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ebo · Post by **ebo** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:32 pm

Similar numbers...waitlisted at W&M, 42k from Emory this cycle.

snapdragon · Post by **snapdragon** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:09 pm

stillwater wrote:I received a 167 (1st time) on my LSAT and have a 3.1 LSAC GPA (from a school where deflated grades are the norm, but I'm sure people have heard this one before). Trended up and finished the last year with a 3.5GPA. I am a white male. I have 3 years of WE, 2 years teaching university English in rural China and 1 year in legal. I am looking to apply to:

Vanderbilt
WUSTL
GW
Fordham
Notre Dame
BU
BC
Emory
W&L
W&M
American

Thanks for the help!

Hi numbers twin! Here's how I did at the schools you're looking at:

Vanderbilt didn't apply, almost no shot
WUSTL out
GW I got in PT, you'd prob get WLed FT
Fordham In PT off the WL
Notre Dame Didn't apply, 50/50 shot I'd say
BU didn't apply, I'd guess WL/out
BC out, but maybe WL/out for you
Emory didn't apply but you're probably in with $
W&L In with $ (though they gave less to splitters this year than they have in the past)
W&M Waitlist - with a shot at getting off it
American didn't apply but you're probably in

If you're interested in the Southeast, consider UGA, Bama, Wake Forest, UNC. A lot of splitter schools (WUSTL and UIUC) seemed to raise their minimum splitter LSAT to 168 this year. Minnesota is a good Midwest option if you're interested in that area. Boston schools love GPA, they will be a hard nut to crack.

NYCbound35 · Post by **NYCbound35** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:19 pm

Best case scenario is retake for a 171+ and you'll be in at NU...

Without that, the best schools you'll have a shot at are in the midwest (IU-B, Iowa, Minn, Wisc) and South (Wake, UGA, Bama, SMU)

If you want NE/Mid-Atlantic, you have a shot at the PT programs at Fordham and GW...Fordham lets you transfer to full time after a year if you do OK. Don't know about GW.

For Cali/West...youre out at UCLA/USC and waitlist/out at Davis and Hastings...Arizona, Loyola, San Diego and schools in that range are your best bets

stillwater · Post by **stillwater** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:49 am

Looks pretty grim. Probably will have to retake.

snapdragon · Post by **snapdragon** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:33 am

stillwater wrote:Looks pretty grim. Probably will have to retake.

Sorry

But I'll go ahead and pile on more bad news:

Some of these schools are going to be a challenge even if you retake and get in the low 170s. BU & BC will rarely take people with 3.1s, ditto W&M. If you get in the mid to high 170s, it may be a different story, but at that point, you'd probably want to consider EDing to a t14.

However, Raising your score to the 169-171 range should give you a solid lock (maybe even w/ $) at WUSTL, ND and GW. Not sure about Fordham or how Vandy treats splitters.

I'd still say, if you're interested in the Midwest, consider Minnesota. 167 got you $20k/year this year for most applicants.

Good luck!

stillwater · Post by **stillwater** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:14 pm

Any chance at Emory?

fltanglab · Post by **fltanglab** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:24 pm

Numbers twin! I've been told a lot more optimistic news off record, but what was your major? Anything else interesting about you? Exceptional strengths outside of numbers will help you.

stillwater · Post by **stillwater** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:21 pm

fltanglab · Post by **fltanglab** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:45 pm

stillwater wrote:Major was philosophy.

Yeah, that's not very special...to be blunt. Sorry.

CanadianWolf · Post by **CanadianWolf** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:53 pm

Your work experience should help. Are you fluent in any Chinese dialect ? If so, then that would be an interesting soft factor.

Are you willing to share which undergraduate school you attended ? It's interesting to know which colleges & universities are tough graders.

hurldes · Post by **hurldes** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:02 pm

I also have the same numbers as you... no work experience, so you might have better chances than me. But here's how my cycle went:

Vanderbilt: didn't apply bc i had no chance.
WUSTL: rejected
GW: WL, accepted
Fordham: didn't apply... i'd guess a WL then accept if they know you'd attend if accepted.
Notre Dame: didn't apply because I got no fee waiver.
BU: waitlisted, withdrew.
BC: rejected. I think they are pretty picky about gpa.
Emory: in with $36k
W&L: in with $15k
W&M: waitlist, withdrew.
American: accepted, withdrew before scholarship info.

I'd say to apply in sept or oct. You'll definitely get a few of your schools.

CanadianWolf · Post by **CanadianWolf** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:12 pm

lawschoolnumbers.com indicates (without considering your work experience, maturity & linguistic skills):

American, Emory & College of Wm. & Mary should admit you based on your numbers alone.

BU is likely to waitlist you. BC may reject based on low GPA.

Another poster had exact same numbers & was waitlisted, then accepted to Fordham's part-time program.

WashUStL has a wall at 168---so it doesn't look promising based solely on your LSAT score.

Vanderbilt is tough. Based solely on numbers, Vandy is unlikely, but I've heard that they sometimes actually read the apps---so there is hope.

Notre Dame looks promising since they do read the apps & yours should interest them.

Good luck !

nelaw2010 · Post by **nelaw2010** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:15 pm

Similar numbers, but I'm Latino (non-Mexican).

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/nelaw2010/jd

CanadianWolf · Post by **CanadianWolf** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:27 pm

Deflated grades & philosophy major---Swarthmore College ? Univ. of Chicago ? Princeton ? Davidson College ? Suwanee-Univ. of the South ?

Your list of law schools shows a Southern preference, so I'll guess Davidson.

stillwater · Post by **stillwater** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:51 pm

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