first BA. That's the GPA that gets reported to law schools.

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Re: 4.0 /173

Post by Hutz_and_Goodman » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:24 pm

You will get into almost all (or all) of T14, and full ride to any regional you want and possibly some lower t14. Get fee waivers, apply broadly, and then come back here to assess.

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Re: 4.0 /173

Post by anyriotgirl » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:26 pm

Why don't you work as an engineer for a while (or at your family business) and see if you like it before spending three years of your life on law school? You're not obligated to go just because you crushed the LSAT (which, congrats btw)

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Post by BigZuck » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:30 pm

Mods- I'd like to make a motion that we limit new "I have a 4.0/170 CHANCES PLZ!!" threads to only two a day. Should I make that request here or in the mod megathread?

OP- use mylsn.info. Also, your gpa is what lsac says it is. Usually that's every class you take until you graduate.

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Post by Pneumonia » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:36 pm

You have a 3.85

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Re: 4.0 /173

Post by buckeye420 » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:40 pm

anyriotgirl wrote:Why don't you work as an engineer for a while (or at your family business) and see if you like it before spending three years of your life on law school? You're not obligated to go just because you crushed the LSAT (which, congrats btw)
I've known for a while that I wanted to do some sort of grad school because I want a higher pay potential that you just don't get with a bachelors. Part of me feels like I'm over the whole engineer/scientist thing and law actually interests me a bit.

And I should add that the family business is nothing special, why else would I be trying to do so much school lol? It's a bait shop/farmers market, and excuse my language but I'm to get as far away from that rednick shit as possible.

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Re: 4.0 /173

Post by EricHosmer » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:45 pm

Don't go to a regional like Ohio State. A 3.85/173/chemical engineering major should net you a full ride at one (or likely more) T14 schools.

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Post by jbagelboy » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:57 pm

you stand a strong chance at Harvard, where you could receive need based aid if you qualify. that would set you up for maximum geographic flexibility.

Otherwise look to the T14 that feeds best into your target market and negotiate your way to a full ride there -- assuming you want private sector firm work. For example, if you wanted to work in Ohio, consider full and close to full rides at Northwestern and UChicago, respectively. You should ask someone about the Ohio legal market specifically since thats not an area of expertise for me or most people on TLS. The advise here is very major market large firm dominated. But job > no job holds true regardless.

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Re: 4.0 /173

Post by anyriotgirl » Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:02 pm

buckeye420 wrote:
anyriotgirl wrote:Why don't you work as an engineer for a while (or at your family business) and see if you like it before spending three years of your life on law school? You're not obligated to go just because you crushed the LSAT (which, congrats btw)
I've known for a while that I wanted to do some sort of grad school because I want a higher pay potential that you just don't get with a bachelors. Part of me feels like I'm over the whole engineer/scientist thing and law actually interests me a bit.

And I should add that the family business is nothing special, why else would I be trying to do so much school lol? It's a bait shop/farmers market, and excuse my language but I'm to get as far away from that rednick shit as possible.
Having a JD will lock you into a pretty specific path (not completely, but it will be harder to find different jobs if you decide that it's something that you don't like). I would think seriously think about it before going, because a mild interest in law isn't really a great reason to go.

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Re: 4.0 /173

Post by dabigchina » Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:49 pm

A guy named buckeye420 has a 4.0 173.

You are like the highest achieving stoner ever.
buckeye420 wrote:I'm a Chemical Engineering major, 4.0 at #12 school for the program. However, I went to another school my first 2 years and had a 3.7 there. The second school was not ranked very high, I think #80. Will the schools only look at my GPA from the school I graduated from?

Got a 173 on the LSAT

As for internships, I've worked 2 full-time semesters at a polymer plant. Worked part-time 2 semesters at CAS (the company that assigns patents to chemicals for the whole country). And I worked one more full-time semester at a fortune 500 company as an engineering intern. Also I have done research with professors, who would be more than willing to write my letters of recommendation, as would my bosses from any of my internships.

Extracurricular: I was vice-president of a club, and was a competing member on a team for an engineering competition that won 1st place year-to-year.

So here's the run down of my situation: I was turned on to the idea of becoming a patent lawyer by a friend of mine when he told me that to get certified by the BAR association you're required to have a bachelors in engineering or some other scientific field. That really interested me and I decided to take the LSAT and did pretty well on it, but now I'm not really sure what to do with it.

I'm not sure if I want to try to go to a T5 law school or not. On one hand it opens up a lot of opportunity, but I can probably get an extremely good scholarship to an in-state school for me, like Ohio State. How much does the cost investment of going to a T5 school really pay off compared to going somewhere cheaper like OSU for me? OSU is ranked #31 for law and the , does that really make it that much harder to get a job? What kind of salary difference do you think I'd be looking at? I'm not opposed to moving out of state for a job either, like moving to California or New York.

Also I'm pretty sure I'm going to do one of the joint M.B.A./J.D. programs. Are there any certain MBA's that employers look for more than others? If it doesn't even have that big of an impact that doesn't really change my decision to get the MBA as I plan on owning a few small buisinesses at some point in my life. In fact I'll be inheriting one right after I finish school.

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MistakenGenius wrote:
buckeye420 wrote:
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dabigchina wrote:
MistakenGenius wrote:
buckeye420 wrote:
TLDR: Retake and ED UVA
Wat?
It's an old TLS meme.

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Post by ilikebaseball » Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:01 am

Don't really get threads like this. Basically go to any law school you want or pursue your career in the engineering field. I feel like, with your credentials, you're smart enough to make this decision on your own. No one knows what you want, and either way win fucking win

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Post by patogordo » Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:03 am

ilikebaseball wrote:Don't really get threads like this. Basically go to any law school you want or pursue your career in the engineering field. I feel like, with your credentials, you're smart enough to make this decision on your own. No one knows what you want, and either way win fucking win
sounds like you do get it

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Post by ilikebaseball » Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:20 am

patogordo wrote:
ilikebaseball wrote:Don't really get threads like this. Basically go to any law school you want or pursue your career in the engineering field. I feel like, with your credentials, you're smart enough to make this decision on your own. No one knows what you want, and either way win fucking win
sounds like you do get it
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Post by Dr. Nefario » Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:42 am

TheUnicornHunter wrote:
buckeye420 wrote:I'm a Chemical Engineering major, 4.0 at #12 school for the program. However, I went to another school my first 2 years and had a 3.7 there. The second school was not ranked very high, I think #80. Will the schools only look at my GPA from the school I graduated from?

Got a 173 on the LSAT

As for internships, I've worked 2 full-time semesters at a polymer plant. Worked part-time 2 semesters at CAS (the company that assigns patents to chemicals for the whole country). And I worked one more full-time semester at a fortune 500 company as an engineering intern. Also I have done research with professors, who would be more than willing to write my letters of recommendation, as would my bosses from any of my internships.

Extracurricular: I was vice-president of a club, and was a competing member on a team for an engineering competition that won 1st place year-to-year.

So here's the run down of my situation: I was turned on to the idea of becoming a patent lawyer by a friend of mine when he told me that to get certified by the BAR association you're required to have a bachelors in engineering or some other scientific field. That really interested me and I decided to take the LSAT and did pretty well on it, but now I'm not really sure what to do with it.

I'm not sure if I want to try to go to a T5 law school or not. On one hand it opens up a lot of opportunity, but I can probably get an extremely good scholarship to an in-state school for me, like Ohio State. How much does the cost investment of going to a T5 school really pay off compared to going somewhere cheaper like OSU for me? OSU is ranked #31 for law and the , does that really make it that much harder to get a job? What kind of salary difference do you think I'd be looking at? I'm not opposed to moving out of state for a job either, like moving to California or New York.

Also I'm pretty sure I'm going to do one of the joint M.B.A./J.D. programs. Are there any certain MBA's that employers look for more than others? YES.If it doesn't even have that big of an impact that doesn't really change my decision to get the MBA as I plan on owning a few small buisinesses at some point in my life. In fact I'll be inheriting one right after I finish school.
Go to a T14 for free. Cost benefit problem solved.

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