173/3.82/Re-applying Forum

[dnptan]

Hi all,

Hoping for some feedback on my app and where to focus my efforts. Applied last year with the following stats:

Stats: 170/3.82; Engineering/Biology Double Major (Boston U)
Major Softs: Work in IP law (consulting); Founded a startup (failed)
Misc: International (bilingual, non-US citizen)
LoR: 2 from employer (I have 2 managers), 2 from Profs (One from ENG, one from Bio)
PS: My startup

WL at H then rejected. Wondering if I can get in with these updated stats:

Stats: 173/3.82
New Softs: Guest Lecturer (Boston University - Topic: IP in Engineering); Second year in consulting with recruitment experience; Volunteer tour guide (Non-profit international Org)

Think I can get in HYS with this? I also need advice on my LoRs and PS.

LoRs: Keeping the same ones from the profs (nothing new); Updated ones from ONE manager at work; Fourth from my volunteer work manager (Is this a good idea?)
PS: No idea what to write on. I don't want to use the same one, or even use the same topic. Suggestions?

Thanks all.

[OVOXO]

Law school predictor raises your chances at H from 30% with the 170 to 49% with the 173. I know you probably don’t want to hear this, but I’d retake if I were in your shoes. Even a 1 point increase would give you a better than 50-50 chance at H if you really want to go there.

If not, write a stellar PS and hope/pray for the best (and kill your interview)

[dnptan]

Thanks for the quick reply!

I don't mind retaking, but I'll probably do so next year. Having a stable job really makes waiting another year for law school no big deal. But if I take more than one test a year I feel my performance will start getting affected, haha. I'll work on maximizing the rest of my application for this year!

[Lavitz]

I think you'll get H this year.

LoRs: Keeping the same ones from the profs (nothing new); Updated ones from ONE manager at work; Fourth from my volunteer work manager (Is this a good idea?)

Send those 3. Probably not the volunteer one.

[Ti Malice]

Law school predictor raises your chances at H from 30% with the 170 to 49% with the 173.

LSP is worthless. Use LSN and myLSN.info. I wish the mods would sticky a notice to this effect at the top of every forum so we wouldn't have to explain this anew every fall. But, alas, one of the mods founded that site.

OP, I also think you're likely to get H, given that you were WL'd last year despite -- being substantially below both medians. H is going to have to work even harder to maintain its 173 median this year.

I'd also leave out the volunteer manager LOR. One employment LOR is enough.

[drawstring]

Sorry to highjack, but I have similar goal schools and numbers (173/4.15).

Do these make me close to a lock at H?

[Ti Malice]

Sorry to highjack, but I have similar goal schools and numbers (173/4.15).

Do these make me close to a lock at H?

Yes, unless you majored in criminal justice, kinesiology, or something held in similarly low regard.

[jbagelboy]

I think you'll have a great second cycle. You should get H! As you probably already know, GPA considerations might be a little more difficult at Yale and maybe Stanford, but good luck!

[dnptan]

Thanks for the advice all.

Any ideas on how I can make my app stronger? Think just applying to HYS is safe enough, or should I add in CCN to the mix?

[DrStudMuffin]

That seems foolish.