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brettfavre4 · Post by **brettfavre4** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:54 pm

I have a 3.7 and just recently took the LSAT. What type of score do I need to be considered at ANY of these schools???

Ragged · Post by **Ragged** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:55 pm

170+ is a good score to aim for for you.

bostonboy870 · Post by **bostonboy870** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:55 pm

IAFG · Post by **IAFG** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:57 pm

bostonboy870 wrote:~167

submedian GPA is going to need to do better than that

bostonboy870 · Post by **bostonboy870** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:02 pm

IAFG wrote:
bostonboy870 wrote:~167
submedian GPA is going to need to do better than that

At Cornell, 3.7 is over median and 167 is median iirc. OP asked what score he would need to be considered at "any" of the schools.

IAFG · Post by **IAFG** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:04 pm

bostonboy870 wrote:
IAFG wrote:
bostonboy870 wrote:~167
submedian GPA is going to need to do better than that
At Cornell, 3.7 is over median and 167 is median iirc. OP asked what score he would need to be considered at "any" of the schools.

looked it up; 3.7/168. i was mistaken.

Bildungsroman · Post by **Bildungsroman** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:04 pm

bostonboy870 wrote: At Cornell, 3.7 is over median and 167 is median iirc.

You do not rc. Cornell's median LSAT went up to 168, and Berkeley's new LSAT median is still paired with a much, much higher GPA.

bostonboy870 · Post by **bostonboy870** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:07 pm

Bildungsroman wrote:
bostonboy870 wrote: At Cornell, 3.7 is over median and 167 is median iirc.
You do not rc. Cornell's median LSAT went up to 168, and Berkeley's new LSAT median is still paired with a much, much higher GPA.

brettfavre4 wrote:What type of score do I need to be considered at ANY of these schools???

A 3.7 and ~167 would be "considered" at Cornell. I was off by one point on the Cornell median but that doesn't disprove my point.

St.Remy · Post by **St.Remy** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:12 pm

bostonboy870 wrote:A 3.7 and ~167 would be "considered" at Cornell. I was off by one point on the Cornell median but that doesn't disprove my point.

The only way to disprove it is to apply with exactly those numbers to the T14. So no, Bildungsroman's comments don't disprove what you said, but they definitely do call it into question. I would be much more nervous with my chances at cracking the T14 with a 3.7 and a 167 than I would be with a 3.7 and a 168 this coming cycle.

bostonboy870 · Post by **bostonboy870** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:14 pm

St.Remy wrote:
bostonboy870 wrote:A 3.7 and ~167 would be "considered" at Cornell. I was off by one point on the Cornell median but that doesn't disprove my point.
The only way to disprove it is to apply with exactly those numbers to the T14. So no, Bildungsroman's comments don't disprove what you said, but they definitely do call it into question. I would be much more nervous with my chances at cracking the T14 with a 3.7 and a 167 than I would be with a 3.7 and a 168 this coming cycle.

Well obviously you would be more nervous getting admitted with a lower LSAT score rather than a higher LSAT score. I was just giving a minimum LSAT for the OP to get "considered" at "any" of the t14.

St.Remy · Post by **St.Remy** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:19 pm

bostonboy870 wrote:Well obviously you would be more nervous getting admitted with a lower LSAT score rather than a higher LSAT score. I was just giving a minimum LSAT for the OP to get "considered" at "any" of the t14.

But the implication of course wasn't just being considered, but being seriously considered. That is where the wall sets in between 167 and 168. A person with a 3.7 and 168 could be average in all other respects and still be a serious contender for being admitted to Cornell. A 3.7 167 would have to have something else going on in order to have a decent chance.

If you want to identify the absolute minimum LSAT that a T14 would consider, well I'm sure that with an interesting enough story + great work experience + URM status a 15x would have a shot at Boalt.

Post by **vanwinkle** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:20 pm

If you're below both medians for all T14 schools you're not going to be seriously considered at any of them, barring URM status and/or truly epic softs.

bostonboy870 · Post by **bostonboy870** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:27 pm

St.Remy wrote:
bostonboy870 wrote:Well obviously you would be more nervous getting admitted with a lower LSAT score rather than a higher LSAT score. I was just giving a minimum LSAT for the OP to get "considered" at "any" of the t14.
But the implication of course wasn't just being considered, but being seriously considered.

Says you.

IAFG · Post by **IAFG** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:28 pm

bostonboy870 wrote:
St.Remy wrote:
bostonboy870 wrote:Well obviously you would be more nervous getting admitted with a lower LSAT score rather than a higher LSAT score. I was just giving a minimum LSAT for the OP to get "considered" at "any" of the t14.
But the implication of course wasn't just being considered, but being seriously considered.
Says~~you~~ reality.

im_blue · Post by **im_blue** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:00 pm

168 - Cornell
169 - Michigan
170 - rest of lower T14

Basically you have a shot if you hit a T14's median LSAT (except for Berkeley which really loves high GPAs).

tazmolover · Post by **tazmolover** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:40 am

bostonboy870 wrote:
IAFG wrote:
bostonboy870 wrote:~167
submedian GPA is going to need to do better than that
At Cornell, 3.7 is over median and 167 is median iirc. OP asked what score he would need to be considered at "any" of the schools.

At Cornell 3.7 is exactly at median and 167 is 1 point below median. Look at updated medians.

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