2.8/ 155 Forum

[lolobunny36]

Hi, I am currently an female undergrad student at Santa Clara University on the water polo team. I am taking the October test in a week and I really want to get into Santa Clara. What are my chances getting in if I get around a 155 on the LSAT and I have a 2.8 gpa?

[Jah'rakal]

it doesn't matter that much if you are female, but if you are black/latino, then it makes a huge difference. I think you have a good shot to get in if you can get to a 160

[lolobunny36]

I am hispanic with a finance degree. I have been testing around 150.

[Jah'rakal]

i am not one of the usual elitist posters here, but still, 150-155/2.8 won't cut it for santa clara most likely, check out lawschoolnumbers.com and lawschoolpredictor.com

[Tiago Splitter]

i am not one of the usual elitist posters here, but still, 150-155/2.8 won't cut it for santa clara most likely, check out lawschoolnumbers.com and lawschoolpredictor.com

I am one of those posters. You still have time to get your GPA up. Do it.

[lolobunny36]

I am planning on applying early because I think I would have a better chance doing that than regular admissions. So my gpa is what it is.

[kalvano]

Your GPA and fake LSAT won't get you in. You're below both medians, well below on the GPA, which California schools seem to favor.

[Eco]

You're fucked if you go to law school, because only a shitty one will let you in. Sorry :\

[Jah'rakal]

I am planning on applying early because I think I would have a better chance doing that than regular admissions. So my gpa is what it is.

well generally speaking LSAT is more important than GPA anyways, so instead of dedicating ur time to GPA, do it for LSAT instead, I think if u break 160, ur in santa clara, otherwise, there are other options like pacific, u of san fran, or socal locations like south western, chapman, whittier, all viable

[total_loss]

I am planning on applying early because I think I would have a better chance doing that than regular admissions. So my gpa is what it is.

Work to increase your GPA. If you are rejected this cycle, you can reapply next cycle with a higher GPA (and thus, greater admission chances).

[Yukos]

Why do you want to go to law school?

[Jah'rakal]

because JD degree provides a chance to succeed that otherwise would not be available? OP probably majored in something useless like English or Poli Sci or sociology or something, a BA in those fields would land no jobs at all, so a JD, regardless where it is from, will be worth it, apply to southwestern and whittier OP, i know bunch ppl who graduated from there and are doing well

[RaleighStClair]

because JD degree provides a chance to succeed that otherwise would not be available? OP probably majored in something useless like English or Poli Sci or sociology or something, a BA in those fields would land no jobs at all, so a JD, regardless where it is from, will be worth it, apply to southwestern and whittier OP, i know bunch ppl who graduated from there and are doing well

DUDEWHOAREYOU. Stop recommending that people go to Whittier.

...more like Shittier. Heh.

[Jah'rakal]

because JD degree provides a chance to succeed that otherwise would not be available? OP probably majored in something useless like English or Poli Sci or sociology or something, a BA in those fields would land no jobs at all, so a JD, regardless where it is from, will be worth it, apply to southwestern and whittier OP, i know bunch ppl who graduated from there and are doing well

DUDEWHOAREYOU. Stop recommending that people go to Whittier.

...more like Shittier. Heh.

dude i rmber seeing you on lawschoolnumbers, u had some amazing stats and acceptances, but most ppl don't have that, obviously i'd go to Havard or UCI over whittier, but what if they are not available?

[law4vus]

because JD degree provides a chance to succeed that otherwise would not be available? OP probably majored in something useless like English or Poli Sci or sociology or something, a BA in those fields would land no jobs at all, so a JD, regardless where it is from, will be worth it, apply to southwestern and whittier OP, i know bunch ppl who graduated from there and are doing well

DUDEWHOAREYOU. Stop recommending that people go to Whittier.

...more like Shittier. Heh.

dude i rmber seeing you on lawschoolnumbers, u had some amazing stats and acceptances, but most ppl don't have that, obviously i'd go to Havard or UCI over whittier, but what if they are not available?

Then don't go to law school.

[crumpetsandtea]

because JD degree provides a chance to succeed that otherwise would not be available? OP probably majored in something useless like English or Poli Sci or sociology or something, a BA in those fields would land no jobs at all, so a JD, regardless where it is from, will be worth it, apply to southwestern and whittier OP, i know bunch ppl who graduated from there and are doing well

This is TERRIBLE advice.

If you have a BA in PoliSci or something equally useless (like me--double major in PS/Philosophy), it will be hard to find a job, yes. Now add $150,000 of debt and 3 years of studying for a degree from a shitty law school. What happens when you can't find a job then?

That's right. You're still fucked (even more so, because you'll be overqualified for most entry-level positions) and with $150K to pay off on top of that.

Moral of the story -- don't go to a shitty school for sticker price. At the very least, go for a full scholarship without stipulations. Then when you graduate with no job prospects, at least you've only lost 3 years of your life, and you won't be paying back your loans for the next 20 years.

ETA:

If the words of the posters here aren't enough to convince you, OP, take a look at Santa Clara's Employment Data:

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20% employed. 14% confirmed unemployed/grad students. 35% employed NOT IN A LEGAL JOB (ie, Starbucks, office bitch). 32% unknown.

Do you really want to pay $150,000 for a 20% shot at getting a legal job? Yeah. I didn't think so.

[law4vus]

because JD degree provides a chance to succeed that otherwise would not be available? OP probably majored in something useless like English or Poli Sci or sociology or something, a BA in those fields would land no jobs at all, so a JD, regardless where it is from, will be worth it, apply to southwestern and whittier OP, i know bunch ppl who graduated from there and are doing well

This is TERRIBLE advice.

If you have a BA in PoliSci or something equally useless (like me--double major in PS/Philosophy), it will be hard to find a job, yes. Now add $150,000 of debt and 3 years of studying for a degree from a shitty law school. What happens when you can't find a job then?

That's right. You're still fucked (even more so, because you'll be overqualified for most entry-level positions) and with $150K to pay off on top of that.

Moral of the story -- don't go to a shitty school for sticker price. At the very least, go for a full scholarship without stipulations. Then when you graduate with no job prospects, at least you've only lost 3 years of your life, and you won't be paying back your loans for the next 20 years.

All the advice I've seen that poster give has been terrible advice. It seems like he's absolutely oblivious to the enormous shitstorm the economy is right now. I'm at GW and I have second thoughts on whether it's a good idea. I can't imagine what it would be like paying sticker at Whittier.

[Jah'rakal]

not true, if you are f.ed with no chance with a worthless BA degree, then the JD from any school would help you, yeah of course it's possible that you can f. it all up and still end up with no job and heavy debts, but at least u have a chance of securing employment by performing well in school, u roll the dice when the alternative is stuck with shitty BAs

[law4vus]

yeah of course it's possible that you can f. it all up and still end up with no job and heavy debts, but at least u have a chance of securing employment by performing well in school, u roll the dice when the alternative is stuck with shitty BAs

It's not just possible, but HIGHLY LIKELY you end up with no job and shitty debts at the schools you keep advocating to people, like Whittier.

In that scenario, it's better to be stuck with the BA and no debt. Get a freaking Ph.D. A Ph.D in English or Poli Sci will give you a better chance at a good career than a Whittier degree and it will cost much less because of stipends.

[Yukos]

Don't feed the troll.

[RaleighStClair]

because JD degree provides a chance to succeed that otherwise would not be available? OP probably majored in something useless like English or Poli Sci or sociology or something, a BA in those fields would land no jobs at all, so a JD, regardless where it is from, will be worth it, apply to southwestern and whittier OP, i know bunch ppl who graduated from there and are doing well

DUDEWHOAREYOU. Stop recommending that people go to Whittier.

...more like Shittier. Heh.

dude i rmber seeing you on lawschoolnumbers, u had some amazing stats and acceptances, but most ppl don't have that, obviously i'd go to Havard or UCI over whittier, but what if they are not available?

I haven't even applied to lawl school yet...brah.

[YourCaptain]

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