3.79/171 urm Forum
- bigboi403

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3.79/171 urm
what are my chances at harvard or yale etc.
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sharpnsmooth

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Re: 3.79/171 urm
inbigboi403 wrote:what are my chances at harvard or yale etc.
- Remnantofisrael

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LIKELY In. URM cycles are weird sometimes. But I'd bet in.sharpnsmooth wrote:inbigboi403 wrote:what are my chances at harvard or yale etc.
- arism87

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Re: 3.79/171 urm
In. If not at one, at the other.bigboi403 wrote:what are my chances at harvard or yale etc.
- Fresh

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Re: 3.79/171 urm
Good chance on both I hope, since we have pretty similar stats
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Mal Reynolds

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So are you in your first year of college or do you have a 3.79/171? Im confused.
- Blessedassurance

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I think s/he's a freshman in college.Mal Reynolds wrote:So are you in your first year of college or do you have a 3.79/171? Im confused.
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Mal Reynolds

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That's what I thought.Blessedassurance wrote:I think s/he's a freshman in college.Mal Reynolds wrote:So are you in your first year of college or do you have a 3.79/171? Im confused.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 9&t=167565
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MillaLiteYo

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I'm confused. I have a 3.71 and a 171 LSAT and I'm told that I have NO chance at Harvard or a very slim one at best and you're being told you're likely in.
What gives here?
What gives here?
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freestallion

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Depends on type of URM I think. African American or hispanic gets a bigger boost than PR (you)MillaLiteYo wrote:I'm confused. I have a 3.71 and a 171 LSAT and I'm told that I have NO chance at Harvard or a very slim one at best and you're being told you're likely in.
What gives here?
- DoubleChecks

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right...i think people here are assuming OP is AA URM (not sure if true or not).freestallion wrote:Depends on type of URM I think. African American or hispanic gets a bigger boost than PR (you)MillaLiteYo wrote:I'm confused. I have a 3.71 and a 171 LSAT and I'm told that I have NO chance at Harvard or a very slim one at best and you're being told you're likely in.
What gives here?
but milla, some of the posts in your thread are a bit pessimistic imo (i think they missed the urm hook part), but PR, I believe, does indeed not give as strong of a urm boost. you should have a shot at HYS for sure, but i dont think necessarily "likely in."
for OP of this thread, if AA URM, then yeah I think "likely in" is a good prognosis.
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MillaLiteYo

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Re: 3.79/171 urm
DoubleChecks, would this be an accurate hierarchical arrangement of the URM boost from strongest to weakest?
AA >> NA >> PR >> MEX
AA >> NA >> PR >> MEX
- buckilaw

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It's more like - NA > AA Male >>> AA female > Mex = PR >>> Other HispanicMillaLiteYo wrote:DoubleChecks, would this be an accurate hierarchical arrangement of the URM boost from strongest to weakest?
AA >> NA >> PR >> MEX
I'm unsure about how the bump plays out amongst Hispanics. NA gives the strongest bump followed by AA males.
- JamMasterJ

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1. PR's a tiny boost.MillaLiteYo wrote:I'm confused. I have a 3.71 and a 171 LSAT and I'm told that I have NO chance at Harvard or a very slim one at best and you're being told you're likely in.
What gives here?
2. His gpa is a bit higher and URM boost is more applicable to LSAT scores
3. (unrelated) you're a dick in your thread, so people may not want to be as nice to you.
- JamMasterJ

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This part shocks me if true. I always thought AA male was the big onebuckilaw wrote:It's more like - NA > AA Male >>> AA female > Mex = PR >>> Other HispanicMillaLiteYo wrote:DoubleChecks, would this be an accurate hierarchical arrangement of the URM boost from strongest to weakest?
AA >> NA >> PR >> MEX
I'm unsure about how the bump plays out amongst Hispanics. NA gives the strongest bump followed by AA males.
- DoubleChecks

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it could be NA > AA male, or maybe AA male > NA...imo too hard to tell because the sample size for NA URMs is ridiculously smallJamMasterJ wrote:This part shocks me if true. I always thought AA male was the big onebuckilaw wrote:It's more like - NA > AA Male >>> AA female > Mex = PR >>> Other HispanicMillaLiteYo wrote:DoubleChecks, would this be an accurate hierarchical arrangement of the URM boost from strongest to weakest?
AA >> NA >> PR >> MEX
I'm unsure about how the bump plays out amongst Hispanics. NA gives the strongest bump followed by AA males.
- coldshoulder

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It also probably depends to some extent on your diversity statement and to what extent you're a member of those groups/faced economic hardship.DoubleChecks wrote:it could be NA > AA male, or maybe AA male > NA...imo too hard to tell because the sample size for NA URMs is ridiculously smallJamMasterJ wrote:This part shocks me if true. I always thought AA male was the big onebuckilaw wrote:It's more like - NA > AA Male >>> AA female > Mex = PR >>> Other HispanicMillaLiteYo wrote:DoubleChecks, would this be an accurate hierarchical arrangement of the URM boost from strongest to weakest?
AA >> NA >> PR >> MEX
I'm unsure about how the bump plays out amongst Hispanics. NA gives the strongest bump followed by AA males.
- buckilaw

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If you are a "box checking" NA with no tribal ties or the like you likely won't receive a bump at all. There are substantially less legitimate NA applicants in a given cycle than AA males, so it follows that they get a larger bump than AA males. I've also heard this somewhere anecdotally but I can't recall where.
- vanwinkle

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I think this is it. NA isn't always a big bump, and schools appear to be highly skeptical of many who check the NA box. However, someone who provides credentials or who writes a detailed DS that makes clear their ancestry and personal ties to their tribe is likely to get a significant boost, from what I understand. It's complicated, but if you want a simplified version it's something like this:buckilaw wrote:If you are a "box checking" NA with no tribal ties or the like you likely won't receive a bump at all. There are substantially less legitimate NA applicants in a given cycle than AA males, so it follows that they get a larger bump than AA males. I've also heard this somewhere anecdotally but I can't recall where.
Registered NA >>> Other URMs >>> unregistered/box-check NA
- Blessedassurance

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No.buckilaw wrote:It's more like - NA > AA Male >>> AA female > Mex = PR >>> Other HispanicMillaLiteYo wrote:DoubleChecks, would this be an accurate hierarchical arrangement of the URM boost from strongest to weakest?
AA >> NA >> PR >> MEX
I'm unsure about how the bump plays out amongst Hispanics. NA gives the strongest bump followed by AA males.
- Blessedassurance

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That's because you're wrong.buckilaw wrote:If you are a "box checking" NA with no tribal ties or the like you likely won't receive a bump at all. There are substantially less legitimate NA applicants in a given cycle than AA males, so it follows that they get a larger bump than AA males. I've also heard this somewhere anecdotally but I can't recall where.
- DoubleChecks

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Isn't this where you provide your citations so people can determine for themselves?Blessedassurance wrote:That's because you're wrong.buckilaw wrote:If you are a "box checking" NA with no tribal ties or the like you likely won't receive a bump at all. There are substantially less legitimate NA applicants in a given cycle than AA males, so it follows that they get a larger bump than AA males. I've also heard this somewhere anecdotally but I can't recall where.
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TheFriendlyBarber

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No. You're incorrect.DoubleChecks wrote:Isn't this where you provide your citations so people can determine for themselves?Blessedassurance wrote:That's because you're wrong.buckilaw wrote:If you are a "box checking" NA with no tribal ties or the like you likely won't receive a bump at all. There are substantially less legitimate NA applicants in a given cycle than AA males, so it follows that they get a larger bump than AA males. I've also heard this somewhere anecdotally but I can't recall where.
- Blessedassurance

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http://www.lawschoolnumbers.comDoubleChecks wrote:Isn't this where you provide your citations so people can determine for themselves?Blessedassurance wrote:That's because you're wrong.buckilaw wrote:If you are a "box checking" NA with no tribal ties or the like you likely won't receive a bump at all. There are substantially less legitimate NA applicants in a given cycle than AA males, so it follows that they get a larger bump than AA males. I've also heard this somewhere anecdotally but I can't recall where.
- DoubleChecks

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Well, tbf, my actual position was that the current data pool size is too small to draw any legitimate/useful conclusions about the NA vs. AA male bump lol.TheFriendlyBarber wrote:No. You're incorrect.DoubleChecks wrote:Isn't this where you provide your citations so people can determine for themselves?Blessedassurance wrote:That's because you're wrong.buckilaw wrote:If you are a "box checking" NA with no tribal ties or the like you likely won't receive a bump at all. There are substantially less legitimate NA applicants in a given cycle than AA males, so it follows that they get a larger bump than AA males. I've also heard this somewhere anecdotally but I can't recall where.