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163 lsat, 3.3/3.4 gpa

Post by mk09j » Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:27 pm

Great softs, what are my chances at American, BU, BC, and Fordham? I'm a little worried about my gpa, any help would be appreciated.

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Re: 163 lsat, 3.3/3.4 gpa

Post by Nova » Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:34 pm

mk09j wrote:Great softs, what are my chances at American, BU, BC, and Fordham? I'm a little worried about my gpa, any help would be appreciated.
You are below both medians at BC/BU/F.... so youre very likely out at all of them.

Dont go to American. Retake.

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Re: 163 lsat, 3.3/3.4 gpa

Post by jump_man » Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:47 pm

I had 3.4/165 and got WL at Fordham. Is retake an option?

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Re: 163 lsat, 3.3/3.4 gpa

Post by mk09j » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:35 pm

You are below both medians at BC/BU/F.... so youre very likely out at all of them.

Dont go to American. Retake.[/quote]

Aside from the tuition, why not American? I could definitely improve my lsat, but could I retake in February and still apply for the upcoming fall.

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Post by Rahviveh » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:36 pm

mk09j wrote: Aside from the tuition, why not American? I could definitely improve my lsat, but could I retake in February and still apply for the upcoming fall.
http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=american

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Post by Nova » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:55 pm

mk09j wrote: Aside from the tuition, why not American? I could definitely improve my lsat, but could I retake in February and still apply for the upcoming fall.
You have like a 1 in 3 shot of getting a full time long term JD required legal job coming out of American. Its a trap.

Yes. But if I were you, I would apply now. Schools that want you will accept you before the retake. Schools that dont want you may reject you, but will certainly reconsider after you score better.

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Post by Crowing » Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:19 am

mk09j wrote: Aside from the tuition, why not American? I could definitely improve my lsat, but could I retake in February and still apply for the upcoming fall.
American is a prime example of why USNWR rankings are by themselves useless. It's a school that vastly underperforms its ranking peers in employment prospects.

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Post by Gator_Law » Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:10 am

ChampagnePapi wrote:
mk09j wrote: Aside from the tuition, why not American? I could definitely improve my lsat, but could I retake in February and still apply for the upcoming fall.
http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=american
There are 5 law schools in the very small area of DC and American is 3rd best. Not to mention a lot of grads from top schools around the country end up in DC. The ranking is deceiving as compared to a school like Utah or Colorado which are similarly ranked but don't face nearly the same level of competition as you would out of American.

Don't spend $250,000 for a 1/3 chance of good employment.

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Re: 163 lsat, 3.3/3.4 gpa

Post by TheThriller » Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:01 pm

Gator_Law wrote:
ChampagnePapi wrote:
mk09j wrote: Aside from the tuition, why not American? I could definitely improve my lsat, but could I retake in February and still apply for the upcoming fall.
http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=american
There are 5 law schools in the very small area of DC and American is 3rd best. Not to mention a lot of grads from top schools around the country end up in DC. The ranking is deceiving as compared to a school like Utah or Colorado which are similarly ranked but don't face nearly the same level of competition as you would out of American.

Don't spend $250,000 for a 1/3 chance of good employment.

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Re: 163 lsat, 3.3/3.4 gpa

Post by In This Economy? » Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:08 pm

Gator_Law wrote:
ChampagnePapi wrote:
mk09j wrote: Don't spend $250,000 for a 1/3 chance of good employment.
In this economy?

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Re: 163 lsat, 3.3/3.4 gpa

Post by Crowing » Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:40 pm

Gator_Law wrote:
ChampagnePapi wrote:
mk09j wrote: Aside from the tuition, why not American? I could definitely improve my lsat, but could I retake in February and still apply for the upcoming fall.
http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=american
There are 5 law schools in the very small area of DC and American is 3rd best. Not to mention a lot of grads from top schools around the country end up in DC. The ranking is deceiving as compared to a school like Utah or Colorado which are similarly ranked but don't face nearly the same level of competition as you would out of American.

Don't spend $250,000 for a 1/3 chance of good employment.
Really American is 4th because George Mason is essentially a DC school. American = TTT in disguise.

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Re: 163 lsat, 3.3/3.4 gpa

Post by romothesavior » Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:51 pm

mk09j wrote:Great softs, what are my chances at American, BU, BC, and Fordham? I'm a little worried about my gpa, any help would be appreciated.
You should be worried about your LSAT more than anything. You need to retake and get another 7-10 points to offset your GPA, otherwise you are looking at spending a lot of money on a mediocre degree. None of these schools, even assuming you could get into them, are worth sticker. You really need to retake.

Also, unless you're a Rhodes Scholar or a famous person or a combat vet, your softs aren't going to do a whole lot to offset your low GPA/LSAT.

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