4.1 / 164 Forum
- kalvano
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Re: GPA- 4.1 LSAT- 164
UVA is your best bet. Out at GULC, WL at UCLA.
According to LSN.
Edit - Missed the possible URM bit. If you are, apply to entire T20. Accept best offer. Models and bottles.
According to LSN.
Edit - Missed the possible URM bit. If you are, apply to entire T20. Accept best offer. Models and bottles.
Last edited by kalvano on Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: GPA- 4.1 LSAT- 164
If you get to legitimately say you are a URM, you should apply everywhere.
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Re: GPA- 4.1 LSAT- 164
RETAKE!!!! add a few points and get a great shot at HYS, dont waste that awesome GPA that you busted your a@@ for
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Re: GPA- 4.1 LSAT- 164
Well here's the thing. We found out maybe 2-3 years ago that my mothers birth parents are 100% mexican. My father is danish/english though so I have a ridiculously american name..think Timothy Smith or something like that. I called my Mom to make sure she had written documentation of her nationality and she has her real parents marriage certificate the adoption papers and all that kind of stuff to prove that I am a legit 1/2 mexican. I am taking the LSAT again in december as I literally studied for a week for the october LSAT and did meh on it...i got -0 and -1 on the logical reasoning sections and -4 on the reading comprehension but completely bombed the LG section. Im fairly certain i can get a 170+ this next LSAT.
Question is...do i just go ahead and apply to all the schools from T14 and T15-25 and say that Im a URM? Or should i go ahead and apply to my lower ranked schools with my current LSAT score and wait to apply to the T14 with my new LSAT score come January-ish?
Just some background about me as far as softs that i didnt mention in my initial post:
I had a 3 year NSF scholarship at the Univ of Chicago
I was one of the people who led and started the Los Angeles censoring of homeless people while I was in undergrad.
My childhood background essentially consisted of running in gangs, selling and doing drugs, barely graduating highschool, and being taken to juvenile hall several times. (i turned my life around quite a bit).
Um, other than that...my fiance is a PhD student at Johns Hopkins but Im pretty sure that doesnt count for anything haha.
Question is...do i just go ahead and apply to all the schools from T14 and T15-25 and say that Im a URM? Or should i go ahead and apply to my lower ranked schools with my current LSAT score and wait to apply to the T14 with my new LSAT score come January-ish?
Just some background about me as far as softs that i didnt mention in my initial post:
I had a 3 year NSF scholarship at the Univ of Chicago
I was one of the people who led and started the Los Angeles censoring of homeless people while I was in undergrad.
My childhood background essentially consisted of running in gangs, selling and doing drugs, barely graduating highschool, and being taken to juvenile hall several times. (i turned my life around quite a bit).
Um, other than that...my fiance is a PhD student at Johns Hopkins but Im pretty sure that doesnt count for anything haha.
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Re: 4.1 / 164
Fordham is on my list of schools Im applying to. Im retaking the exam in December with the hopes to get at the very least above a 167 (+3 from october score). Will taking the December LSAT greatly increase my odds of getting in to a T20 (if not T10)? The December LSAT scores arent released until January 10th....so should I just go ahead and apply to all my schools now, and indicate that Im taking the December school? Will they wait to evaluate me then or re-evaluate me once the scores are released?Columbia Law wrote:ENJOY FORDHAM PT
I'm looking to be involved in human rights law and/or international law, if that helps with what schools I should be applying to.
TLS is getting me all kinds of worried and anxious about my numbers.
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Re: GPA- 4.1 LSAT- 164
I would not bring this up in any way on your law school posts. You could get UVA if you ED. Other then that maybe something in the 18-25 range.vi_vi wrote:Well here's the thing. We found out maybe 2-3 years ago that my mothers birth parents are 100% mexican. My father is danish/english though so I have a ridiculously american name..think Timothy Smith or something like that. I called my Mom to make sure she had written documentation of her nationality and she has her real parents marriage certificate the adoption papers and all that kind of stuff to prove that I am a legit 1/2 mexican. I am taking the LSAT again in december as I literally studied for a week for the october LSAT and did meh on it...i got -0 and -1 on the logical reasoning sections and -4 on the reading comprehension but completely bombed the LG section. Im fairly certain i can get a 170+ this next LSAT.
Question is...do i just go ahead and apply to all the schools from T14 and T15-25 and say that Im a URM? Or should i go ahead and apply to my lower ranked schools with my current LSAT score and wait to apply to the T14 with my new LSAT score come January-ish?
Just some background about me as far as softs that i didnt mention in my initial post:
I had a 3 year NSF scholarship at the Univ of Chicago
I was one of the people who led and started the Los Angeles censoring of homeless people while I was in undergrad.
My childhood background essentially consisted of running in gangs, selling and doing drugs, barely graduating highschool, and being taken to juvenile hall several times. (i turned my life around quite a bit).
Um, other than that...my fiance is a PhD student at Johns Hopkins but Im pretty sure that doesnt count for anything haha.
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Re: 4.1 / 164
Not going to include that in my personal statement at all...I did when I applied to Graduate School and got in to Harvard/UofC/Stanford/Princeton for Anthropology... My PS consists mostly of how my experiences working with Roma Gypsies has shaped my view on justice, personal freedom and identity..these experiences I got whilst working on my thesis at UofC.
Main reason I included it was just to highlight that I come from a pretty underpriveledged and somewhat troubled childhood (all of things I mentioned happened between the ages of 13-17).
Thanks for the feedback, though
Main reason I included it was just to highlight that I come from a pretty underpriveledged and somewhat troubled childhood (all of things I mentioned happened between the ages of 13-17).
Thanks for the feedback, though

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Re: 4.1 / 164
What graduate school were you going into? you must have had good scores because i couldnt see that story helping. But hey, congrats on turning your life around so much!vi_vi wrote:Not going to include that in my personal statement at all...I did when I applied to Graduate School and got in to Harvard/UofC/Stanford/Princeton for Anthropology... My PS consists mostly of how my experiences working with Roma Gypsies has shaped my view on justice, personal freedom and identity..these experiences I got whilst working on my thesis at UofC.
Main reason I included it was just to highlight that I come from a pretty underpriveledged and somewhat troubled childhood (all of things I mentioned happened between the ages of 13-17).
Thanks for the feedback, though
- The Gentleman
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Re: 4.1 / 164
If you scored a 164 with a week of prep, then your potential is probably in the 175+ range. (especially if LG are your weak area) Even without URM status, a 175/4.1 plus your softs will probably get you HYS, and serious $$$ from CCN.vi_vi wrote:Well here's the thing. We found out maybe 2-3 years ago that my mothers birth parents are 100% mexican. My father is danish/english though so I have a ridiculously american name..think Timothy Smith or something like that. I called my Mom to make sure she had written documentation of her nationality and she has her real parents marriage certificate the adoption papers and all that kind of stuff to prove that I am a legit 1/2 mexican. I am taking the LSAT again in december as I literally studied for a week for the october LSAT and did meh on it...i got -0 and -1 on the logical reasoning sections and -4 on the reading comprehension but completely bombed the LG section. Im fairly certain i can get a 170+ this next LSAT.
You may want to consider postponing the LSAT until Feb and sitting out this cycle. It would be a waste to hit 170 with a month of prep when you could realistically hit 175+ with 3-4 months of prep.
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