Chances with a 3.5, 176 Forum

[adoseofwendy]

what schools are likely if I have LSAT score of 176 (169 the first time) with a GPA of 3.5? (Columbia, NYU, Stanford, Harvard, Yale, other T-14). Also did a Fulbright scholarship and then got some minimal work experience.

[Tiago Splitter]

Likely out at HYS, but you're in good shape just about everywhere else. NYU and Northwestern are your best bets in the T-14.

[adoseofwendy]

really? anyone else have differing opinions?

thought berkeley and stanford at least prefer high gpas to high lsat scores.

[IAFG]

NYU sometimes snubs re-takers. HYS and Berkeley are out.

[CanadianWolf]

With a 176/3.5, Fulbright Scholar & work experience is there really any top 12 law school to which you will not apply ? Obviously your GPA is a concern, but is it enough of a concern to stop you from applying to Harvard ?

[bazinga!]

WL but withdrew from H and in at CCN with 176 / 3.6 and no relevant WE or anything like a fulbright. apply everywhere!

[Tiago Splitter]

I wouldn't worry about the retake issue with NYU. They admit almost everybody with your numbers. Like Berkeley, Duke can be stingy with GPAs, but you have a solid chance at both. But really, just apply to all of the T-14 and you'll have nice options.

Also, Penn aggressively yield protects, so they'll be tough.

[adoseofwendy]

sorry to ask again, but I would like to hear all of your thoughts on Stanford specifically since i heard they prefer high GPAs and I would really like to go there

[IAFG]

sorry to ask again, but I would like to hear all of your thoughts on Stanford specifically since i heard they prefer high GPAs and I would really like to go there

Well, you heard correctly. Your chances there are incredibly slim. California in general is not friendly to lower GPAs.

[adoseofwendy]

would a ED anywhere be significantly helpful/recommended?

[soj]

NYU RD is very likely.

http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com

[rad lulz]

[IAFG]

NYU RD is very likely.

http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com

Can you not search for re-takers anymore? I was trying to see if NYU still can be finicky about re-takes and came up empty-handed.

[Tiago Splitter]

NYU RD is very likely.

http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com

Can you not search for re-takers anymore? I was trying to see if NYU still can be finicky about re-takes and came up empty-handed.

They seem to be less finnicky in general since you applied. Even two years ago a 173 was far from a guarantee, but now the vast majority of 172s and 173s are green instead of yellow.

[Big Dog]

really? anyone else have differing opinions?

thought berkeley and stanford at least prefer high gpas to high lsat scores.

Yes, but a 3.5 is not "high". Boalt's median is a 3.72 according to TLS. Stanford's 25th % is a 3.76.

[adoseofwendy]

oh, i know. what i meant was that my gpa isn't high, so i'm wondering what my chances are for the schools that prefer high gpa's

[LSATSCORES2012]

oh, i know. what i meant was that my gpa isn't high, so i'm wondering what my chances are for the schools that prefer high gpa's

here's what LSN's records are from 2005-present for people with a GPA from 3.4-3.6 and an LSAT score from 175-177.



It looks like you're solid at Northwestern, Georgetown, Cornell, and NYU (which prefers high LSATs, I think).

HYS would be reaches.

Hope it helps

[Grazzhoppa]

you're future looks very fulBRIGHT

have fun at a bomb school