What are my odds? Forum

CCM4 · Post by **CCM4** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:13 am

152 LSAT with a 2.75 GPA

Extracurricular activities, leadership positions every year of undergrad, work experience, two internships one with a judge and one with a law firm. Also, I have national and state awards for the organization I was in during my undergrad, and community service.

I'm applying to schools in New York and Florida.

transferror · Post by **transferror** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:17 am

Not good. Retake.

Mack.Hambleton · Post by **Mack.Hambleton** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:31 pm

retake or dont go

SnakySalmon · Post by **SnakySalmon** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:00 pm

Retake, and try to be URM if at all possible.

isuperserial · Post by **isuperserial** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:01 am

CCM4 wrote:152 LSAT with a 2.75 GPA

Extracurricular activities, leadership positions every year of undergrad, work experience, two internships one with a judge and one with a law firm. Also, I have national and state awards for the organization I was in during my undergrad, and community service.

I'm applying to schools in New York and Florida.

You need an LSAT higher than a 160 before the conversation about chances even begins, usually. With that GPA, you need at least a 165. I almost never say this, but retake and if you don't get at least that, don't go.

Nova · Post by **Nova** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:06 am

Start studying again now

reasonable_man · Post by **reasonable_man** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:12 am

What odds? The odds that some shit-kicker law school will accept you with no scholarship so that you'll be paying full price, come out with $210,000 in debt, and then go on to earn 42K per year with no benefits at some shitlaw mill, wearing a cheap suit and calling out cases in the hallways of Brooklyn Civil Court and then "litigating" a no fault auto insurance claim for $68 dollars worth of reimbursements for acupuncture treatment... I'd say about 96%...

lastsamurai · Post by **lastsamurai** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:30 pm

Oh boy...please do not go to law school without another 16-20 points on that LSAT

eljefe1 · Post by **eljefe1** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:33 pm

lmaooooo. I love these kind of troll posts

Nova · Post by **Nova** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:38 pm

eljefe1 wrote:lmaooooo. I love these kind of troll posts

50% of test takers scored 152 or below. You get that, right?

bkraut1 · Post by **bkraut1** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:08 pm

You need a 167+ with that GPA to have a shot at somewhere worth going. Honestly you'll probably still be in a bad position with that score, but if you are URM it might be worth working towards. Law school is not in the cards with these numbers.

Also, your numbers don't suggest that you are someone who would actually want to go to law school. If you got a 2.75 in undergrad how do you think you'd fare in law school where, as a rule of thumb, everyone actually tries to do well? Not well is my guess. Its obviously not something you're too invested in so quit while you're ahead and save yourself from financial ruin.

Nova · Post by **Nova** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:23 pm

bkraut1 wrote:You need a 167+ with that GPA to have a shot at somewhere worth going. Honestly you'll probably still be in a bad position with that score, but if you are URM it might be worth working towards. Law school is not in the cards with these numbers.

Also, your numbers don't suggest that you are someone who would actually want to go to law school. If you got a 2.75 in undergrad how do you think you'd fare in law school where, as a rule of thumb, everyone actually tries to do well? Not well is my guess. Its obviously not something you're too invested in so quit while you're ahead and save yourself from financial ruin.

I know several of Sub3 UGPA kids kicking 3.8+ UGPA kids asses.

Sure, there are plenty of splitters that keep coasting once they get LS, but plenty end up applying themselves & wrecking shop.

transferror · Post by **transferror** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:26 pm

bkraut1 wrote:Also, your numbers don't suggest that you are someone who would actually want to go to law school. If you got a 2.75 in undergrad how do you think you'd fare in law school where, as a rule of thumb, everyone actually tries to do well? Not well is my guess. Its obviously not something you're too invested in so quit while you're ahead and save yourself from financial ruin.

This is stupid. Generally, UGPA is a terrible predictor of law school performance. It might be a decent predictor for someone with a 4.0 from a top UG or a 2.5 from a shitty UG (if the person was legitimately trying to do well the whole time), but there are tons of intelligent ppl who party too hard in UG. There are tons of mediocre students with excellent study habits who do well in UG (regurgitating facts for a test) but lack the analytical skills necessary to perform on law school exams.

Full disclosure: I'm probably biased because I had a terrible (as in worse than OP's) GPA from UG.

CCM4 · Post by **CCM4** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:00 pm

OP here, just want to say I got accepted into a few schools with scholarships and waitlisted to St. John's and Cardozo. Ultimately decided to go to Florida, and I have a 3.9 GPA at my school.

DavidConeSplitter · Post by **DavidConeSplitter** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:08 pm

CCM4 wrote:OP here, just want to say I got accepted into a few schools with scholarships and waitlisted to St. John's and Cardozo. Ultimately decided to go to Florida, and I have a 3.9 GPA at my school.

Congrats! Did you end up retaking the LSAT? What was your score ultimately?

CCM4 · Post by **CCM4** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:12 pm

DavidConeSplitter wrote:
CCM4 wrote:OP here, just want to say I got accepted into a few schools with scholarships and waitlisted to St. John's and Cardozo. Ultimately decided to go to Florida, and I have a 3.9 GPA at my school.
Congrats! Did you end up retaking the LSAT? What was your score ultimately?

Thank you so much! I did retake, got a 158.

ballcaps · Post by **ballcaps** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:41 pm

CCM4 wrote:OP here...Ultimately decided to go to Florida, and I have a 3.9 GPA at my school.

that's amazing, congratulations. hopefully you didn't take out tons of loans...

CCM4 · Post by **CCM4** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:58 pm

ballcaps wrote:
CCM4 wrote:OP here...Ultimately decided to go to Florida, and I have a 3.9 GPA at my school.
that's amazing, congratulations. hopefully you didn't take out tons of loans...

I only took out loans for my tuition, which wasn't that much with the scholarship and some of my savings. After rankings come out soon the amount increases, so I'm excited to see if it'll go up. Thanks!

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