3.75, 154 - Looking at Chicago schools.. Forum

Rloeb829 · Post by **Rloeb829** » Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:45 am

Trying to go straight through from undergrad. What are my chances at Kent, DePaul, Loyola?? Looking to apply to Kent early decision to see if that helps...

mrtoren · Post by **mrtoren** » Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:59 am

I'm a Chicago native as well and have looked into these schools pretty intensely. If you're planning to go full time..you won't like what I have to say. Your GPA is outstanding, but that LSAT score is dead weight that's dragging you down. You will not, with almost 100% certainty, get accepted to any of the three. You MAY, by some miracle, get waitlisted to DePaul. You will likely be rejected outright from Loyola and Kent.

Retaking is a horrible thing to hear, but its probably going to be necessary in this instance. Otherwise, I'd look at a lower ranked school like JMLS. That's not the best answer for your future, but if you're stubborn enough, it may be your only option.

esq · Post by **esq** » Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:06 pm

Your gpa is OK (outstanding is a bit of an overstatement), but your LSAT will be the thing that sinks your chances - especially going straight through UG without any real world experiences, or strong soft factors to get them to focus on other things that might paint you in a better light. Because you are going straight through UG, all you are is a couple of numbers: OK &

CanadianWolf · Post by **CanadianWolf** » Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:13 pm

You should be admitted to DePaul, IIT Chicago-Kent & Loyola-Chicago according to the graphs at lawschoolnumbers.com

P.S. Michigan State University & Case Western Reserve are other options to consider.

CanadianWolf · Post by **CanadianWolf** » Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:46 pm

OP: To be assured of scholarship money at some law schools, you will need to retake the LSAT & earn a score of at least 157. With a 158, you will be eligible for a full tuition scholarship if you maintain your GPA. A score of 159 or higher will open up many more options, however.

mrtoren · Post by **mrtoren** » Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:53 pm

CanadianWolf wrote:You should be admitted to DePaul, IIT Chicago-Kent & Loyola-Chicago according to the graphs at lawschoolnumbers.com

P.S. Michigan State University & Case Western Reserve are other options to consider.

I sincerely doubt a few admitted students with those numbers constitute a safety net at any of the three schools. Those may be, and probably are, part timers. The OP is below the overall 25th percentiles at all three schools. That includes the part timers who drag the numbers down, so if s/he is trying for full time, it will be even tougher. If URM is a consideration, which should have been stated, it would change things. As it stands, its either a long shot at a waitlist or total rejection IMO.

CanadianWolf · Post by **CanadianWolf** » Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:58 pm

OP is above the 75th% GPA at all of these schools. Most admitted with these numbers are not URMs. OP is a "reverse splitter".

OP: You will do fine at these schools due to your GPA & the fact that all accept students with LSAT at & below yours.

ndirish2010 · Post by **ndirish2010** » Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:07 pm

It doesn't matter if you can get in, because none are worth even close to sticker. You have to retake.

CanadianWolf · Post by **CanadianWolf** » Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:11 pm

Which law schools, other than top14, are worth sticker price ?

ndirish2010 · Post by **ndirish2010** » Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:15 pm

CanadianWolf wrote:Which law schools, other than top14, are worth sticker price ?

GULC not worth sticker either...Cornell and Duke are questionable. Many cheap in-state schools probably are. Oh, and BYU (especially if you're Mormon). That's about it.

Rloeb829 · Post by **Rloeb829** » Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:17 pm

Honestly, am not really concerned about price right now. More concerned with chances of getting in since I have nice parents to help me pay the bills..

CanadianWolf · Post by **CanadianWolf** » Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:22 pm

You'll get in. Although understandable, your worries are misplaced. Retake for a 158 or higher & enjoy a full tuition scholarship with reasonable stipulations from MSU.

ndirish2010 · Post by **ndirish2010** » Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:35 pm

Rloeb829 wrote:Honestly, am not really concerned about price right now. More concerned with chances of getting in since I have nice parents to help me pay the bills..

Your poor parents. No pun intended.

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