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kevgogators · Post by **kevgogators** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:17 pm

You're golden, pony boy.

I'd say guaranteed lock at CCN, and possibly a YHS acceptance.

MT Cicero · Post by **MT Cicero** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:19 pm

If you're just looking for where you think you might get in, I'd put the following chances out there:

-Y/S: 1-3%
-H: 20-30%
-CCN: probably snag 2 of these, with NYU being one
-Lower T14: In at most of them

Now that I've thrown some rando numbers at you...what are you looking for? Where are you targeting and why? You applying this coming cycle? Is your GI Bill at 100% (meaning you're Yellow Ribbon eligible)?

Provide some more details and folks on the forum are happy to answer questions. You have great numbers, so if you're at 100%, you're likely going to win the law school game, at least in terms of debt. Almost every T14 is completely free for 100% GI Bill types.

The main thing you can focus on is preparing stellar recommendations & PS. Don't just rely on the "I'm in the military and it's made me the man I am today" type of PS. Really put some work in to make it unique. That could mean the difference for the T3/T6.

LTMVD · Post by **LTMVD** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:38 pm

MT Cicero · Post by **MT Cicero** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:51 pm

LTMVD wrote:I would like to get BigLaw in Chicago so I was originally targeting Northwestern. Wasn't sure if my numbers were solid enough for YHS or CCN.

I'm not going for it this cycle which gives me another year to study up to try to get my lsat a bit higher.

As far as the GI Bill goes, I'm not going to get the YR program but will be done with 36 months of active duty service which helps overall.

I'll definitely put effort into the PS when I am ready to start submitting the applications, but is there anything else I should do if I am targeting H?

Why won't you get YRP if you have 36 months of active duty service, which should get you to 100% GI Bill. YRP is automatic.

If you're not going for this cycle, another couple points on the LSAT will really go a long way toward giving you a coin flip at H and probably a really good shot at Chicago as well. Perhaps target June 2015 so you can use July/August to get your shit in a sock for the application process and turn in apps early. That'll help.

NU is almost a lock with your numbers, and that's where I'll be heading in a month.

All in all, you're in damn good shape to attend a great school at what should be very little cost.

LTMVD · Post by **LTMVD** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:14 pm

Ti Malice · Post by **Ti Malice** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:38 am

Soco Law wrote:If you're just looking for where you think you might get in, I'd put the following chances out there:

-Y/S: 1-3%
-H: 20-30%
-CCN: probably snag 2 of these, with NYU being one
-Lower T14: In at most of them

You're underestimating the military bump. If the rest of his app is in good shape (and if there are no major C&F issues to deal with), he'll sweep everything in the T14 except possibly YHS, and he'll have better than even odds at H.

winstonsalem · Post by **winstonsalem** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:04 am

I agree that you're in good shape for CCN/lower T14 and have decent odds at HYS. Since you get two more tries at the LSAT anyway, I would still advise that you take the LSAT again to get the best score you can. To give you an idea of what the military boost looks like, here are some comparable military applicants to you from LSN:

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/bahama
3.6, 171, Harvard, Stanford, Chicago, NYU, Penn, UVA, Northwestern, Duke, Berkeley, Michigan

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/SchusterFlook
3.6, 171, NYU, Georgetown, Vanderbilt, Chicago, UPenn, UVA

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/thedave29
3.61, 169, UPenn, UVA, Cornell, Georgetown, Cornell

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/usafgirl
3.56, 176, NYU, Stanford, Columbia, Harvard, Duke, Berkeley, Georgetown

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/Seaborn'16
3.5, 175, Stanford, Columbia, UVA, NYU, Duke, UPenn, Chicago

MT Cicero · Post by **MT Cicero** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:03 am

Ti Malice wrote:
Soco Law wrote:If you're just looking for where you think you might get in, I'd put the following chances out there:

-Y/S: 1-3%
-H: 20-30%
-CCN: probably snag 2 of these, with NYU being one
-Lower T14: In at most of them
You're underestimating the military bump. If the rest of his app is in good shape (and if there are no major C&F issues to deal with), he'll sweep everything in the T14 except possibly YHS, and he'll have better than even odds at H.

I wasn't underestimating it. I've known/talked to tons of vets on here and have a fair working knowledge of plenty of military cycles. The bump is real, but it's not enough to state the bolded above.

Maybe H is more like 30-40%, S is 10-15%, Y is 5-10%, I don't know. But I don't quite put him better than even at H. LSN shows his numbers as 0% for Y/S and 8% for H. The military bump doesn't necessarily make those numbers jump up uber-significantly.

Who knows what the cycle in 2015-16 will look like? I suspect we'll still be in a decent trough, so that'll probably help. I just think two points on the LSAT will get him to your bolded statement above. I'm not quite ready to pronounce someone with a sub-25th GPA at HYSChi who's not at/above the 75th LSAT for any T6 as solid a lock.

Also, with yield protect, I expect a couple rando lower T14's to WL/possibly ding. I can see Berk (the GPA lover) doing it.

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