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170/3.47

Post by ra25093 » Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:22 pm

LSAT was 170. Transcript GPA is 3.567, lawschoolpredictor puts LSDAS GPA at 3.47. Major was biology.

At time of matriculation I will have just shy of 2 years work experience in pharmaceutical research.

Currently I'm thinking of applying ED to GWU because I'm interested in IP and because of their ED scholarship (unless they changed that for this cycle?). I also intend to apply to Cornell, UVA, and GULC as reaches, as well as GMU and W&M, not sure where else; based on other locations I might want to work, I'm also considering UCLA, UCDavis, UTAustin, and UNC. I'm a VA resident, not URM.

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Post by emciosn » Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:36 pm

If you are going to ED, don't do it to GW. I think you can get some higher schools than that. To me you scream Northwestern. If you ED there I would think you would have a very good chance. With you WE and Biology (hard sciences degrees have slightly more value for purposes of LS apps) I think you have a great shot regular decision. Your GPA will keep you out of some of the lower T14 but Georgetown or Cornell might bite. Then of course there is the 168+ splitter catchall WUSTL, where you would definitely get some pretty good money with your numbers and WE. The California schools will be tough with that GPA. Basically don't waste your ED at GW, UVA or Northwestern would be a better choice for that. I don't think you really need ED for Northwestern.

Just my $0.02

Edit: I had very similar numbers (slightly higher GPA) and no WE and ended up at WUSTL with money. Was hold-> WL at Northwestern before I decided to cut my losses. And my cycle was the all time record for apps, you should have a slightly less competitive cycle.

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Post by Hopefully2012 » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:20 pm

OP might get GWU with $$$ (the full Presidential Merit Scholarhip) with a ED. Perhaps that is what he/she was looking for. I think those numbers and WE may be competitive for a GWU ED but it's definitely not a lock nor waste of ED.

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Re: 170/3.47

Post by Tiago Splitter » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:28 pm

No reason to apply Ed to gwu because you won't get it. If you want to pay sticker Ed to MVP.

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Re: 170/3.47

Post by ra25093 » Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:35 am

Hopefully2012 wrote:OP might get GWU with $$$ (the full Presidential Merit Scholarhip) with a ED. Perhaps that is what he/she was looking for. I think those numbers and WE may be competitive for a GWU ED but it's definitely not a lock nor waste of ED.
That is pretty much why I was planning to ED to GWU, because I'm fairly debt-averse, because I do like the DC area (can't for the life of me figure out why :) ), and because I'm interested in IP, but I can definitely see the advantage of a higher-ranked school.

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Re: 170/3.47

Post by beachbum » Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:42 am

Where are Penn and Duke? If you're looking at NE/Mid-Atlantic schools, they would definitely be worth the app fee. And if you're thinking about California, there's no sense in skipping USC.

I'm not sure how competitive GW's ED is, but I think you actually stand a fair shot at UVA RD. You're an IP-eligible VA resident with WE; if you're debt-averse, I think I would just throw an RD app out and see what happens.

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Re: 170/3.47

Post by Hopefully2012 » Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:56 am

beachbum wrote:Where are Penn and Duke? If you're looking at NE/Mid-Atlantic schools, they would definitely be worth the app fee. And if you're thinking about California, there's no sense in skipping USC.

I'm not sure how competitive GW's ED is, but I think you actually stand a fair shot at UVA RD. You're an IP-eligible VA resident with WE; if you're debt-averse, I think I would just throw an RD app out and see what happens.
+1

Didn't see that you were a VA resident but if you are, imo UVA RD would definitely be in play. Northwestern ED would be an option if you were open to going to NU at sticker. I say go for the GWU ED. I think your WE and relatively higher LSAT will set you apart. Good luck!

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Post by ra25093 » Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:26 pm

[quote="beachbum"]Where are Penn and Duke? If you're looking at NE/Mid-Atlantic schools, they would definitely be worth the app fee.[quote]

I considered them but hadn't really thought of applying because my GPA is rather lower than their 25% and my LSAT is around their median. Even if they adjust for the fact that it was in a science curriculum rather than humanities, since I'm not URM I didn't figure I had much of a chance.

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Re: 170/3.47

Post by bgdddymtty » Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:47 pm

I think you're almost guaranteed to be in RD at UVa. You're for sure in ED. Many people don't know that UVa has a rule similar to UT wherein at least 40% of the class has to be made up of VA residents. You're above the LSAT median and don't have an egregiously bad GPA.

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Re: 170/3.47

Post by ra25093 » Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:19 am

bgdddymtty wrote:I think you're almost guaranteed to be in RD at UVa. You're for sure in ED. Many people don't know that UVa has a rule similar to UT wherein at least 40% of the class has to be made up of VA residents. You're above the LSAT median and don't have an egregiously bad GPA.

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I wouldn't be surprised if I got in at UVA. My brother had almost the same stats - same LSAT, slightly higher GPA but it was econ, not bio - and got in, but paid sticker. There's a lot that attracts me to UVA Law - it's #5 in the highly-respected Cooley rankings; it's not up in Yankeeland; the area has a Peter Chang restaurant - but like I said I'm fairly debt-averse so the $44,600/year price tag is a little scary unless I can get major $, so I especially don't think that binding ED would be a good choice for me there.

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Re: 170/3.47

Post by Hopefully2012 » Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:00 pm

lol. Cooley rankings are my favorite too.

In all seriousness though, the only ranking I pay attention to now is http://www.law.com/img/nlj/charts/composite.pdf.

It shows where first year graduates end up at just about every ABA approved school by region. I don't know what the methodology is behind these charts but I trust the national law journal (more than Cooley anyways). If anyone has any details about how they gather this data/how accurate it actually is, please weigh in.

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Re: 170/3.47

Post by CanadianWolf » Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:15 pm

Makes sense to ED to GWU if OP is concerned about debt & wants to specialize in IP law.

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