2.95/168, non resident getting in to Texas Forum

[flounder]

This is going to be a major hypothetical, but it is based more on my GPA question than my LSAT. I got a 159 in my diagnostic so with a lot of work it is possible to get a 168. Let me also explain that although my LSAC GPA is 2.95, it is very misleading. The GPA breaks down as such:

1990-1992= 2.50 at Emerson College, Boston one withdraw and two F's. (Age 18-20)
2006-2008= 4.0 at Quinnipiac University, Hamden, CT while working full time (Age 34-36)

So I think I have a decent argument for an Addendum.

So my question, if I get a 168 LSAT with the above GPA and Addendum, what are my chances as a non resident at Texas.

[Knock]

This is going to be a major hypothetical, but it is based more on my GPA question than my LSAT. I got a 159 in my diagnostic so with a lot of work it is possible to get a 168. Let me also explain that although my LSAC GPA is 2.95, it is very misleading. The GPA breaks down as such:

1990-1992= 2.50 at Emerson College, Boston one withdraw and two F's. (Age 18-20)
2006-2008= 4.0 at Quinnipiac University, Hamden, CT while working full time (Age 34-36)

So I think I have a decent argument for an Addendum.

So my question, if I get a 168 LSAT with the above GPA and Addendum, what are my chances as a non resident at Texas.

Very low chance. Texas I believe seems to be a bit of a GPA whore. No non-URMs seem to get in really below a 3.5: http://texas.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats. Also, it doesn't really matter how your GPA breaks down, the main thing is your LSAC GPA.

[flounder]

Knock,
So just because my number will throw off their curve, they will not let me in? I look at the first two years as a major throwaway. That is dissapointing. 4.0 is much mor indicative of my work than the 2.5.

My other schools are UNC and UCONN. I wonder if they will all just say screw him.

With a 2.95 and a 168 UNC is a weak consider and UCONN is an admit. I hope!

[Ialdabaoth]

I agree with Knock in that LSAC GPA is really all that matters, but you could aim higher with your LSAT. IMO a 159 diag is pretty strong. Personally, I improved 14 points with a moderate (by TLS standards) amount of studying. Good luck!

[flounder]

It is just another example of how my 18-20 year old self is screwing me now. I wish I could go back and slap that lazy schmuck.

[Knock]

Knock,
So just because my number will throw off their curve, they will not let me in? I look at the first two years as a major throwaway. That is dissapointing. 4.0 is much mor indicative of my work than the 2.5.

My other schools are UNC and UCONN. I wonder if they will all just say screw him.

Unfortunately, that is the way the law school admissions process works. Numbers are by far the most important aspect. Even though your 4.0 may be more indicative of your abilities and work ethic than your 2.5 and you have put some significant time between your old GPA, they will still just look at it and see a 2.95. If you get a 168, you will be what is commonly known as a "splitter." Some schools are known to be much more friendly to splitters than others. Texas seems to be pretty unfriendly towards splitters. Schools like Washington University in St. Louis are known to be much more splitter friendly. I would go check out the splitter thread and see what schools are splitter friendly and in your range. Best of luck.

[Knock]

It is just another example of how my 18-20 year old self is screwing me now. I wish I could go back and slap that lazy schmuck.

I feel ya man, it must be frustrating.

[paulinaporizkova]

based on what i've heard about texas, i'd say almost zero. do you realize they only let in 35% OOS? just in case you didn't know.

It is just another example of how my 18-20 year old self is screwing me now. I wish I could go back and slap that lazy schmuck.

i feel like it's really hard to go to college with an easy major at an average school and get a 2.5. you really have to put some serious effort into doing that poorly

[kalvano]

UT basically has a 3.5 floor. Period.

[flounder]

Thanks for the positive words Paulina.


I have made up my mind about my schools. I will be 40 when I enter. Texas, UNC and UCONN are the only three areas of the country that will work for both my wife and I as far as regions to live in for our long term future.

[iShotFirst]

A little bit of hope:

3.35, 166 Out of State Non-URM here. Accepted.

I didn't end up going so I never got the chance to ask why (and I never knew it was so strange until I started on TLS!) but I imagine its from generally living abroad most of my life for some unique reasons, some life experiences that the average person may not have.

I would have entered when I was 27 as well with some good work experience. SO, with all the life experiences you will have at 40, there may be a chance based on my result I think. It IS possible!

[flounder]

Thanks.