169/3.87 Forum

[iphone7]

So I took the June 2011 LSAT and got my score today. My goal was 172 and my target schools were CCN. Here are my stats and several questions.

GPA: 3.87
LSAT: 169
Softs: Fairly Strong

My guess is that YHS is completely out, CCN is very doubtful/completely out. But I feel as if BMVP is a very real possibility.

Here are my questions:
1. Do you think that it's worth applying to YHS?
2. Should I apply ED to one of CCN? Would it be worth it or just a waste of money?
3. Do you agree that I'll have a good change at BMVP?
4. Do you think I have a chance at money?
5. Do I need to attach "Why X?" essays to all of my applications?

I really do appreciate any help you all can give.

[iphone7]

Bump

[iphone7]

I would really like a response.

[OnceUponAMemo]

I think you have a decent shot at Columbia or NYU if you do ED, if not, likely a waitlist at both. You have a good shot at the lower t14, but I would guess you are unlikely to get much $$ at any of them. If you are more concerned about getting $$ then I would look to the next tier down in your target area. Additionally, it may not be a bad idea to retake in September and use the next few months to buckle down that score so you are assured of getting over 170. If you can get a 172 in September, then you are likely in at NYU and Columbia with money from t14.

[duckmoney]

So I took the June 2011 LSAT and got my score today. My goal was 172 and my target schools were CCN. Here are my stats and several questions.

GPA: 3.87
LSAT: 169
Softs: Organized Two Charity Concerts
Chief Justice- School Judicial Board
Presidential and Dean Search Committees
Founder/President of a Club
Solid Summer Internships and some publications that resulted from them

My guess is that YHS is completely out, CCN is very doubtful/completely out. But I feel as if BMVP is a very real possibility.

Here are my questions:
1. Do you think that it's worth applying to YHS?
2. Should I apply ED to one of CCN? Would it be worth it or just a waste of money?
3. Do you agree that I'll have a good change at BMVP?
4. Do you think I have a chance at money?
5. Do I need to attach "Why X?" essays to all of my applications?

I really do appreciate any help you all can give.

1. Only S, because it's a crapshoot. Out at Y and H.
2. I had very similar numbers (will PM you my cycle) and got into 2 CCNs. ED would certainly help.
3. Yes, good chance at MVPB.
4. Not much chance of money at CCN, slightly more at BM, no money at VP.
5. CCN know why you're applying, no need for a why essay. Do attach why essay to MVPB(D). Everywhere lower than that you should be an easy admit and won't need a why essay.

If you want cash, you will get substantial money at Texas, UCLA, and Vandy, and full rides to T20 on down.

[iphone7]

Thanks for the responses. Any one else want to weigh in?

[j12]

1-4 see lawschoolpredictor.com and lawschoolnumbers.com
5. Doesn't hurt

[iphone7]

LSN seems about 50-50 with my numbers for NYU. Would ED give me that much of an advantage or would I be better off hoping to get in? LSN also shows that most people with my numbers got one or two of BMVP, so would I be better off waiting (not EDing) and trying to leverage scholarship money with NYU (if I get in) comparable to whatever BMVP schools I am accepted into?

[bhan87]

LSN seems about 50-50 with my numbers for NYU. Would ED give me that much of an advantage or would I be better off hoping to get in? LSN also shows that most people with my numbers got one or two of BMVP, so would I be better off waiting (not EDing) and trying to leverage scholarship money with NYU (if I get in) comparable to whatever BMVP schools I am accepted into?

Don't ED. The benefits are very minimal when compared to the possibility of leveraging scholarship money and your chances are already around 50-50 so it's not a complete crapshoot. Also, if you can find some time to take the LSAT once more in September, you may be able to make it to your goal of 172 (a few lucky guesses, a key inference in a game, a lot can happen).

[fingersxd]

LSN seems about 50-50 with my numbers for NYU. Would ED give me that much of an advantage or would I be better off hoping to get in? LSN also shows that most people with my numbers got one or two of BMVP, so would I be better off waiting (not EDing) and trying to leverage scholarship money with NYU (if I get in) comparable to whatever BMVP schools I am accepted into?

Don't ED. The benefits are very minimal when compared to the possibility of leveraging scholarship money and your chances are already around 50-50 so it's not a complete crapshoot. Also, if you can find some time to take the LSAT once more in September, you may be able to make it to your goal of 172 (a few lucky guesses, a key inference in a game, a lot can happen).

Agreed with the above. Benefits of ED to NYU are outweighed by the loss of scholarship negotiation. Consider re-taking if you want to improve your odds and/or get money at CCN (or more money at MPVBD, etc.) Otherwise, just apply RD to any school from CCN->T20/regionals that you might want to attend (and even some you might not want to - just for scholarship leverage).

[duckmoney]

I disagree. Nyu in all likelihood wont give him anything. I had slightly better numbers last cycle and they refused to negotiate with 60k at Duke, which was my next best offer. If you know you want nyu, which is by no means a lock with your numbers, I would go ahead and ed.

[Yeshia90]

Or, if 172 was a realistic aim, you could go ahead and retake. Cracking the 170 barrier could mean a significant difference in money, or be the difference between getting into HYS, if you do well enough.