Virginia -- 168/3.76 (resident) Forum

[culturaln]

Took the June ’12 LSAT in what I thought were lousy conditions – prep-tests average 174, actual score 168 – and have registered for October already. UVA is my top choice, for all sorts of reasons, and I’m a resident. Two questions: first, what are my chances without the retake? (GPA 3.76, pretty good softs, work experience, including a PhD from a top institution.) And, second, would it make any sense to go ED in September before I know the October result?

[top30man]

Took the June ’12 LSAT in what I thought were lousy conditions – prep-tests average 174, actual score 168 – and have registered for October already. UVA is my top choice, for all sorts of reasons, and I’m a resident. Two questions: first, what are my chances without the retake? (GPA 3.76, pretty good softs, work experience, including a PhD from a top institution.) And, second, would it make any sense to go ED in September before I know the October result?

I would not ED. You are a VA resident and thats a major plus. Use that to get $$$ once you get a 170 or higher.

[culturaln]

Thanks- I was of the same mind about EDing, but I also wondered if my numbers, as they are now, make a higher LSAT score only a lure for money, or if it would also be needed to be admitted (in other words, if my numbers now are decent enough to be admitted, being a resident.) My guess is that it's chancy, but LSN has too few cases to make much of claim either way.

[005618502]

Thanks- I was of the same mind about EDing, but I also wondered if my numbers, as they are now, make a higher LSAT score only a lure for money, or if it would also be needed to be admitted (in other words, if my numbers now are decent enough to be admitted, being a resident.) My guess is that it's chancy, but LSN has too few cases to make much of claim either way.

As a resident, I think an ED would get you in, but probably w/out money.

A retake into the 170s would get you good money!

[pizzaguy1]

Ya I would say just retake and get a 170+ and you should be a pretty sure in.

[Helicio]

Retake and try for 170 or above. If you do not retake, ED to UVA.

Either way, you are going to get in at UVA methinks.

[culturaln]

Thanks everyone -- it looks like I've got a second-date with the Devil this October.

If anybody's still reading, interested in chancing: what are the prospects for Michigan RD? ED?

[soj]

http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com

At GPA median and below LSAT median is a pretty bad place to be.

[CanadianWolf]

Another option to consider:

ED to Virginia even though you're retaking the LSAT in October. If your retake is 169 or lower, then the ED application increased your chances significantly; if 171 or higher & not accepted ED, you're in great shape for the lower T-14 law schools; if 171 or higher & accepted ED, then ask for money or consider sitting out a year & reapplying.

P.S. I haven't read Virginia's ED contract, but my understanding is that if accepted ED you have the option of not attending law school that cycle & reapplying to any law schools the next cycle.

[2014]

I don't get where all this optimism is coming from, you aren't getting in without a 170. At 170 you stand a good chance at money however.

[005618502]

I don't get where all this optimism is coming from, you aren't getting in without a 170. At 170 you stand a good chance at money however.

VA residents seem to have it a little easier. I think with an ED OP stands a decent chance

[culturaln]

Thanks for all of the advice. It looks like I may have to rethink UVA, for reasons I just learned in the last day or so, unrelated to prospects of admissions (basically, may need to return to the Midwest, where I grew up). But the same advice seems like it carries over to Michigan as well, so thanks!