Chance the French (The US exists because of us) Forum

[2014]

I couldn't understand you through your thick accent, maybe try speaking up?

[HuskyHopeful]

Anyone else imagine the OP as the french race car driver from Talladega Nights?

[TiberiusTyrone]

Hi,

I'm currently finishing a global studies (political science and international relations) B.A at UCSB and since I want to go to law school I'd like to know if anyone has information about international students acceptance rates.
I'm from France, I have a 3.8 GPA so far but no LSAT score yet (I know it makes it impossible to concretely chance me). But I'd still like to know if with this GPA and a correct LSAT score (btw 155-165) does it give me an advantage compared to an American with the exact same scores, since English isn't my first language, or does it put me in the same boat as everyone else in term of admissions (to get to schools like Arizona State, U of Florida, Stetson, Texas Austin and U of Houston)

Hope this is readable, thanks in advance

putain... merde... fait chier ...mais ouais, la langue française ne cesse jamais de me casser les couilles. Il faut toujours faire gaffe à tous les petits trucs.

au fait... la phrase "I know it makes it impossible to concretely chance me" et en plus le titre "Chance the French" ... ça n'a rien à voir avec la langue anglaise. Other than that, you make perfect sense!

What were you trying to say there... for some reason you're messing up the word "chance"... you can never use it as a verb in English just like in French, right? ... were you trying to say something like "prendre le risque" ... "tenter sa chance"... or rather something along the lines of "parier" or "prévisions" something like "what are my chances"... "predict my outlook"... "bet on the French dude's chances" ... "I know it makes it impossible to predict what are my chances"

Now I don't think they'll really cut you much slack. I mean, it will be impressive, but they probably already limit the amount of international students they take. We can say maybe one or two points, but that's it. They have a ranking they want to maintain! You'd probably have a very good shot at those schools with a 160. And if you happen to get a 165, I think you should look higher up. Don't go to University of Florida with a 165 and 3.8, you can do so much better! I think we can say they will cut you slack as long as you land inside their score range, i.e., even if you are only 25% in their median, they view as very interesting candidate to have.

But why the US? You want to practice here in the US? With the job market as it is, you might want to be aiming only for T14... haha. And should you be considering some French-American program, the best are probably with NYU and Cornell where you will get a law degree from the US and law degree(s) from France. However, they are very hard programs to get into.

Good luck! The LSAT is already a burden on native speakers... knowing French and English, it'd be a nightmare within a nightmare to take the LSAT in French... oh my! So I empathize with those poor souls taking it whose mother tongue is not English.

[jobegood]

Thanks a lot for your input. Location is everything for me since the state you pass the bar exam will be the state where you work. that's I chose nice young places in Florida, Texas and Arizona. I live in the LA region since 5 years now its WAY overrated. TONS of better job prospects in the states I applied to. Same thing for NY, the job market is not horrible, bar exam very hard and housing is awful.

[westie25]

Thanks a lot for your input. Location is everything for me since the state you pass the bar exam will be the state where you work. that's I chose nice young places in Florida, Texas and Arizona. I live in the LA region since 5 years now its WAY overrated. TONS of better job prospects in the states I applied to. Same thing for NY, the job market is not horrible, bar exam very hard and housing is awful.

You can take the bar exam in multiple states, and be licensed to practice law there as long as you pass and pay your dues. So, if you do choose law school, don't think the state you go to for law school is where you're stuck for life. I live in the St. Louis area. Most attorneys here are licensed in Missouri & Illinois. Also, compared to the rest of the US (especially LA) Texas and Arizona have very cheap housing. Florida does as well just not in the wealthy areas. Good luck on the LSAT!

[Bildungsroman]

[mr.hands]

Yeah there is no boost for being French. Sorry

[dingbat]

I understand if you hate the french, they do steal all the women at parties ...

That's not it (those are only the retarded fuglies), it's just that the french are such unsufferable douchebags

[AreJay711]

Actually, in law school the French regularly get shit on. Whenever the professors want to throw out some some asinine legal theory or way of doing things they'll says stuff like "that's how they do it in France" or "maybe in France, you'd be right, Mr. Idiot." At first I thought this was just highlighting the things done in civil law jurisdictions but the disdain in the voice of the professor made it clear that it was more: the French suck and American law schools hate them.

[Amoore114133]

The French are the hipsters of Europe...other than that there isn't much to say about the French that wasn't already said about the bomb dropped on Hiroshima.

[jkpolk]

The French are the hipsters of Europe...other than that there isn't much to say about the French that wasn't already said about the bomb dropped on Hiroshima.

The French are a display of overwhelming American military power?

[Amoore114133]

No I mean more along the lines of destructive, terrible, the worst thing to happen to the world since...things like that...

[jkpolk]

No I mean more along the lines of destructive, terrible, the worst thing to happen to the world since...things like that...

Naw homie- land invasion of japan would have been much worse. the bomb was a fucking miracle, the French are not.

[Amoore114133]

yes well bottomline is we all dislike the French.

[99.9luft]

thanks, Bild - one of my fav. parts of FG.

For anyone who isn't familiar:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XSeFVWq ... re=related

[commiandrei]

I haven't laughed that hard since a long time

To start with all of your addresses about my grammar and vocabulary, I think that my English is excellent, in fact it allowed me to shine in class (plus I can't tell you how easily I get girls with my accent on campus).
I understand that my question my not be answerable since I have no concrete results but I just wanted to know if my status as a foreigner gave me leverage over admission compared to an American with this exact same scores than me.

I understand if you hate the french, they do steal all the women at parties ...

HAHAHA, i believe you're thinking about the Italians, not french unless you go to a ugly girl party.

[mr.hands]

I haven't laughed that hard since a long time

To start with all of your addresses about my grammar and vocabulary, I think that my English is excellent, in fact it allowed me to shine in class (plus I can't tell you how easily I get girls with my accent on campus).
I understand that my question my not be answerable since I have no concrete results but I just wanted to know if my status as a foreigner gave me leverage over admission compared to an American with this exact same scores than me.

I understand if you hate the french, they do steal all the women at parties ...

HAHAHA, i believe you're thinking about the Italians, not french unless you go to a ugly girl party.

Or if the women are dudes

[somewhatwayward]

Je vais écrire un tas de merde aléatoire ici et voir si quelqu'un avis

[ru2486]

Hallo kapitulieren Affe. Sie wäre in der Lage, dies zu verstehen, wenn nicht für die USA.

LOL FUCK YES.

[Real Madrid]

Hallo kapitulieren Affe. Sie wäre in der Lage, dies zu verstehen, wenn nicht für die USA.

LOLOLOLOL. Owned.

[Real Madrid]

I haven't laughed that hard since a long time

To start with all of your addresses about my grammar and vocabulary, I think that my English is excellent, in fact it allowed me to shine in class (plus I can't tell you how easily I get girls with my accent on campus).
I understand that my question my not be answerable since I have no concrete results but I just wanted to know if my status as a foreigner gave me leverage over admission compared to an American with this exact same scores than me.

I understand if you hate the french, they do steal all the women at parties ...

Ugh, take a shower for heaven's sake, Pepe Le Pew. And your status as a cheese-eating surrender monkey will probably be a disadvantage, if anything.

Also, why do you live here? We don't like your kind.

[sunynp]

Hi,

I'm currently finishing a global studies (political science and international relations) B.A at UCSB and since I want to go to law school I'd like to know if anyone has information about international students acceptance rates.
I'm from France, I have a 3.8 GPA so far but no LSAT score yet (I know it makes it impossible to concretely chance me). But I'd still like to know if with this GPA and a correct LSAT score (btw 155-165) does it give me an advantage compared to an American with the exact same scores, since English isn't my first language, or does it put me in the same boat as everyone else in term of admissions (to get to schools like Arizona State, U of Florida, Stetson, Texas Austin and U of Houston)

Hope this is readable, thanks in advance

No one cares about your being an international student. Law school admissions is a numbers game. You don't get a boost because you are doing your college work in another language. It might help you with OCI later, but that is a long way away.

You need to learn a lot about law school admissions. With a 3.8 GPA you should aim higher than the schools you listed. Also, they are from all different states, so where do you want to live and practice? What kind of law are you interested in practicing?

You will be better off sticking with large markets because you don't have any ties (personal connections to locations) unless you are married to an American or have some American family. People outside of large markets may assume that you will return toFrance (which, you probably will). This will make them less likely to hire you.

Those are just a few of the basic facts you need to learn. First, concentrate on the LSAT and do really well. The range you put of 155-165 is huge, even though it is only 10 points, it will make a difference in where you will be accepted. There are study guides here and people will answer questions if you ask.

After you get a score you can narrow down where to apply. If you don't do well on the LSAT the first time, I would retake, your GPA can get you into almost any school so it comes down to getting as high a score as possible on the LSAT. I think your English is probably good enough to do well on the reading sections, but those will be difficult for you as a non-native speaker.

[dkb17xzx]

Je vais écrire un tas de merde aléatoire ici et voir si quelqu'un avis

I did....Google Translate ftw

[dkb17xzx]

I haven't laughed that hard since a long time

To start with all of your addresses about my grammar and vocabulary, I think that my English is excellent, in fact it allowed me to shine in class (plus I can't tell you how easily I get girls with my accent on campus).
I understand that my question my not be answerable since I have no concrete results but I just wanted to know if my status as a foreigner gave me leverage over admission compared to an American with this exact same scores than me.

I understand if you hate the french, they do steal all the women at parties ...

Ugh, take a shower for heaven's sake, Pepe Le Pew. And your status as a cheese-eating surrender monkey will probably be a disadvantage, if anything.

Also, why do you live here? We don't like your kind.

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/1 ... ing-kindly#

[jobegood]

Hi,

I'm currently finishing a global studies (political science and international relations) B.A at UCSB and since I want to go to law school I'd like to know if anyone has information about international students acceptance rates.
I'm from France, I have a 3.8 GPA so far but no LSAT score yet (I know it makes it impossible to concretely chance me). But I'd still like to know if with this GPA and a correct LSAT score (btw 155-165) does it give me an advantage compared to an American with the exact same scores, since English isn't my first language, or does it put me in the same boat as everyone else in term of admissions (to get to schools like Arizona State, U of Florida, Stetson, Texas Austin and U of Houston)

Hope this is readable, thanks in advance

No one cares about your being an international student. Law school admissions is a numbers game. You don't get a boost because you are doing your college work in another language. It might help you with OCI later, but that is a long way away.

You need to learn a lot about law school admissions. With a 3.8 GPA you should aim higher than the schools you listed. Also, they are from all different states, so where do you want to live and practice? What kind of law are you interested in practicing?

You will be better off sticking with large markets because you don't have any ties (personal connections to locations) unless you are married to an American or have some American family. People outside of large markets may assume that you will return toFrance (which, you probably will). This will make them less likely to hire you.

Those are just a few of the basic facts you need to learn. First, concentrate on the LSAT and do really well. The range you put of 155-165 is huge, even though it is only 10 points, it will make a difference in where you will be accepted. There are study guides here and people will answer questions if you ask.

After you get a score you can narrow down where to apply. If you don't do well on the LSAT the first time, I would retake, your GPA can get you into almost any school so it comes down to getting as high a score as possible on the LSAT. I think your English is probably good enough to do well on the reading sections, but those will be difficult for you as a non-native speaker.

Thanks for your insightful answer, believe me I know that it is impossible to know which law school I can go to without any LSAT score. I think that ties count but I plan to stay in the states and eventually raise a family there too. I've done very extensive research on which cities offer the best quality of life with great opportunities for young professionals and Houston, Dallas, Austin, Orlando and Miami are potentially very good. Of course we can have long debates about these but that's not the point. I still believe that graduating within the UC system is a good accomplishment for a non native speaker, therefore I hope that this and the fact that i'm bilingual and also fluent in Spanish will put me ahead in term of admissions and later potential job searches within law firms.
I understand the extreme frustration that people have in here, when they realize that they only speak one language..