174 / 3.58, non-URM, otherwise average, chance me? Forum

[sgtgrumbles]

174 LSAT
3.58 LSDAS GPA
non-URM
2 years WE at a non-profit
Good PS
Average to below-average softs
Average to below-average LORs
Graduated in three years

Chance me?

Applying to CCNMVPBND

Any hope of money at Penn or Michigan? I wrote Why X? statements for both. If not, should I ED to Columbia or NYU if I really want one them, or am I okay with RD?

Thanks

[D-ROCCA]

Unless you really just don't want to go to HYS, it still seems like they'd be worth the app fee. You never know, no matter how unlikely it seems.

[sgtgrumbles]

I don't think I'm getting into any of HYS with a sub-3.6 GPA unless my LSAT is 180.

[sgtgrumbles]

Bumping this.

Where am I getting money from lower T14? If I don't want to go lower than MVP, is there a chance of money from them, or should I just ED to one of CCN because I assume I'll pay sticker at any t10?

[sgtgrumbles]

Bump again.

Would love any input on the above questions.

[dissonance1848]

HYS are a waste of time. 3.58/174 should be good shot for NYU RD. With CLS or UofC, though, ED would probably be needed for a good shot, mainly because it is later in the cycle (people who RD'd with your numbers and got in applied at least a month ago last cycle).

[cavebat2000]

I don't think I'm getting into any of HYS with a sub-3.6 GPA unless my LSAT is 180.

Unless the application is free I wouldn't bother either. They like to send people emails suggesting people apply but it's really just a way for them to reduce their acceptance rate and make some money off of application fees.

Your likely to get in pretty much anywhere bottom t-14 if you play your cards right and you really do have strong softs and the WE you said you did. That being said, I am guessing you will get some mixed results, maybe some waitlisting. That's the nature of splitters though.

[plenipotentiary]

Not a sure thing, but you have a shot at CCN, and possibly money from MVP (especially M).

[sgtgrumbles]

HYS are a waste of time. 3.58/174 should be good shot for NYU RD. With CLS or UofC, though, ED would probably be needed for a good shot, mainly because it is later in the cycle (people who RD'd with your numbers and got in applied at least a month ago last cycle).

According to the TLS graphs from last year's cycle, Columbia didn't start rendering RD decisions until January; UofC started in mid-December. Given that, will a mid-November application submission really hurt me? On the other hand, NYU did most of its RD admitting in mid- to late-November.

[im_blue]

I would ED at Columbia or NYU if you don't mind forgoing money at a lower T14.

[Lermontov]

Substantial money from M last year with similar story and stats (GPA actually slightly lower). Didn't apply to V. Definitely possible to get some with your numbers.