2.98 / 176 splitter seeking advice Forum

[Dracain]

Hi everyone,

As you can tell from the title, my numbers are a 2.98 UGPA and a 176 LSAT. Some other information that may be relevant:

- Upward trend in my last 3 semesters (45 credits)
- Top Canadian university
- Graduate degree with 3.8 GPA

Below is a list of schools that I am planning to apply to within the next few weeks and I plan on having all applications complete by the end of October at the latest.

Columbia
NYU
Michigan
Virginia
Pennsylvania
Duke
Northwestern
Cornell
Georgetown
George Washington
Boston University
Fordham

I have researched the schools on the list using LSN + LSP + TLS posts of splitters with similar stats so I have somewhat of an idea of what to expect but I would appreciate some further opinions. I would also appreciate advice on the best possible place to submit an ED app. I am personally leaning towards NYU (LSP goes from weak consider -> consider when I select ED to NYU) however this still seems like a longshot given that I have a sub 3.00 UGPA. I would really like to practice in New York and am thus leaning to schools in that area.

Please assume average softs / PS and chance away!

Thanks and GL to everyone in the upcoming cycle / october LSAT!

[seespotrun]

NU. Good luck!

Also, IBDF.

[005618502]

Since your grades are from out of the country, dont they not count?

Or is this only for international students outside of Mexico and Canada?

Look into it.

[Dracain]

Since your grades are from out of the country, dont they not count?

Sorry I should have clarified, my LSAC UGPA is 2.98 which is from a Canadian Institution that is recognized by the LSAC. From what I understand on LSAC's website, grades from Canadian insitutions are treated in the same way as grades from American Institutions.

[FlanAl]

is a 2.98 good from a canadian school? do people even get 4.0's in canada? I grew up in the US system but went to uni in the british system and am kinda just curious what canada is like.

[bk1]

LSP does not do a good job of predicting for splitters. Looking at LSN, the pickings are slim for sub 3.0's, even when they are 170+, URM's being an exception but even then only slightly so. I would definitely bet that that the T6 and Boalt are out. For reference encyclopediabrown, a poster here, had similar numbers to you and was deferred then rejected by NYU ED. On a side note, his cycle looks underwhelming even for a sub 3.0. However, looking over this past cycle there are no sub 3.0, 170+, non-URM acceptances at CLS, UChi, NYU, Boalt, UPenn, or UMich.

I think the strongest ED options are UVa and NU, the latter only if you have 1+ year of full-time work experience. Both are much more forgiving to supersplitters than their peer schools. UVa can still get you a job in NYC and I would bet NU as well.

[Dracain]

is a 2.98 good from a canadian school? do people even get 4.0's in canada? I grew up in the US system but went to uni in the british system and am kinda just curious what canada is like.

From what I know about the various Canadian schools, their marking system is pretty much identical to American schools. The average grade for a given course in my program is usually B- to a B so anywhere between 2.7 -> 3.0, thus my 2.98 UGPA would be considered average. The important thing to note, I think, is that my 2.98 is going to be viewed or treated almost identical to a 2.98 at an American school by LSAC / adcomms.

To answer your other question, I'd imagine getting a 4.0 in Canadian schools occurs in just about the same frequency as it does at American schools in general. Naturally its rare to find students with 4.0 GPA's but there are plenty of students with 3.8+ , 3.9+ GPA's. Its definitely not unheard of or anything like that.

Hope that answers your questions!

[FlanAl]

hey cool thanks