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[djwjddl]

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[twenty]

You're in, but why ED? Two points on the LSAT make you competitive for munnies.

Are you retaking in June?

[djwjddl]

Already took it three times so I have to live with my stats and leverage everything else possible to get into the top 5. Seems like Chicago is the only school that makes sense for me to apply early to, given that it'a the only top 5 I have a realistic chance of getting in.

[Br3v]

You're in, but why ED? Two points on the LSAT make you competitive for munnies.

Are you retaking in June?

Is this really a for sure in? Not debating, it's an actual question.

[twenty]

He's 1-2 LSAT points down from being competitive RD (and he's well over the median GPA). I don't know how much of a real boost Chicago's ED gives, but since he's just barely on the outside of RD, I'd think ED would push him in. I guess I probably should have pointed this out in my original post.

It's a shame he can't retake. A 171-172 would give him some serious options.

[soj]

No.

Chicago's medians for c/o 2014 is 3.87/171, so you're below both medians.

ED won't save you if your numbers are below both medians, and you're below both medians unless the medians fall.

You might still want to ED since you're almost definitely not getting in RD, let alone RD with money, but remember that if you get in ED (unlikely), you won't have a chance to entertain other options (e.g. lower T14 with $) or negotiate for money.

[canes]

No.

Chicago's medians for c/o 2014 is 3.87/171, so you're below both medians.

ED won't save you if your numbers are below both medians, and you're below both medians unless the medians fall.

You might still want to ED since you're almost definitely not getting in RD, let alone RD with money, but remember that if you get in ED (unlikely), you won't have a chance to entertain other options (e.g. lower T14 with $) or negotiate for money.

Complete b/s... You have an good chance of getting in.

Source: I go here; friends share LSAT scores and GPAs with each other, and plenty of people don't have those numbers, much less that UG degree.

[soj]

No.

Chicago's medians for c/o 2014 is 3.87/171, so you're below both medians.

ED won't save you if your numbers are below both medians, and you're below both medians unless the medians fall.

You might still want to ED since you're almost definitely not getting in RD, let alone RD with money, but remember that if you get in ED (unlikely), you won't have a chance to entertain other options (e.g. lower T14 with $) or negotiate for money.

Complete b/s... You have an good chance of getting in.

Source: I go here; friends share LSAT scores and GPAs with each other, and plenty of people don't have those numbers, much less that UG degree.

This is kind of sad if true, but I'll play. What kind of numbers do your friends have? Softs/URM? Are they actually below both medians like OP is, or below just one median (e.g. 3.9/166)?

[luxxe]

4.0/169, WL'd ED.

Worth a shot, because people got in with a lower LSAT &/or GPA, but you are not in for sure. Also had great recs, good resume, etc etc. Still riding the waitlist.

[JohnDorian]

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[soj]

GPA: 3.85
LSAT: 169
Undergrad: Top 3 Ivy
Softs: great recs, BB ibd legal department for 2 years.
Type of app: Early

You're almost mirroring a majority of the ED's from last year that got in. Without ED you have a chance at getting in, I've seen numbers going both ways.

Be careful of EDing though, you'll lose chances you otherwise might have at scholarships, or using other school's scholarships to bargain. It's never a choice you can take back and you'll occasionally wonder "what if I didn't ED and got in to this and NYU with money and used my scholarship to bargain" or "why didn't I at least try for harvard/stanford."

I don't typically buy the "you're below both medians" thing because Chicago's medians are boosted by the ruby scholarship (full ride for people with much higher numbers). Check out LSN for yourself, I've obsessed pretty heavily around this cycle's numbers and they should back what I'm saying--especially for those who are in the first batch of RDs (you have to apply early-a majority of WLs and dings at Chicago are those who apply later in the cycle).

No.

If you look back in previous years, you'll see applicants with OP's numbers actually did better last year and in years when there was no Ruby. The Ruby raises medians and makes it harder, not easier, for people with iffy numbers to get in.

[JohnDorian]

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