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[cedarseoul]

I'm preparing my application documents now, and I have a list of schools--but I feel like I'm selling myself short.

Money is a significant concern for me, as my wife has substantial student loan debt. So I don't want to waste time with a school that won't consider me for a meaningful scholarship (ideally full tuition or close). On the other hand, I don't want to waste three years at a low-ranked school.

I know my number aren't stunning, but they aren't bad. Any recommendations?

A few other points:
1) I have lived overseas for several years since graduating; my state residency is a little unclear, so I can't count on in-state tuition or home-state advantage
2) I have pretty good soft factors overall, but no meaningful legal experience
3) I took the LSAT once in college and scored 153...obviously I pulled it together the second time around, but schools that average scores will be out of range for me

[showNprove]

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[bport hopeful]

I know this is the obnoxious standard, but with that GPA you really are selling yourself short if you dont retake. Almost no schools average.

[Tiago Splitter]

You are solidly above every school's median GPA, but to get a serious scholarship look for schools with a median LSAT of 164 or lower. For reference, here are the schools with median LSAT scores of 164 or 163, based on class of 2013 medians:

Indiana 3.78 / 164..................(+.08, 0)
BYU 3.75 / 164.......................(+.01, +1)
SMU 3.75 / 164......................(-.01, 0)
George Mason 3.72 / 164.........(0, +1)
Georgia 3.70 / 164..................(0, 0)
Cardozo: 3.62 / 164................(+.02, 0)
Colorado 3.61 / 164................(-.07, +1)
UC Hastings 3.60 / 164............(+.02, 0)
Ohio State 3.66 / 163..............(+.02, +1)
Washington 3.65 / 163............(-.01, 0)
Wisconsin 3.63 / 163...............(+.03, +1)
UC Davis 3.63 / 163.................(+.12, 0)
Pepperdine 3.62 / 163.............(+.01, +1)
North Carolina 3.50 / 163.........(-.08, +1)
Brooklyn 3.47 / 163.................(0, 0)
American 3.40 / 163...............(+.04, +1)

These schools are okay, but they will all limit you to their respective regions.

Nobody truly averages LSAT scores anymore these days, which is why retaking for a 170+ and getting a massive scholarship from a T-14 school is your best bet.

[bport hopeful]

You are solidly above every school's median GPA, but to get a serious scholarship look for schools with a median LSAT of 164 or lower. For reference, here are the schools with median LSAT scores of 164 or 163, based on class of 2013 medians:

Indiana 3.78 / 164..................(+.08, 0)
BYU 3.75 / 164.......................(+.01, +1)
SMU 3.75 / 164......................(-.01, 0)
George Mason 3.72 / 164.........(0, +1)
Georgia 3.70 / 164..................(0, 0)
Cardozo: 3.62 / 164................(+.02, 0)
Colorado 3.61 / 164................(-.07, +1)
UC Hastings 3.60 / 164............(+.02, 0)
Ohio State 3.66 / 163..............(+.02, +1)
Washington 3.65 / 163............(-.01, 0)
Wisconsin 3.63 / 163...............(+.03, +1)
UC Davis 3.63 / 163.................(+.12, 0)
Pepperdine 3.62 / 163.............(+.01, +1)
North Carolina 3.50 / 163.........(-.08, +1)
Brooklyn 3.47 / 163.................(0, 0)
American 3.40 / 163...............(+.04, +1)

These schools are okay, but they will all limit you to their respective regions.

Nobody truly averages LSAT scores anymore these days, which is why retaking for a 170+ and getting a massive scholarship from a T-14 school is your best bet.

This is the post I would make if I werent lazy.

Listen to dude, this is solid advice.

[lovejopd]

NICE GPA!