3.5 171 took test 3 times Forum

moopness · Post by **moopness** » Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:04 am

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midwest17 · Post by **midwest17** » Sun Oct 06, 2013 1:10 am

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moopness · Post by **moopness** » Sun Oct 06, 2013 1:14 am

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Right, so I'm aware of the predictor and all but will the new lower medians affect anything??

splitcity · Post by **splitcity** » Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:19 am

I think a 171 should mean a little bit more than than it did a year or two ago. Applications are down about 20-30,000 from about 3-4 years ago and as you can tell by the falling medians, there are less and less school that are able to maintain 170+. So I think your 171 give you a decent chance at NYU, maybe Columbia too if you ED.

moopness · Post by **moopness** » Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:36 am

splitcity wrote:I think a 171 should mean a little bit more than than it did a year or two ago. Applications are down about 20-30,000 from about 3-4 years ago and as you can tell by the falling medians, there are less and less school that are able to maintain 170+. So I think your 171 give you a decent chance at NYU, maybe Columbia too if you ED.

Thanks for the reply! I'm definitely willing to ED if that'll significantly improve my chances, so that's great news.

Clearly · Post by **Clearly** » Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:48 am

I believe Columbia recently announced a 171 median. I'd say personally my guess is at best 50/50.

pupshaw · Post by **pupshaw** » Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:14 am

Someone can correct me if this is no longer the case, but in previous cycles the perception was that ED didn't increase your chances much at Columbia, at least relative to the increase other ED schools. OP, in your position I would probably try to ED NYU.

jbagelboy · Post by **jbagelboy** » Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:02 pm

I think Columbia is still unlikely with a 3.5, although its not impossible. Most students in the 3.4-3.6 range were either 75th%ile LSAT, urm, or from HYPCS undergrad w/ strong softs and got a little float. With blegh WE and softs, your chances are not impossible, but not great. Same goes for UChicago, where even more emphasis is traditionally placed on GPA.

Conversely, you should be in at NYU. Also Penn and UVA if you write convincing "Why X" essays. For most legal jobs, the difference in opportunities between schools like NYU, Penn, Chicago and Columbia is negligible.

moopness · Post by **moopness** » Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:05 pm

Thank you all for the help, I really appreciate it. This makes me feel a lot better. Thanks again guys/gals!

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