3.65 & 167/175 Forum

[greennblue]

3.65 GPA from top 25 university and 167 LSAT first time with a 175 LSAT on the second go around. What are chances at CCN schools? I've checked mylsn.info but want to see what people think, especially with the split and schools averaging the two scores. Thanks!

[nebula666]

As close to a lock as can be at CLS and NYU. Chicago could be a WL but definitely not a ding. Not great chances at Harvard but still wouldn't be incredibly surprised.

Should also net serious money if not full rides at UVA, Duke, NU, Cornell, and GULC.

[Lavitz]

want to see what people think, especially with the split and schools averaging the two scores.

That's not going to happen.

Great shot at NYU and Columbia. Okay shot at Chicago, but they care more about the GPA median than the other two.

[greennblue]

Thanks for the feedback. I thought with the 175 it'd definitely help my chances but then I started reading about schools like CLS and NYU averaging the two scores, which would knock me down to 171 territory. Just curious, but why wouldn't they take the average instead of the higher score?

[Lavitz]

Thanks for the feedback. I thought with the 175 it'd definitely help my chances but then I started reading about schools like CLS and NYU averaging the two scores, which would knock me down to 171 territory. Just curious, but why wouldn't they take the average instead of the higher score?

USNWR gives them an incentive to not do that. The rankings use the medians derived from all the applicants' highest scores, so there's no reason for them average.

For all intents and purposes you have a 175. The schools would be shooting themselves in the foot if they denied someone above their LSAT median just because they once had a score below the median.

[nebula666]

Thanks for the feedback. I thought with the 175 it'd definitely help my chances but then I started reading about schools like CLS and NYU averaging the two scores, which would knock me down to 171 territory. Just curious, but why wouldn't they take the average instead of the higher score?

What possible benefit is there to taking the average score? Only accepting people who did well their first time? That makes no sense. You really think that someone who gets 165 and then 175 should be viewed the same as someone who got a 170 the first time? There are rumors of Yale doing this but outside of that it's an admissions myth. The only scores with which schools represent their medians are the highest ones.

[Clearly]

Thanks for the feedback. I thought with the 175 it'd definitely help my chances but then I started reading about schools like CLS and NYU averaging the two scores, which would knock me down to 171 territory. Just curious, but why wouldn't they take the average instead of the higher score?

Schools don't average. The reason is in 2006, the ABA Section of Legal Education & Admissions voted to change how schools have to report admissions from average to highest score. This means the data that finds its way to the rankings (USNWR) is only highest score, and therefore, schools don't have an incentive to average as it would hurt their medians, and they are competing with schools that don't average. That said, some schools still claim to average, but even then, the data suggest they don't.