3.97/176 unusual case Forum
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1988AndX

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3.97/176 unusual case
I'm still in undergrad. My case is unique in that I don't have any grades for my junior year. For my junior year, I did a semester abroad at a foreign school, and my grades transferred back to my home institution as pass. I initially decided to take the spring semester off to study for the LSAT and to take it in February and in June if need be. Since, I got 176 in February, I'm not planning to retake it. Now I don't really have anything to do until the summer other than reading and trying to improve my skills in a foreign language. How would a year with no grades and an easy spring semester affect my application next cycle? I have typical ECs and decent summer internship. I'm applying to most of the T14 schools and a couple of schools ranked between 15 and 20.
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- KibblesAndVick

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Re: 3.97/176 special case
Stanford and Yale might care because they tend to be holistic and can afford to reject people with stellar numbers. You should be a lock for Harvard and everywhere else.
- JamMasterJ

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Re: 3.97/176 special case
Virtually no one will care. The 3.97 shows you work hard and the 176 shows you are smart. S is tough, and Y is a crapshoot for a 180 4.33, but you should at least get JR1 and be fine everywhere else
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icpb

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Re: 3.97/176 special case
Whether the lack of grades in your junior year and the gap matter would probably depend on where you attend undergrad.
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1988AndX

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Re: 3.97/176 unusual case
I attend a top 15 school. I guess some people who study abroad for a year doesn't have grades either, but I guess my case is a little different.
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- dpk711

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Re: 3.97/176 unusual case
GTFO and enjoy HYS
- cassidylane

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Re: 3.97/176 unusual case
If I'm reading your initial post correctly, I do think that most schools will ask you to account for why you took your second semester junior year off completely (this is what you are saying, correct? That you went abroad fall semester and then took spring semester off to study for the LSAT? So next year you are going to be a senior?). I believe most applications will want you to account for large gaps where you were not in school, and I'm not sure that taking time off specifically to study for the LSAT is the best answer you can give (because of us poor unfortunate souls that have to study for the LSAT while taking a full course load and/or having a full time job!). If I were you, I would get a job or start volunteering now to have something else you can put down for this chunk of time.
Other than that, I wouldn't worry about the abroad grades. Lots of programs don't transfer grades. I would try and get a hold of your abroad transcript though because (I'm not positive about this because my abroad grades show up on my normal transcript) I think you may have to send them to LSAC with your normal transcript.
good luck!
Other than that, I wouldn't worry about the abroad grades. Lots of programs don't transfer grades. I would try and get a hold of your abroad transcript though because (I'm not positive about this because my abroad grades show up on my normal transcript) I think you may have to send them to LSAC with your normal transcript.
good luck!
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surfg1203

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Re: 3.97/176 unusual case
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- dr123

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Re: 3.97/176 unusual case
Probably not a big deal, I dont have any (letter) grades for entire bachelors degree
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1988AndX

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Re: 3.97/176 unusual case
Should I try to get a job at the local supermarket/restaurant now?
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surfg1203

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- cassidylane

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Re: 3.97/176 unusual case
1988AndX wrote:Should I try to get a job at the local supermarket/restaurant now?
All I meant was, most applications ask you to explain any time you took off from school. If you have a reason (it could be anything really) than I'm sure you'll be fine, you have great numbers.
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1988AndX

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Re: 3.97/176 unusual case
I decided to take the semester off because I would have enough credits to graduate (due to APs) with one fewer semester. At the time, not attending classes during the spring semester seemed like a good idea because it saved my parents a lot of money.
I guess I should try McDonald's. I doubt that I would be able to get a job though. Businesses in my area haven't been doing much hiring over the past two years.
I guess I should try McDonald's. I doubt that I would be able to get a job though. Businesses in my area haven't been doing much hiring over the past two years.
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- cassidylane

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Re: 3.97/176 unusual case
1988AndX wrote:I decided to take the semester off because I would have enough credits to graduate (due to APs) with one fewer semester. At the time, not attending classes during the spring semester seemed like a good idea because it saved my parents a lot of money.
I guess I should try McDonalds. I doubt that I would be able to get a job though. Businesses in my area haven't been doing much hiring over the past two years.
I think taking the semester off to save money is a totally legit reason. In your initial post you said you took it off to study for the LSAT. That was the only thing I thought might look a bit odd.
Explaining that you wanted to save money will I'm sure be a totally acceptable answer
ETA: Apparently I say "a bit odd" a lot. hahaha never noticed that before...
- YaSvoboden

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Re: 3.97/176 unusual case
I find it entertaining that you are almost definitely getting into HYS law but the local McDonald's is a bit of a stretch.1988AndX wrote:I decided to take the semester off because I would have enough credits to graduate (due to APs) with one fewer semester. At the time, not attending classes during the spring semester seemed like a good idea because it saved my parents a lot of money.
I guess I should try McDonald's. I doubt that I would be able to get a job though. Businesses in my area haven't been doing much hiring over the past two years.
Just an interesting observation.
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elm84dr

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Re: 3.97/176 unusual case
OP definitely needs to consider getting work experience after undergrad to make her a lock for the top 5 schools. TFA/Peace Corps/Americorps/JP Morgan/NGOs/Golman Sachs, etc.
- thecilent

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Re: 3.97/176 unusual case
YHS prob out. Outside chance at CCN; I would ED to one of these.
i dont know which flame is worse mine or OPs
i dont know which flame is worse mine or OPs
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1988AndX

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Re: 3.97/176 unusual case
Thanks for the replies. I guess, from the replies and from the fact that some people think this is flame, that taking a semester off isn't too big of a deal as long as I have good reasons.
- yngblkgifted

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Re: 3.97/176 unusual case
Definitely OPs.thecilent wrote:YHS prob out. Outside chance at CCN; I would ED to one of these.
i dont know which flame is worse mine or OPs
- Sentry

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Re: 3.97/176 unusual case
Actually retake or ED UVA is TCR.thecilent wrote:YHS prob out. Outside chance at CCN; I would ED to one of these.
i dont know which flame is worse mine or OPs
- zonto

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Re: 3.97/176 unusual case
Just write an addendum and create a strong application otherwise.
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