2.173 / 171 Forum

[Real Madrid]

You're obviously a relatively smart guy (as evidenced by your LSAT)

lol

Aw, come on. You have to admit that a 170+ shows some indication of hard work and/or natural intelligence. I'm not saying it's MENSA worthy, but if you can a score like that I believe you can do fairly well in a number of other non-technical fields.

Not saying it's Mensa worthy? You're right - being in the top 1-2% of LSAT takers (read: college students; i.e. not the general population) isn't all that impressive. Just evidence of someone being relatively/decently smart.

For all the smart people on TLS, some of you seriously have no common sense at all.

[sunynp]

Not to be rude, but why do you want to go to law school?

You're obviously a relatively smart guy (as evidenced by your LSAT), but the odds are stacked against you for law school admissions because of your grades. Why not go into finance? If you're decent at math you work at an investment bank or a hedge fund in NYC or something. You'll actually make real money and won't have the debt. If you can crush the LSAT, you can get a CFA and be better off (and in NYC), IMO.

Because I want to be a lawyer. I wish I had a more detailed answer but I really don't. I've wanted to be a lawyer for the majority of my life, I find the study of the rules we all live by to be extremely interesting and important. I had my problems in college, which, suffice to say, I handled in a pretty shitty manner. Now after a few years of working and distancing myself from my grades, I'm hoping I can still get to the place I've always wanted to be.

EDIT: Also, I'm shit at math.

OP: I asked you an honest question. I think that you need to ED to Virginia to get a shot at a school that will get you employed. The schools in the area you want to live that will accept you are not worth the price.

It is possible to sublease apartments or even break leases. If you don't want to do that, then work some more and go to law school later. Law school isn't going anywhere and it looks like it is just getting easier and easier to get in with a decent LSAT.

Your wife is either going to have to go with you or stay and do a long distance thing.

I honestly am telling you that your stats coupled with your geographical limitations mean that you should not go to law school. Apply if it makes you happy and see where you get in and if you can get some money. Fordham at sticker makes no sense.

[bizzybone1313]

If I had that GPA and LSAT, I would apply to the T-14 every year until they accepted me. I wouldn't care if it took 3-4 years. I wonder if anyone has ever tried that. Eventually you would think some of them would cave and admit you. Your LSAT/GPA combination is unreal. Come back and tell TLS how your cycle(s) turn out.

[writeaboutnow]

OK So after reading some advice here and debating with myself, I'm going to apply to a bunch of regional schools and see if I get any $$$. If I do I'll probably go that route. I'm also going to apply to some of the more splitter friendly t14/t1 schools and see what happens. Thanks for the advice. Feel free to comment if you feel I'm making an asinine choice.

[TheThriller]

OK So after reading some advice here and debating with myself, I'm going to apply to a bunch of regional schools and see if I get any $$$. If I do I'll probably go that route. I'm also going to apply to some of the more splitter friendly t14/t1 schools and see what happens. Thanks for the advice. Feel free to comment if you feel I'm making an asinine choice.

you're making asinine choices

[quiver]

Ha yea your point is taken. I guess a better way to phrase what I mean is, assuming I have a reasonable baseline level of intelligence, if I go to a lower ranked school and follow the advice given by xeoh85 and others, do you think I have a better than average chance or being able to transfer? Or is law school exam grading really as unpredictable and subjective as some here would have me believe?

Honestly, you probably have a better chance than other students, but that still doesn't mean you have a good chance. If someone said you had a 15% chance of being in the top 10%, would you go at full price? You shouldn't hang your hat on transferring.

I personally do not think attending a lower ranked school with lots of scholarship money is necessarily a bad plan, but I wanted to voice my agreement with InGoodFaith here. Make whatever decision you think is best but do NOT base it on being able to transfer; it's unrealistic and improbable.

PS: this is coming from a former transfer

[Miracle]

You are almost in the same boat as me

[writeaboutnow]

OK So after reading some advice here and debating with myself, I'm going to apply to a bunch of regional schools and see if I get any $$$. If I do I'll probably go that route. I'm also going to apply to some of the more splitter friendly t14/t1 schools and see what happens. Thanks for the advice. Feel free to comment if you feel I'm making an asinine choice.

you're making asinine choices

Ha OK, TheThriller, why do you say that?

[ndirish2010]

Would OP really have no shot at NU? OP has WE and a 171, what else do they want?

[JCFindley]

OP, maybe I missed it in here but do you have any WE? WE could make a world of difference at more than a few schools.

Specifically in the NYC area, Fordham and RU-N come to mind. Not sure if you would get $$$ from either and if you didn't, then RU-N with in state tuition is probably the better option but it would depend on your career goals as well.

Frankly, the only way you will know is to try.

Now, whether either of these schools is worth sticker is a completely different debate that I will stay out of.

[ndirish2010]

Fordham is absolutely not worth sticker. There is no way you could take the other side of that debate.

[writeaboutnow]

OP, maybe I missed it in here but do you have any WE? WE could make a world of difference at more than a few schools.

Specifically in the NYC area, Fordham and RU-N come to mind. Not sure if you would get $$$ from either and if you didn't, then RU-N with in state tuition is probably the better option but it would depend on your career goals as well.

Frankly, the only way you will know is to try.

Now, whether either of these schools is worth sticker is a completely different debate that I will stay out of.

I have 2 years of WE, 3 by the time I would start classes.

[ndirish2010]

If your wife could possibly get a job in Chicago, I would ED NU.

[TheThriller]

OK So after reading some advice here and debating with myself, I'm going to apply to a bunch of regional schools and see if I get any $$$. If I do I'll probably go that route. I'm also going to apply to some of the more splitter friendly t14/t1 schools and see what happens. Thanks for the advice. Feel free to comment if you feel I'm making an asinine choice.

you're making asinine choices

Ha OK, TheThriller, why do you say that?

Because you left yourself open for someone to say it

[Crowing]

If your wife could possibly get a job in Chicago, I would ED NU.

There's no way he gets the 150k with a 2.17.

[ndirish2010]

If your wife could possibly get a job in Chicago, I would ED NU.

There's no way he gets the 150k with a 2.17.

From NU's perspective, what's different about a 2.17 compared to a 3.0? Both are below median (and even below 25%).

[Crowing]

If your wife could possibly get a job in Chicago, I would ED NU.

There's no way he gets the 150k with a 2.17.

From NU's perspective, what's different about a 2.17 compared to a 3.0? Both are below median (and even below 25%).

One would think based on the whole gaming the quartiles thing. But schools do seem to have gpa floors anyway. Regardless, even a 3.0 wouldn't net NU ED. It looks like even an LSAT over NU's 75th still needs at least a 3.6 or so.

[Cobretti]

If your wife could possibly get a job in Chicago, I would ED NU.

There's no way he gets the 150k with a 2.17.

From NU's perspective, what's different about a 2.17 compared to a 3.0? Both are below median (and even below 25%).

One would think based on the whole gaming the quartiles thing. But schools do seem to have gpa floors anyway. Regardless, even a 3.0 wouldn't net NU ED. It looks like even an LSAT over NU's 75th still needs at least a 3.6 or so.

http://myLSN.info/cl4ldx

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[Crowing]

http://myLSN.info/cl4ldx

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Look at the raw data. 2/3 acceptances were waitlisted before being accepted. The 3rd is Samara who was held then accepted. Aka none of them got the 150k.

[Cobretti]

http://myLSN.info/cl4ldx

?

Look at the raw data. 2/3 acceptances were waitlisted before being accepted. The 3rd is Samara who was held then accepted. Aka none of them got the 150k.

That's depressing. What is the deal with Samara's acceptance? It looks like he wasn't waitlisted, but didn't get the scholly?

[Tiago Splitter]

What is the deal with Samara's acceptance? It looks like she wasn't waitlisted, but didn't get the scholly?

Samara applied ED, was deferred to RD, and then accepted. He just didn't have an easy way to clarify that on LSN.

[Crowing]

What is the deal with Samara's acceptance? It looks like she wasn't waitlisted, but didn't get the scholly?

Samara applied ED, was deferred to RD, and then accepted. He just didn't have an easy way to clarify that on LSN.

A couple of people had that happen last year. NU deferred them to RD then accepted them very soon afterward; I guess it was what they did to applicants they for sure wanted to admit but didn't want to give 150k to.

[Cobretti]

As a splitter aiming for NU ED scholly... crap

[WanderingPondering]

http://myLSN.info/cl4ldx

?

Look at the raw data. 2/3 acceptances were waitlisted before being accepted. The 3rd is Samara who was held then accepted. Aka none of them got the 150k.

That's depressing. What is the deal with Samara's acceptance? It looks like she wasn't waitlisted, but didn't get the scholly?

After all Samara's done for TLS, don't you think we should at least get his gender correct?

[Cobretti]

Sounded like a girl's name, meh