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3.69 / 167 (urm) T5?

Post by yayarea21 » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:44 am

Applying to law schools this fall and I'd like to know if I have a shot at any of the T5. Any input is much appreciated :)

GPA: 3.69
LSAT: 167
Institution: UC Berkeley (4th year)
Race: African-American
Gender: Male
Work Experience: Full-time during freshman and sophomore year, and now currently part time.

EC's:
- President of History Club (history is my major) during my sophomore year.
- Current Vice President of my university's LGBTQ pre-law organization.
- Current Events Director of my fraternity.
- Lots of HIV/AIDS advocacy within the gay community since high school.


Misc: Over the summer, I took two (international law) classes as part of a study abroad program through a Midwest law school (aced both courses with letter of rec. from a dean of the law school). Fluent in 4 languages.

I know my GPA/LSAT is pretty low for the T5, so is retaking the LSAT a good idea?
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Re: 3.69 / 167 (urm) T5?

Post by kevgogators » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:48 am

Affirmative action will land you HYS probably.
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Re: 3.69 / 167 (urm) T5?

Post by 03152016 » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:56 am

what's a t5
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Re: 3.69 / 167 (urm) T5?

Post by whitespider » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:57 am

Gay Male AA with a 166/3.7?

I suspect you'll have a decent cycle.

Best Guess:
In at H, good shot at YS, tons of cash in the lower T14.
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Re: 3.69 / 167 (urm) T5?

Post by yayarea21 » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:01 am

whitespider wrote:Gay Male AA with a 166/3.7?

I suspect you'll have a decent cycle.

Best Guess:
In at H, good shot at YS, tons of cash in the lower T14.

Do schools round GPA up? ps - thanks for your response.
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Re: 3.69 / 167 (urm) T5?

Post by whitespider » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:02 am

Nah, but a 3.69 is pretty much a 3.7
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Re: 3.69 / 167 (urm) T5?

Post by 03152016 » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:02 am

no they don't

what is t5?
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Re: 3.69 / 167 (urm) T5?

Post by whitespider » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:04 am

Brut, I don't think he was trying to insult you kindly people of NYU.
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Re: 3.69 / 167 (urm) T5?

Post by el madrileno » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:04 am

Brut wrote:no they don't

what is t5?
TTTTT shorthand
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Re: 3.69 / 167 (urm) T5?

Post by 03152016 » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:06 am

el madrileno wrote:
Brut wrote:no they don't

what is t5?
TTTTT shorthand
ah
well good thing mcl dean is a regular poster
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Re: 3.69 / 167 (urm) T5?

Post by yayarea21 » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:09 am

whitespider wrote:Brut, I don't think he was trying to insult you kindly people of NYU.
NYU has by far the top international law program in the country and I am definitely applying there.
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Re: 3.69 / 167 (urm) T5?

Post by sesto elemento » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:23 am

yayarea21 wrote:
whitespider wrote:Brut, I don't think he was trying to insult you kindly people of NYU.
NYU has by far the top international law program in the country and I am definitely applying there.
Don't apply to NYU its ranked sixth and thus falls outside your t-5 ranking range.


Serious answer: apply to the T-13* follow the money. If you do apply to NYU and your a first gen student then apply to their Anbryce program. Are you also low SES? Cuz if so then HYS will give you need based grants and you'll receive plenty of $$$ from the other T-13 schools.


*The T-14 is no longer a thing, GULC needs to get its shit together.
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Re: 3.69 / 167 (urm) T5?

Post by yayarea21 » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:33 am

sesto elemento wrote:
yayarea21 wrote:
whitespider wrote:Brut, I don't think he was trying to insult you kindly people of NYU.
NYU has by far the top international law program in the country and I am definitely applying there.
Don't apply to NYU its ranked sixth and thus falls outside your t-5 ranking range.


Serious answer: apply to the T-13* follow the money. If you do apply to NYU and your a first gen student then apply to their Anbryce program. Are you also low SES? Cuz if so then HYS will give you need based grants and you'll receive plenty of $$$ from the other T-13 schools.


*The T-14 is no longer a thing, GULC needs to get its shit together.
Yeah, I'm first gen as well as SES. Thanks for your reply.
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Re: 3.69 / 167 (urm) T5?

Post by yayarea21 » Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:45 pm

any more feedback?
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Re: 3.69 / 167 (urm) T5?

Post by Rigo » Sat Sep 13, 2014 11:37 am

yayarea21 wrote:any more feedback?
Yale, Harvard, Stanford, Columbia, Chicago, NYU, Penn, UVA, Berkeley, Michigan, Duke, Northwestern, Cornell.

A retake never hurts.
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Re: 3.69 / 167 (urm) T5?

Post by star fox » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:40 pm

Brut wrote:what's a t5
Egregious anti- NYU trolling.
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Re: 3.69 / 167 (urm) T5?

Post by sesto elemento » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:43 pm

john7234797 wrote:
Brut wrote:what's a t5
Egregious anti- NYU trolling.
yayarea21 wrote:
whitespider wrote:Brut, I don't think he was trying to insult you kindly people of NYU.
NYU has by far the top international law program in the country and I am definitely applying there.
OP is just clueless. Hence the birth of this thread.
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Re: 3.69 / 167 (urm) T5?

Post by McAvoy » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:48 pm

yayarea21 wrote:
whitespider wrote:Brut, I don't think he was trying to insult you kindly people of NYU.
NYU has by far the top international law program in the country and I am definitely applying there.
tee hee
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Re: 3.69 / 167 (urm) T5?

Post by star fox » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:53 pm

OP, common sense markers for arbitrary cutoffs are going to be things like Top 5, Top 10, Top 20, Top 50 but for purposes of TLS the cutoffs are the top 3 (usually just referred to as HYS since saying T3 is easily confused with Tier 3 or TTT) followed by T6 (aforementioned 3 plus Columbia chicago and nyu) then T13 (+Penn Virginia michigan Boalt Duke Northwestern Cornell) and T14 (+Georgetown).
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Re: 3.69 / 167 (urm) T5?

Post by McAvoy » Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:20 pm

Also don't say anything about wanting "international law" if you ever want people to take you seriously
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Re: 3.69 / 167 (urm) T5?

Post by Attax » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:07 pm

McAvoy wrote:Also don't say anything about wanting "international law" if you ever want people to take you seriously
OP you should have more refined goals. I even had a prof talk about how practicing international law isn't a real thing.
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