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167/173/3.97 T6 chances?

Post by FidusAchates » Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:36 pm

Given that I'm a retaker, what do you think my chances will be in the T6? Also, my apps are already submitted, so would it be worth it to send in an addendum regarding the score increase?

Thanks so much for the input!

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Post by Perdevise » Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:54 pm

I'll try to finish before Grizz gets in here. Most schools won't care about the retake; you're basically a 173/3.97. Check out law school numbers for similar applicants. Sounds like a lock for CCN, good chances at Harvard, depending on when you applied. I would only send an addendum if the school actually asks for it (brevity is the soul of wit).

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Post by bhan87 » Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:58 pm

Don't worry about your retake status. One retake isn't a huge deal. Also, don't submit a score increase addendum unless you have a genuinely good reason for the increase (hint: you studied more is a terrible reason).

You will get at least one of CCN, possibly up to all 3 with a shot at $$.

HYS is completely within reach, especially H.

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Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?

Post by FidusAchates » Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:34 pm

Thanks so much for the help, you guys!

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Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?

Post by FidusAchates » Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:36 pm

Bump :D

Does anyone else have any thoughts on how being a retaker will affect me in the T6? I've looked at LSN, but it's kind of difficult to gauge from that.

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Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?

Post by Mal Reynolds » Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:40 pm

You already got your answer bro. All you're doing now is looking for someone to validate your fear that a retake matters. The only other thing that counts now is how late you apply. But with your numbers that's still unlikely to matter.

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Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?

Post by FidusAchates » Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:43 pm

Mal Reynolds wrote:You already got your answer bro. All you're doing now is looking for someone to validate your fear that a retake matters. The only other thing that counts now is how late you apply. But with your numbers that's still unlikely to matter.
Yeah, you're probably right. I guess I am afraid that a retake matters!

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Post by Philosopher King » Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:15 pm

If I had those numbers I would be going to no. 7.

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Post by Yeshia90 » Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:39 pm

Enjoy Cambridge.

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Post by FidusAchates » Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:35 pm

lsatcrazy wrote:I'm more or less numbers twin, and I currently am KB1-no-KB2, so maybe Harvard does kind of average. Or maybe it was just my interview...

Edit: IBTG - In before the Grizz
Well, let's hold out hope for some good news!

And thanks for the input, everyone!

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Post by FidusAchates » Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:15 am

Grizz wrote:Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit
Haha, I can only hope!

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Post by kertz » Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:41 pm

lsatcrazy wrote:I'm more or less numbers twin, and I currently am KB1-no-KB2, so maybe Harvard does kind of average. Or maybe it was just my interview...

Edit: IBTG - In before the Grizz
What does KB1-no-KB2 mean?

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Post by bhan87 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:50 pm

kertz wrote:
lsatcrazy wrote:I'm more or less numbers twin, and I currently am KB1-no-KB2, so maybe Harvard does kind of average. Or maybe it was just my interview...

Edit: IBTG - In before the Grizz
What does KB1-no-KB2 mean?
Invited to do a phone interview with Harvard's Admissions Dean (KB1), but ultimately waitlisted / rejected (Harvard informs all accepted applicants via phone call, the KB2).

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Post by hypothalamus » Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:13 pm

I hope all the retake optimists are right, because that would be awesome for me, buuuut.... HLS very explicitly averages scores. Check out their FAQs and see that even their language is very hostile to retakes ("The LSAT should only be taken once").

That said, I hope for the best - for OP and myself :)

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Post by lawyerwannabe » Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:21 am

hypothalamus wrote:I hope all the retake optimists are right, because that would be awesome for me, buuuut.... HLS very explicitly averages scores. Check out their FAQs and see that even their language is very hostile to retakes ("The LSAT should only be taken once").

That said, I hope for the best - for OP and myself :)
H very explicitly claims to average scores. Certain LSN profiles and stories on TLS suggest otherwise however.

I liked one person's view that having retaken (and having the average of the two scores below H's median or even below their 25th) is possibly counted as a slight negative soft. If H wants to admit you (likes your numbers, your PS, your softs, etc.), they still will with the retake. If H does not want to admit you, it is just another reason to justify a rejection.

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Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?

Post by Nelson » Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:56 am

hypothalamus wrote:I hope all the retake optimists are right, because that would be awesome for me, buuuut.... HLS very explicitly averages scores. Check out their FAQs and see that even their language is very hostile to retakes ("The LSAT should only be taken once").

That said, I hope for the best - for OP and myself :)
I think most of the T14 claim to average, or at least "take both scores into account," but this just hasn't been born out by results in the last couple cycles.

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Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?

Post by hypothalamus » Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:54 pm

I hope Nelson and wannabe are right, because I have 11 points difference between my scores.... and I would very much like for the first 162 to be erased from history :D :D

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Post by Philosopher King » Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:06 pm

I think the relevant question is, which score determines law school rankings? The last one or an average of both. That's what matters. As long as you can indeed convince them that you will be a good law student, then there is no reason to worry.

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Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?

Post by BigJohnso » Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:53 pm

I got into Chi ED with a 3.96/166, anything can happen!

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Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?

Post by Philosopher King » Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:59 pm

hypothalamus wrote:I would very much like for the first 162 to be erased from history :D :D
WAIT! DO NOT ERASE IT! Give it to me.

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Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?

Post by hypothalamus » Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:21 am

Philosopher King wrote:
hypothalamus wrote:I would very much like for the first 162 to be erased from history :D :D
WAIT! DO NOT ERASE IT! Give it to me.

Hahaha I'll attach it to a PM! :D

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Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?

Post by Errzii » Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:31 am

If anything this might be the cycle where retakers are at less of a disadvantage than before due to the significant drop in number of test takers and applicants. The top tier schools that want to hold onto their medians probably can't afford to be as choosy about LSAT scores (at least compared to previous cycles) and that probably means conveniently ignoring the lower score.

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