Chances at Top 7 + Cornell Forum

[m3taphysician]

Forget it

[005618502]

Hey everyone,
I know this is all highly speculative, but I figure I'll give it a shot just for the heck of it.
Looking to apply to: Harvard (legacy), Stanford, Columbia, NYU, Chicago, UPenn, Cornell, and Yeshiva (Cardozo).
Might do ED at NYU/Columbia/Chicago...

Currently in my Junior year at a T20, Philosophy major.

LSAC GPA: 3.90 (4.0 every semester except for Fall of sophomore year)
Major GPA: 3.98
LSAT: figure a 171 (averaging around a 170-173 on practice test; taking it in December.)

ECs:
Philosophy Club - Founder & Director, highly successful club
Healing Spaces Community Service Project - Finance Director, oversaw fundraising efforts for the project and raised over $3,000 myself
College Republicans - Secretary, Elections Delegate at state convention & Treasurer
Investment Group - Analyst

I'm also an Undergraduate Affiliate of a couple of campus organizations.

Should have highly laudatory recommendations.

Thanks!

Your softs are average/good, far from great. Your GPA is great. Come back when you have taken the LSAT. 173+ in anywhere 170 probably in from 7-14 maybe ccn. I wouldnt worry till you have a LSAT score.

Anyone know how much it helps to be a legacy from Harrrrvard? Do your parents donate? (would make a large difference)

[jcunni5]

First, there's saying top 7 is meaningless its T3 T6 (T10) T14

assuming 171 but the above poster is right this is all pretty useless w/o a concrete score
Harvard: out
Stanford: definitely worth a shot totally depends on what they think of your softs
Columbia: WL/out
Chicago: In
NYU: they just got a 172 median so its hard to say WL/in
Penn: in with $ (prolly)
Cornell: in
Yeshiva: full ride +stipen

in terms of ED I'm kind of doubtful you can get into Columbia but Chicago a near definite with ED probably w/o as well, if you like NYU better than Chi that would be the place where an ED could make the difference

[005618502]

Why Penn and Cornell but no Michigan, Virginia. I would apply to all T14, see who gives you the most money... then go there.

Of course if you get the stated LSAt score

[dbt]

Assuming a 170 since you've been averaging between 170-173. Remember that you really should be averaging around 3 points above whatever you're aiming for, because it's very common for people to drop 2-3 points on test day.

Harvard (legacy) - Out
Stanford - Decent shot
Columbia - Decent shot
NYU - In
Chicago - In
UPenn - In
Cornell - In
Yeshiva (Cardozo) - In

Columbia's numbers have been cranking up so you'd probably need a 171/2+ to have a good shot even with that GPA. Your numbers are fine for Stanford but they have a very low admit rate and tend to accept people with really impressive creds - yours are good but fairly typical for these kinds of applicants.

[m3taphysician]

Nine

[Patriot1208]

for consideration...
my father attended HLS and gives them a lot of money. I'm not talking seven figures here, but a large sum.

You still aren't getting in without a 173 or better.

[005618502]

for consideration...
my father attended HLS and gives them a lot of money. I'm not talking seven figures here, but a large sum.

not interested in going to Mich because it's just too fucking cold haha. I would brave the cold for Chicago, but not Mich. i would do Cornell over Michigan because it's smaller and I feel that if I went to Cornell I would be one of the top students.

UVA is in a suburb, granted a nice suburb, but a suburb nonetheless. I would only do Cornell if I didn't get into a T6. I really want to go to LS in a city.

The money donation will help greatly, i hate to say it, but get a 171+ and i think your into HLS. People whos parents donate have gotten in with worse.

[bk1]

not interested in going to Mich because it's just too fucking cold haha. I would brave the cold for Chicago, but not Mich. i would do Cornell over Michigan because it's smaller and I feel that if I went to Cornell I would be one of the top students.

I doubt your class rank would be significantly different whether you want to UMich or Cornell.

[Nom Sawyer]

for consideration...
my father attended HLS and gives them a lot of money. I'm not talking seven figures here, but a large sum.

You still aren't getting in without a 173 or better.

Actually quite a lot of 3.98, 170 ~ 172 types got into HLS this past cycle [it seemed they were focusing on a higher GPA]...

Combine that with legacy/donations (which probably do play a role, even if not as much as UG) and I'd say HLS would be pretty likely.

However this is all speculative... take the LSAT first and then you'll have a much better idea

[CanadianWolf]

His GPA is a 3.9, not a 3.98. Assuming your LSAT score & assuming that you would be one of the top students at Cornell is not reasonable. Do you really believe that Michigan is significantly colder than Cornell ?
Although philosophy majors tend to do well on the LSAT(second highest scoring major after physics/math major), writing tends to be an issue as writing a philosophy paper is much different than writing a law school exam.

[005618502]

His GPA is a 3.9, not a 3.98. Assuming your LSAT score & assuming that you would be one of the top students at Cornell is not reasonable. Do you really believe that Michigan is significantly colder than Cornell ?

haha

[rayiner]

Egregious pro-Cornell trolling.

[005618502]

Egregious pro-Cornell trolling.

It is a good school.... not much worse the MVP, so i dont think its to bad

[NU_Jet55]

Hey everyone,
I know this is all highly speculative, but I figure I'll give it a shot just for the heck of it.
Looking to apply to: Harvard (legacy), Stanford, Columbia, NYU, Chicago, UPenn, Cornell, and Yeshiva (Cardozo).
Might do ED at NYU/Columbia/Chicago...

Currently in my Junior year at a T20, Philosophy major.

LSAC GPA: 3.90 (4.0 every semester except for Fall of sophomore year)
Major GPA: 3.98
LSAT: figure a 171 (averaging around a 170-173 on practice test; taking it in December.)

ECs:
Philosophy Club - Founder & Director, highly successful club
Healing Spaces Community Service Project - Finance Director, oversaw fundraising efforts for the project and raised over $3,000 myself
College Republicans - Secretary, Elections Delegate at state convention & Treasurer
Investment Group - Analyst

I'm also an Undergraduate Affiliate of a couple of campus organizations.

Should have highly laudatory recommendations.

Thanks!

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/

HTH

[Patriot1208]

Egregious pro-Cornell trolling.

Well it's not Georgetown, at least.

[tas817]

From what I have been told Harvard doesn't give legacy for graduate programs. Could be wrong.

[bk1]

Egregious pro-Cornell trolling.

Seems like anti-Cornell trolling. "I could do sooooo much better at Cornell because they are worse."

[m3taphysician]

Nine.

[albusdumbledore]

for consideration...
my father attended HLS and gives them a lot of money. I'm not talking seven figures here, but a large sum.

not interested in going to Mich because it's just too fucking cold haha. I would brave the cold for Chicago, but not Mich. i would do Cornell over Michigan because it's smaller and I feel that if I went to Cornell I would be one of the top students.

UVA is in a suburb, granted a nice suburb, but a suburb nonetheless. I would only do Cornell if I didn't get into a T6. I really want to go to LS in a city.

This post is bleeding pretentiousness...

[CanadianWolf]

Thank you for clearing that up. Now that you have graduated among the top law students at Cornell, which state bars should we assume that you are passing ?

"I visited Cornell once..." and am now among the top law students.

[bk1]

for consideration...
my father attended HLS and gives them a lot of money. I'm not talking seven figures here, but a large sum.

not interested in going to Mich because it's just too fucking cold haha. I would brave the cold for Chicago, but not Mich. i would do Cornell over Michigan because it's smaller and I feel that if I went to Cornell I would be one of the top students.

UVA is in a suburb, granted a nice suburb, but a suburb nonetheless. I would only do Cornell if I didn't get into a T6. I really want to go to LS in a city.

This post is bleeding pretentiousness...

Suburbs are for the poor.

[m3taphysician]

for consideration...
my father attended HLS and gives them a lot of money. I'm not talking seven figures here, but a large sum.

not interested in going to Mich because it's just too fucking cold haha. I would brave the cold for Chicago, but not Mich. i would do Cornell over Michigan because it's smaller and I feel that if I went to Cornell I would be one of the top students.

UVA is in a suburb, granted a nice suburb, but a suburb nonetheless. I would only do Cornell if I didn't get into a T6. I really want to go to LS in a city.

This post is bleeding pretentiousness...

Suburbs are for the poor.

Nine

[CanadianWolf]

This has to be a flame.
P.S. If you attend law school, even Harvard, you do realize that you will be sitting alongside the common riffraff, don't you ?

[m3taphysician]

This has to be a flame.

Nine.