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158/3.09 retaking in Dec
158/3.09. I plan on retaking in Dec. I did not live up to my PT potential. However, if I do no better, what are my options for schools if I am trying to get into as good a school as possible? I'd like to stay on the East Coast, but the option to venture to other places is there. 7 years full time WE. Masters.
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Re: 158/3.09 retaking in Dec
Where on the East Coast do you want to practice long term? What are your career goals? What were you PT-ing?
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What are my chances =/= where should I apply
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I'd say you have a shot at Cardozo part time.
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Truth. Forgot to add this.Grizz wrote:What are my chances =/= where should I apply
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Re: 158/3.09 retaking in Dec
So helpful. Where should I have put this then? I'll PM a mod and ask them to move it to the correct forum.patrickd139 wrote:Truth. Forgot to add this.Grizz wrote:What are my chances =/= where should I apply
To answer your question, I'd like to stay in the MD-NC area, but relocating is not out of the question. I was PTing around 165-170. I'm interested in patent law.
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If you're not going to retake (and you definitely should), you should apply to schools in the immediate legal market where you want to work. MD and NC are vastly different legal markets, btw. With those numbers, you're highly unlikely to get into a national school.stephinmd wrote:So helpful. Where should I have put this then? I'll PM a mod and ask them to move it to the correct forum.patrickd139 wrote:Truth. Forgot to add this.Grizz wrote:What are my chances =/= where should I apply
To answer your question, I'd like to stay in the MD-NC area, but relocating is not out of the question. I was PTing around 165-170. I'm interested in patent law.
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Re: 158/3.09 retaking in Dec
Thanks for taking the time to respond. I am planning on retaking. I've been signed up since the day I took the October test. This is basically a worst case, I didn't do any better in December, scenario. Ideally, I'd stay in MD. Wouldn't mind NC, as that is where I am from originally. But I am willing to relocate to as far as the West Coast, if moving means going to a school where I would have better job prospects. I'm not worried about moving permanently somewhere, if that makes sense.
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Your best job prospects (absent a truly national school, which is almost assuredly out of the question with your current numbers) is going to come in a job market where you grew up, going to the best school you can get into in that market. If that's Maryland, then UMD is probably your best bet. If that's NC, then UNC might be a possibility. Check out lawschoolnumbers.com for past students' success.stephinmd wrote:Thanks for taking the time to respond. I am planning on retaking. I've been signed up since the day I took the October test. This is basically a worst case, I didn't do any better in December, scenario. Ideally, I'd stay in MD. Wouldn't mind NC, as that is where I am from originally. But I am willing to relocate to as far as the West Coast, if moving means going to a school where I would have better job prospects. I'm not worried about moving permanently somewhere, if that makes sense.
I'd also start heavily considering scholarship opportunities. Law school is a losing bet for 90%+ of students.
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Wrong in these circumstances:Law school is a losing bet for 90%+ of students.
a. You have an in at a family firm
b. You have connections somewhere
c. This is your passion and don't give a damn how much you make
d. You want to start your own firm some day
e. You may not start big, but you can work your way up
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+10000 - you sound like someone who knows how the law industry works. Most people on this form are all about Biglaw or bust. You can make more than a big law firm partner (and lead a better balanced life) if you start your own firm and have a passion for the law.Law school is a losing bet for 90%+ of students.
Wrong in these circumstances:
a. You have an in at a family firm
b. You have connections somewhere
c. This is your passion and don't give a damn how much you make
d. You want to start your own firm some day
e. You may not start big, but you can work your way up
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No. East Coast is no go for anything T1, and 90% of TT. Full time programs at Rutgers and Seton Hall come to mind as your best bets for true east coast TT, although the odds are against you at both. Both have PT programs that are worth looking into with your numbers. I don't know about this year, but Seton Hall's PT acceptance rate was quite high in years prior. Aside from those, Pitt, Buffalo, St. John's and Hofstra could bite. That GPA is a tough sell, unfortunately.lawfreak wrote:I'd say you have a shot at Cardozo part time.
TTT could mean scholly, but buyer beware.
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Biglaw = best way to pay off big loans. Lol @ passion for the law whatever that is.DC_Patent_Law wrote: +10000 - you sound like someone who knows how the law industry works. Most people on this form are all about Biglaw or bust. You can make more than a big law firm partner (and lead a better balanced life) if you start your own firm and have a passion for the law.
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Best way...doesn't mean its the only way. Plus, everyone ends up paying back their loans, it's only a matter of when.Biglaw = best way to pay off big loans. Lol @ passion for the law whatever that is.
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Um, I got into dozo pt with 158/3.95, and know others with lower lsat scores, so its definitely possible.BEAST_mode wrote:No. East Coast is no go for anything T1, and 90% of TT. Full time programs at Rutgers and Seton Hall come to mind as your best bets for true east coast TT, although the odds are against you at both. Both have PT programs that are worth looking into with your numbers. I don't know about this year, but Seton Hall's PT acceptance rate was quite high in years prior. Aside from those, Pitt, Buffalo, St. John's and Hofstra could bite. That GPA is a tough sell, unfortunately.lawfreak wrote:I'd say you have a shot at Cardozo part time.
TTT could mean scholly, but buyer beware.
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This.Grizz wrote:Biglaw = best way to pay off big loans. Lol @ passion for the law whatever that is.DC_Patent_Law wrote: +10000 - you sound like someone who knows how the law industry works. Most people on this form are all about Biglaw or bust. You can make more than a big law firm partner (and lead a better balanced life) if you start your own firm and have a passion for the law.
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You do know that there is a very, very big difference between your 3.95 and OPs 3.09, right?lawfreak wrote:Um, I got into dozo pt with 158/3.95, and know others with lower lsat scores, so its definitely possible.BEAST_mode wrote:No. East Coast is no go for anything T1, and 90% of TT. Full time programs at Rutgers and Seton Hall come to mind as your best bets for true east coast TT, although the odds are against you at both. Both have PT programs that are worth looking into with your numbers. I don't know about this year, but Seton Hall's PT acceptance rate was quite high in years prior. Aside from those, Pitt, Buffalo, St. John's and Hofstra could bite. That GPA is a tough sell, unfortunately.lawfreak wrote:I'd say you have a shot at Cardozo part time.
TTT could mean scholly, but buyer beware.
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Hey MrPap, havent seen you in a whileMrPapagiorgio wrote:This.Grizz wrote:Biglaw = best way to pay off big loans. Lol @ passion for the law whatever that is.DC_Patent_Law wrote: +10000 - you sound like someone who knows how the law industry works. Most people on this form are all about Biglaw or bust. You can make more than a big law firm partner (and lead a better balanced life) if you start your own firm and have a passion for the law.
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Yes, but the people with lower lsat scores that got in compensate for my higher GPA stats.MrPapagiorgio wrote:You do know that there is a very, very big difference between your 3.95 and OPs 3.09, right?lawfreak wrote:Um, I got into dozo pt with 158/3.95, and know others with lower lsat scores, so its definitely possible.BEAST_mode wrote:No. East Coast is no go for anything T1, and 90% of TT. Full time programs at Rutgers and Seton Hall come to mind as your best bets for true east coast TT, although the odds are against you at both. Both have PT programs that are worth looking into with your numbers. I don't know about this year, but Seton Hall's PT acceptance rate was quite high in years prior. Aside from those, Pitt, Buffalo, St. John's and Hofstra could bite. That GPA is a tough sell, unfortunately.lawfreak wrote:I'd say you have a shot at Cardozo part time.
TTT could mean scholly, but buyer beware.
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lol wut, and nope (to the bold).lawfreak wrote:Best way...doesn't mean its the only way. Plus, everyone ends up paying back their loans, it's only a matter of when.Biglaw = best way to pay off big loans. Lol @ passion for the law whatever that is.
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Um, 3.95 is a strong GPA. 3.09 is not.lawfreak wrote:Um, I got into dozo pt with 158/3.95, and know others with lower lsat scores, so its definitely possible.BEAST_mode wrote:No. East Coast is no go for anything T1, and 90% of TT. Full time programs at Rutgers and Seton Hall come to mind as your best bets for true east coast TT, although the odds are against you at both. Both have PT programs that are worth looking into with your numbers. I don't know about this year, but Seton Hall's PT acceptance rate was quite high in years prior. Aside from those, Pitt, Buffalo, St. John's and Hofstra could bite. That GPA is a tough sell, unfortunately.lawfreak wrote:I'd say you have a shot at Cardozo part time.
TTT could mean scholly, but buyer beware.
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Ok lets not be jerks over here. A normal person knows that when I say "everyone" I mean like 90%, unless you're trying to imply that 90% of law students with debt are homeless or the like.Grizz wrote:lol wut, and nope (to the bold).lawfreak wrote:Best way...doesn't mean its the only way. Plus, everyone ends up paying back their loans, it's only a matter of when.Biglaw = best way to pay off big loans. Lol @ passion for the law whatever that is.
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Um, fuck yourself. You should have read my next post asshatBEAST_mode wrote:Um, 3.95 is a strong GPA. 3.09 is not.lawfreak wrote:Um, I got into dozo pt with 158/3.95, and know others with lower lsat scores, so its definitely possible.BEAST_mode wrote:No. East Coast is no go for anything T1, and 90% of TT. Full time programs at Rutgers and Seton Hall come to mind as your best bets for true east coast TT, although the odds are against you at both. Both have PT programs that are worth looking into with your numbers. I don't know about this year, but Seton Hall's PT acceptance rate was quite high in years prior. Aside from those, Pitt, Buffalo, St. John's and Hofstra could bite. That GPA is a tough sell, unfortunately.lawfreak wrote:I'd say you have a shot at Cardozo part time.
TTT could mean scholly, but buyer beware.
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Welcome back.lawfreak wrote:Um, fuck yourself. You should have read my next post asshat
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You know you missed meMrPapagiorgio wrote:Welcome back.lawfreak wrote:Um, fuck yourself. You should have read my next post asshat
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