3.9 (unweighted)/ 172-176 hypothetical Forum

[ashahid]

I am a junior at Macaulay Honors College at Queens College. My gpa is a 3.9 and likely to increase over the next semester. I am majoring in Psychology and Political Science and minoring in Honors in the Humanities and Philosophy. Assuming I get a 172+ LSAT score, I'd like to know my chances of admission at Columbia, Stanford, NYU, Harvard and Yale, and if there is a heavy weight placed on extracurriculars at these schools

I have interned as a "political analyst" with a consulting firm. I have interned with a nonprofit called NYC Outward Bound and was one of 3 coordinators of an event for incoming Macaulay freshman, in which I set up ten community service projects across NYC. I have 40+ hours of community service myself. I have been a member of Macaulay Student Government, president of the Macaulay at Queens planning committee. I have been a research assistant at the Psych Behavioral Lab at Queens, and also interned at the CUNY Graduate Center as a research assistant building the Children's Environments Research Group's website. I am a JFEW scholar and have received other minor academic awards and have always made dean's list.

Also, I plan to study abroad at the American University in Cairo; however I may do this after application deadlines. Should I make it a point to do this beforehand?

Sorry for the hypothetical LSAT score, but I would like to know what to expect in advance.

[Patriot1208]

All that matters is numbers for every school besides Yale and Stanford. A 3.9 172 will get you into at least NYU and Columbia. But, come back with a real score. Plenty of people on this site have done extremely well on PT's and then not done well on the real thing. Speculation is pointless, come back with a real LSAT score. In the mean time, go look at LSN or LSP if you have questions.

[niederbomb]

I scored 9 points below my lowest PT on the real thing the first time, and I hit my average exactly the second time in spite of having the impression of having done worse.

Come back with an actual LSAT score.

[ATR]

Come back with an actual LSAT score.

[s0ph1e2007]

Come back with an actual LSAT score.

+1

you have no idea what the real thing will be like for you until you take it.

[bigkahuna2020]

I was averaging 169 and shooting for 170-172

Got a 164 and 166 in two tries

[NZA]

Retake.

Oh, wait, wtf?!

Seriously, OP, if you don't score at least five million goals on the LSAT, you don't stand a chance. 3.9 is a total auto-ding at the T-14. Pray for five million LSAT score points, and then ED to UVa.

...but seriously, OP, gtfo and take the LSAT and then see what happens. You should be able to tell from a modicum of googling that a 3.9 is going to get you in anywhere. A 3.9 and a mid-170 would be excellent. A 3.9 and a 145 will get you nowhere.

[NZA]

OP, are you serious?

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 044AAnYDyy

C'mon. Yahoo Answers?

EDIT: and you posted there first?!

[hijodehombre]

OP, are you serious?

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 044AAnYDyy

C'mon. Yahoo Answers?

EDIT: and you posted there first?!

is Yahoo Answers? the new TLS?

[NZA]

OP, are you serious?

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 044AAnYDyy

C'mon. Yahoo Answers?

EDIT: and you posted there first?!

is Yahoo Answers? the new TLS?

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[T6Hopeful]

OP, are you serious?

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 044AAnYDyy

C'mon. Yahoo Answers?

EDIT: and you posted there first?!

Also, the person who replied cites hourumd for his predictions, but they're nowhere close to what hourumd even says. I'm sorry, but just below 80% at Harvard, and Yale not placing that much emphasis on EC's? Even I know that's wrong.

[ashahid]

I read the posting rules to this forum, and it did say that you are permitted one hypothetical. I don't understand why everyone needs to be so rude. I understand I need a real score. Apparently nobody remembers what it was like to stress out about law school admission.

Not to mention, clearly I didn't find yahoo answers helpful or realistic which is what brought me to make an account here.

[parsi]

I read the posting rules to this forum, and it did say that you are permitted one hypothetical. I don't understand why everyone needs to be so rude. I understand I need a real score. Apparently nobody remembers what it was like to stress out about law school admission.

Not to mention, clearly I didn't find yahoo answers helpful or realistic which is what brought me to make an account here.

one hypothetical is different than a hypothetical LSAT "range" especially one as ridiculous as 172-176...

In fact, you havent even posted if you've taken ANY practice tests, so who knows if that's even your hypothetical score? you could be in the 160s or lower..

If you have yet to take any LSAT practice tests, then please take one ASAP. You will understand why everyone is flaming you when you jump on this site and say "lets assume I score 172-176"

If you wanted legit answers without people hating on you, you should have just picked one hypothetical score and you could have got some solid opinions

[Patriot1208]

Also, these posts haven't really been that rude. I've seen much, much worse.

[hijodehombre]

I read the posting rules to this forum, and it did say that you are permitted one hypothetical. I don't understand why everyone needs to be so rude. I understand I need a real score. Apparently nobody remembers what it was like to stress out about law school admission.

Not to mention, clearly I didn't find yahoo answers helpful or realistic which is what brought me to make an account here.

I wasn't trying to be rude. Try to find the humor in our comments and don't stress so much. In any case, with that GPA and that LSAT, you should definitely apply to every school that interests you.

[NZA]

I read the posting rules to this forum, and it did say that you are permitted one hypothetical. I don't understand why everyone needs to be so rude. I understand I need a real score. Apparently nobody remembers what it was like to stress out about law school admission.

Welcome to the internet?

And fyi, most of us ACTUALLY ARE IN THE PROCESS of stressing out about LS admission. We no longer have the luxury of fantasizing about LSATs in the high 170s.

So if you are stressed now, you might as well just stock up on Ambien and snuggies while you have the time. You will need them.

[crit_racer]

OP there are a lot of ppl on TLS w/ 3.9s that predicted LSAT scores as high as the ones you're predicting. A lot of those ppl didn't meet their goal because getting a real score on the LSAT is much different than taking PTs or predicting your score based on ideas you have about yourself. Scoring that high on the LSAT is extremely difficult, but if you do it you will be able to get in almost anywhere w/ your GPA. Quit asking obvious questions and start prepping for LSAT now.

[DoubleChecks]

aww fresh meat

in due time, young grasshopper, you will come to appreciate the TLS environment, assuming you dont first suffer a minor emotional breakdown

so much depends on the LSAT score that a hypo may not help you out very much. also, as mentioned above, 172-176 is a super wide range when it comes to the LSAT and admission in these schools. 3.9 and 176 means you're prob in harvard. stanford prob but it depends on your softs and how your app seems. yale no one knows, but at least you're 'game' haha. it also means you're prob lock for CLS and NYU.

3.9 and 172 and you've got a great shot at CLS and NYU...but not not a great shot at HYS. etc. etc. this can go on and on for all the numbers. if this would be fun for you, i suggest you have a blast on lawschoolpredictor.com