167/4.09 Forum

[raeq63]

what are my chances at ucla, usc, wustl, mich, and ucb (w/ $$ if at all possible)?

the 167 is a retake (162 first time), and I've got good LORs

[raeq63]

shameless bump... I would love to end up in california, but i'm from st. louis and wouldn't mind up practicing law their either

any thoughts would be appreciated.

thanks.

[stratocophic]

what are my chances at ucla, usc, wustl, mich, and ucb (w/ $$ if at all possible)?

the 167 is a retake (162 first time), and I've got good LORs

In at WUSTL and USC, chance at UCLA/Michigan, UCB is the least likely, especially if you're not a minority (54% of last year's class). You'll get the most money at WUSTL, probably less at USC, and substantially less anywhere else. Check LSN for a more accurate picture of $ and WLs.

[whymeohgodno]

In at UCLA/USC. They REALLY love high GPAs and you are only 1 point below the lsat median for UCLA and above both for USC.

Michigan is worth an app with that GPA.

[AreJay711]

I think you have a decent shot at Berkeley. I hate people who went to schools that have have A+ by the way.

[Ragged]

Retake LSAT - get 173+. Go to HYS.

[raeq63]

Thanks for the feedback. My pt average was anywhere from 166-171. I'm concerned I wouldn't get enough study time now until the december test with a full class load and work... plus I'm pretty happy with a 167 considering I started at a 151.

If I did get into UCLA would it make more sense to go there at sticker price or USC 25+% off?

Thanks

[canuck]

I hate people who went to schools that have have A+ by the way.

+1

[raeq63]

Yeah, I went to a big state school with breezy classes and easy +A's ...

[IAFG]

Yeah, I went to a big state school with breezy classes and easy +A's ...

and cheap tuition i bet... sorry you guys chose wrong?

[ATR]

Yeah, I went to a big state school with breezy classes and easy +A's ...

and cheap tuition i bet... sorry you guys chose wrong?

TBF, some of the most expensive private schools give the best financial aid. I transferred from a large state university to a top-5 highest tuition UG, but I pay less here than I did at my old school.

Regardless, I'm jealous about the A+ thing... neither of my schools offer that.

[raeq63]

I live in a very inexpensive college town and pay under $7k in tuition/year... I'll put my money on prestige of law school over undergrad any day.

Also, I'll admit the A+ benefit is strong considering it boosted my gpa from 3.98 to a 4.09.

[showNprove]

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[ATR]

I live in a very inexpensive college town and pay under $7k in tuition/year... I'll put my money on prestige of law school over undergrad any day.

Also, I'll admit the A+ benefit is strong considering it boosted my gpa from 3.98 to a 4.09.

Good for you, but prestige at UG and LS isn't mutually exclusive. I pay $5k/year at my T20 UG.

[Jack Smirks]

OP with that GPA you're T14 secure.

[stratocophic]

I live in a very inexpensive college town and pay under $7k in tuition/year... I'll put my money on prestige of law school over undergrad any day.

Also, I'll admit the A+ benefit is strong considering it boosted my gpa from 3.98 to a 4.09.

Good for you, but prestige at UG and LS isn't mutually exclusive. I pay $5k/year at my T20 UG.

+1 Poor power!

[raeq63]

Fair enough, that's great value for a highly ranked UG. You beat me there.

All this won't matter much when we enter LS, and that's what I'm looking forward to.

[Jack Smirks]

Retake LSAT - get 173+. Go to HYS.

[2014]

Given that Berkeley appreciates GPAs and you are at their LSAT median I think (or 1 below it, but I thought they fell to 167), I imagine your chances are very good.

Either way, you have no reason to go anywhere below U.Va unless you want scholarships.

[ATR]

+1 Poor power!

Haha, no doubt.

All this won't matter much when we enter LS, and that's what I'm looking forward to.

Oh, I agree with you about UG prestige being incidental once you enter LS. But I wanted to address the misconception that private colleges are generally more expensive than public colleges. If anything, the opposite may be true. The misconception detrimentally influenced my original college search, so I always try to bring up this issue when I see it being discussed.

[JazzOne]

Retake LSAT - get 173+. Go to HYS.

[JG Hall]

All this won't matter much when we enter LS, and that's what I'm looking forward to.

Oh, I agree with you about UG prestige being incidental once you enter LS. But I wanted to address the misconception that private colleges are generally more expensive than public colleges. If anything, the opposite may be true. The misconception detrimentally influenced my original college search, so I always try to bring up this issue when I see it being discussed.

No and... umm... no. Uber-prestige is relevant to OCI. Also, http://www.campusgrotto.com/highest-tui ... -2011.html

[stratocophic]

+1 Poor power!

Haha, no doubt.

All this won't matter much when we enter LS, and that's what I'm looking forward to.

Oh, I agree with you about UG prestige being incidental once you enter LS. But I wanted to address the misconception that private colleges are generally more expensive than public colleges. If anything, the opposite may be true. The misconception detrimentally influenced my original college search, so I always try to bring up this issue when I see it being discussed.

Agreed. I loved my time at a certain school which I suspect (from your 'tar) you're familiar with, but I really should've applied to its peers and above as well. Good schools could really do a better job of making their finaid policies clear to high schoolers.

[Jack Smirks]

Retake LSAT - get 173+. Go to HYS

First, please don't edit my posts to make me look like an idiot. Second, OP is not getting into HYS with a 162 and a 167 on his record. hth.

Although we don't know if HYS strictly averages we do know that they actually do consider all of an applicants scores reported. With that said, OPs chances at HYS are minimal at best considering he has a 162 and a 167 so telling him to retake and that he has a shot at T3 is pretty shitty advice.

OP probably won't break T6 but has great chances at Boalt on down.

[Ragged]

Retake LSAT - get 173+. Go to HYS

First, please don't edit my posts to make me look like an idiot. Second, OP is not getting into HYS with a 162 and a 167 on his record. hth.

Although we don't know if HYS strictly averages we do know that they actually do consider all of an applicants scores reported. With that said, OPs chances at HYS are minimal at best considering he has a 162 and a 167 so telling him to retake and that he has a shot at T3 is pretty shitty advice.

OP probably won't break T6 but has great chances at Boalt on down.

HTH