UK educated (LLB)/US citizen/Lower second/175/admitted in NY Forum
- piccolittle
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UK educated (LLB)/US citizen/Lower second/175/admitted in NY
Anyone have any advice on where to apply? I asked ages ago but didn't really get an answer. I have a 2:2 (missed out on a 2:1 by a %$&# point!) from one of the top UK law schools, and took the NY Bar last summer (admitted this year). Would you consider that to be a positive soft, or do you think it won't influence anything? Admissions people don't seem too enthusiastic about it, but obviously I phrased the question more as "Will this impact my ability to enroll?" than "Is this going to make you accept me?"
Obviously I have no GPA (unless that CC course I took after high school turns out to be credited) so it's hard to predict where I might have a shot, but I know adcomms have seen it all before so there's no use pretending that my grades are amazing.
Help?
Obviously I have no GPA (unless that CC course I took after high school turns out to be credited) so it's hard to predict where I might have a shot, but I know adcomms have seen it all before so there's no use pretending that my grades are amazing.
Help?
- kazu
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Re: UK educated (LLB)/US citizen/Lower second/175/admitted in NY
?? You took the NY bar? Are you talking about LLM or JD?piccolittle wrote:Anyone have any advice on where to apply? I asked ages ago but didn't really get an answer. I have a 2:2 (missed out on a 2:1 by a %$&# point!) from one of the top UK law schools, and took the NY Bar last summer (admitted this year). Would you consider that to be a positive soft, or do you think it won't influence anything? Admissions people don't seem too enthusiastic about it, but obviously I phrased the question more as "Will this impact my ability to enroll?" than "Is this going to make you accept me?"
Obviously I have no GPA (unless that CC course I took after high school turns out to be credited) so it's hard to predict where I might have a shot, but I know adcomms have seen it all before so there's no use pretending that my grades are amazing.
Help?
(I think I asked this before as well but I'm too lazy to go digging through your posts....)
- rayiner
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Re: UK educated (LLB)/US citizen/Lower second/175/admitted in NY
If you have a 175 LSAT and not terrible grades you'll get into a great law school.
- piccolittle
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Re: UK educated (LLB)/US citizen/Lower second/175/admitted in NY
Thanks for responding both times! I know it's awfully unorthodox, which is why I'm so confused. My LLB made me eligible, so I gave it a shot. Now I'm applying to JD programs.kazu wrote: ?? You took the NY bar? Are you talking about LLM or JD?
(I think I asked this before as well but I'm too lazy to go digging through your posts....)

- kazu
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Re: UK educated (LLB)/US citizen/Lower second/175/admitted in NY
Okay then, I probably gave you this advice before but you need an actual LSAT score in order for us to chance you... Otherwise the difference between a 165, 170, and a 175 is huge. Those might be nice minor softs but I don't think they're game-changing. If you get a 175+, I'd say you have a solid chance at T6 (dunno if HYS would bite since 2:2 is, I think, an "Average" but you would still have a chance there as well).piccolittle wrote:Thanks for responding both times! I know it's awfully unorthodox, which is why I'm so confused. My LLB made me eligible, so I gave it a shot. Now I'm applying to JD programs.kazu wrote: ?? You took the NY bar? Are you talking about LLM or JD?
(I think I asked this before as well but I'm too lazy to go digging through your posts....)
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- Nulli Secundus
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Re: UK educated (LLB)/US citizen/Lower second/175/admitted in NY
Um, why exactly do you need a JD if you are already admitted to the bar? You intend to use JD degree back at your own country?
- CrimsonCal
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Re: UK educated (LLB)/US citizen/Lower second/175/admitted in NY
You should be applying to LLM programs... JD doesn't make sense for you and schools may not even consider you for admission in light of your LLB, although your LSAT score is great
2:2 is quite low for a GPA (I would say the equivalent of a 3.0 in the US), most UK firms wouldn't touch a 2:2 with a 10ft pool
2:2 is quite low for a GPA (I would say the equivalent of a 3.0 in the US), most UK firms wouldn't touch a 2:2 with a 10ft pool
- LLB2JD
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Re: UK educated (LLB)/US citizen/Lower second/175/admitted in NY
Very wrongCrimsonCal wrote:You should be applying to LLM programs... JD doesn't make sense for you and schools may not even consider you for admission in light of your LLB, although your LSAT score is great
2:2 is quite low for a GPA (I would say the equivalent of a 3.0 in the US), most UK firms wouldn't touch a 2:2 with a 10ft pool
- kazu
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Re: UK educated (LLB)/US citizen/Lower second/175/admitted in NY
Yes, but with foreign GPAs U.S. law schools don't equate it exactly to a numerical U.S. GPA... instead they just put more emphasis on the LSAT. Especially since foreign GPAs don't affect their rankings.CrimsonCal wrote: 2:2 is quite low for a GPA (I would say the equivalent of a 3.0 in the US), most UK firms wouldn't touch a 2:2 with a 10ft pool