3.31 / 171 / Grade Deflation Undergrad / +Full Time Work Exp Forum
- gatesome
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3.31 / 171 / Grade Deflation Undergrad / +Full Time Work Exp
Hello all,
3.31 GPA (significant major change caused a couple C/C+ which dragged down GPA) at a liberal arts school notorious for grade deflation
171 LSAT, single take
3 years work as legal assistant intern at a commercial real estate development company (significant legal experience)
1 year full time employment as legal assistant at NYC law firm
8 years mock trial (college + high school)
I have not applied yet. Applying next cycle. What are my chances for/should I apply to:
Stanford
Columbia
Cornell
NYU
Boston College
University of Virginia
UC Berkley
Syracuse
University at Buffalo
University of Florida (Tallahassee)
3.31 GPA (significant major change caused a couple C/C+ which dragged down GPA) at a liberal arts school notorious for grade deflation
171 LSAT, single take
3 years work as legal assistant intern at a commercial real estate development company (significant legal experience)
1 year full time employment as legal assistant at NYC law firm
8 years mock trial (college + high school)
I have not applied yet. Applying next cycle. What are my chances for/should I apply to:
Stanford
Columbia
Cornell
NYU
Boston College
University of Virginia
UC Berkley
Syracuse
University at Buffalo
University of Florida (Tallahassee)
- Tekrul
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Re: 3.31 / 171 / Grade Deflation Undergrad / +Full Time Work Exp
IMO, take Stanford off the list. Not worth paying for the rejection there. Boston, Syracuse, buffalo, and Florida don't belong on your list either, unless it comes free and you want live in the state. Berkeley likes their GPA > LSAT so you're the wrong kind of splitter there. ED nyu or Columbia if you really want them.
Then again, retake the LSAT and get even 1 point higher and you're beating 75th at both schools. Get 3+ points and Columbia and nyu come with $ and Cornell/UVA $$. I'd stick to applying only to the t-14 starting at CCN and down unless you've got real fixed plans to take a top regional school for serious money and want to settle down/work there.
Then again, retake the LSAT and get even 1 point higher and you're beating 75th at both schools. Get 3+ points and Columbia and nyu come with $ and Cornell/UVA $$. I'd stick to applying only to the t-14 starting at CCN and down unless you've got real fixed plans to take a top regional school for serious money and want to settle down/work there.
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Re: 3.31 / 171 / Grade Deflation Undergrad / +Full Time Work Exp
is this school Princeton, or does that not count as a LAC? Stanford does pretty holistic reviews, if it's a school that's ACTUALLY well-known for grade deflation then I would throw an app their direction, too.
- DrStudMuffin
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Re: 3.31 / 171 / Grade Deflation Undergrad / +Full Time Work Exp
Or OP could light some money on fire. Both options would be similarly productive.scoobers wrote:is this school Princeton, or does that not count as a LAC? Stanford does pretty holistic reviews, if it's a school that's ACTUALLY well-known for grade deflation then I would throw an app their direction, too.

I wouldn't waste the time/$ for Stanford, unless you've got money to burn. Apply CCN on down.
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Re: 3.31 / 171 / Grade Deflation Undergrad / +Full Time Work Exp
My money is on the LAC being Swarthmore. I would send apps to CCN down- high LSATS (170+) are rarer and rarer.
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- TheSpanishMain
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Re: 3.31 / 171 / Grade Deflation Undergrad / +Full Time Work Exp
Florida is in Gainesville. Florida State is in Tallahassee.
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Re: 3.31 / 171 / Grade Deflation Undergrad / +Full Time Work Exp
Don't bother with Stanford.
No admissions committee cares about grade deflation they care about keeping their numbers up, a 4.0 at the worst garbage school is worth more than a 3.31 at the best schools, as long as both come with high LSAT scores.
No admissions committee cares about grade deflation they care about keeping their numbers up, a 4.0 at the worst garbage school is worth more than a 3.31 at the best schools, as long as both come with high LSAT scores.
- midwest17
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Re: 3.31 / 171 / Grade Deflation Undergrad / +Full Time Work Exp
The problem is that you're applying non-YS logic to S.Cellar-door wrote:Don't bother with Stanford.
No admissions committee cares about grade deflation they care about keeping their numbers up, a 4.0 at the worst garbage school is worth more than a 3.31 at the best schools, as long as both come with high LSAT scores.
But I agree that Stanford won't happen.
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Re: 3.31 / 171 / Grade Deflation Undergrad / +Full Time Work Exp
They've taken 2 non-URM students below a 3.5 in the last 5 years according to LSN and both were over 175. And Neither was as low as 3.4. They have a hard GPA floor and fight hard to keep that 3.85 GPA, with the decrease in applicants a few 3.5 or so GPAs slip in to get those 175+ LSATs, but the only way they really play around with distinguishing by undergrad is among top GPAs.midwest17 wrote:The problem is that you're applying non-YS logic to S.Cellar-door wrote:Don't bother with Stanford.
No admissions committee cares about grade deflation they care about keeping their numbers up, a 4.0 at the worst garbage school is worth more than a 3.31 at the best schools, as long as both come with high LSAT scores.
But I agree that Stanford won't happen.
- phillywc
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Re: 3.31 / 171 / Grade Deflation Undergrad / +Full Time Work Exp
FWIW, I have a higher GPA and LSAT and I felt like I was flushing 100 dollars down the toilet when I submitted my Stanford app. I'd apply everywhere else on your list and prepare for a unpredictable cycle.
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Re: 3.31 / 171 / Grade Deflation Undergrad / +Full Time Work Exp
sorry I'm just an optimistic person 

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