NA URM 3.54 172 Forum

[Tarbeezy]

What would my chances be at GULC? And just for the heck of it, would it be a possibility to get in to Harvard, Yale, or Stanford?

[D-ROCCA]

GULC-in
HYS-out

[Veyron]

GULC - In

Harvard - In

Yale/Stanford - G-d knows, no mortal being does.

[2011Law]

http://gulc.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats

Just take a look at the numbers... your in at GULC. Yale I don't think so, Harvard and Stanford maybe if you sacrifice a goat to the Admissions Gods.

[Tarbeezy]

Haha if I have to sacrifice a goat to get in to Harvard I think i could find a petting zoo around. Thanks guys Georgetown is my #1 and hopefully i'll get in.

[mbw]

What would my chances be at GULC? And just for the heck of it, would it be a possibility to get in to Harvard, Yale, or Stanford?

Cultural affiliation and/or tribal enrollment? Significant evidence of cultural affiliation?

If so, Harvard and Stanford, probably in. Can you explain your mediocre GPA (as in, "it was difficult, coming out of Indian Country, to acclimate to the dominant culture, yadda yadda"?) If so, then you're in. You are definitely in to much better than GULC, so please, please, PLEASE, do not waste your numbers (well, again, IF you're affiliated/enrolled.)

If you're a box-checker, you'll still get in to at least 3-4 T14s, depending upon who is desperate for NDN diversity in any given year.

Expect a bunch of people in this thread to not know crap about NDN admissions. Expect even NDNs who have gone through the process to make mistakes -- NDN admissions are so hit-and-miss, it's difficult to say. I have a friend two years ago with a slightly lower LSAT but a near perfect GPA -- he's at HYS now. But others last year with a great LSAT and not so hot GPA -- T6 wouldn't touch 'em. My suggestion -- find an admissions consultant who works with URMs, preferably some NDN clients. Definitely worth the money to work with a professional, and not rely on TLS.

And good luck!

[dominkay]

I think you're out at YHS but in at CCN. Forget Georgetown. You can do better.

[Veyron]

I think you're out at YHS but in at CCN. Forget Georgetown. You can do better.

People see to write off Georgetown tons on this chatblog but if you want to work in government or for a political organization, the education that you will get there is tops outside of HYS and, as many of these positions are acquired much differently than firm jobs (i.e. personal connections just as important as grades if not moreso), Georgetown will also provide the best networking opportunities.

[mbw]

I think you're out at YHS but in at CCN. Forget Georgetown. You can do better.

Actually, if you look at T6 NDN admissions, the OP has a much better chance at Harvard and Stanford than any of CCN. However, the best shot below HYS is Berkeley, UVA and Michigan -- where the majority of NDNs in the T14 reside. If the OP is a Michigan NDN, then Mich is a lock.

[A'nold]

Yale. NA is probably the best URM status.

[dominkay]

I think you're out at YHS but in at CCN. Forget Georgetown. You can do better.

Actually, if you look at T6 NDN admissions, the OP has a much better chance at Harvard and Stanford than any of CCN. However, the best shot below HYS is Berkeley, UVA and Michigan -- where the majority of NDNs in the T14 reside. If the OP is a Michigan NDN, then Mich is a lock.

OP has a shot at CCN just based on their numbers; wouldn't their URM status just serve as a boost?

[mbw]

I think you're out at YHS but in at CCN. Forget Georgetown. You can do better.

Actually, if you look at T6 NDN admissions, the OP has a much better chance at Harvard and Stanford than any of CCN. However, the best shot below HYS is Berkeley, UVA and Michigan -- where the majority of NDNs in the T14 reside. If the OP is a Michigan NDN, then Mich is a lock.

OP has a shot at CCN just based on their numbers; wouldn't their URM status just serve as a boost?

I've been watching the trends for NDN attendance (versus admittance) in the T14 for three years, with further research dating back about a decade, and some schools show no real interest in attracting NDN candidates - Y & CCN together account for a total of 7 of the 102 NDN law students currently enrolled in the T14, whereas 23 are enrolled in H & S. It could be self-selection, but I imagine that some students, if appropriately motivated financially, would choose CCN over BVM - but the numbers don't indicate that happens.

[Haribo]

Yale. NA is probably the best URM status.

Not really. NA as URM is really hit or miss. It depends a lot on whether the school needs more NA's and whether the person checking the box is just that - checking the box and nothing else - or has a history of NA activism/involvement/etc. A strong diversity statement can get the OP into HYS (maybe) but he could also not get any boost at all. mbw, as always, has the credited response on boosts.