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[schopenhauer]

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[09042014]

Very Slim.

I might throw that ED to NYU, they seem to swallow a low GPA better.

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[stratocophic]

Sorry, CLS is a no-fly zone for splitters. They'll shoot you down without a second thought, just check their LSN profile over the past few years for confirmation. DF's advice regarding NYU is credited. You don't need to ED T14... but you run the risk of getting shut out, much like myself. I skipped a few (N P N and C), but I doubt that the results would have been different (except at Cornell) had I applied to them.

[lawls]

No one is going to ask why you retook a 176? (I really hope it was the 176 that was the first take...)

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[doublefocus4]

I can't help it. I have to ask. Why did u retake a 176????

[Dtackpat75]

Top UG, 2 years Work Experience and a hard science major. That sounds pretty good. since you are a splitter I wouldn't ED you just never know what you are going to get. I think you have a shot at Columbia but if you ED you aren't going to get any money. Meanwhile, you never know maybe a Chicago or Michigan sends you a decent amount of money for the hard science major and high LSAT. Schools are going to want hard science majors and most of them aren't going to have over inflated Poli Sci/English/History GPA's. But I would think that you definitely have a shot at Columbia. Be sure to play up the science major and work experience (especially if they are related).

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[Dr. Strangelove]

I think your chances aren't terrible at getting into Columbia ED just unlikely.
I'd apply ED to NYU if I was in your situation.

[stratocophic]

Sorry, CLS is a no-fly zone for splitters. They'll shoot you down without a second thought, just check their LSN profile over the past few years for confirmation. DF's advice regarding NYU is credited. You don't need to ED T14... but you run the risk of getting shut out, much like myself. I skipped a few (N P N and C), but I doubt that the results would have been different (except at Cornell) had I applied to them.

Ah, a fellow engineering splitter!

Yeah, the data does seem to suggest so (if only LSP were accurate ). Although one problem with being a splitter (as you know) is that there are so few people with your numbers, so for any given year there are only two or three data points you can analyze - some people have miraculous cycles, some people have disastrous cycles. An comparison of soft factors that contribute to these, as well as application times, is often lacking as well. There are 3.2x/171s that ED into Penn, and this cycle a 3.4/179 made it into Harvard (both non URMs); both are definitely anomalies and it is unwise to expect oneself to be one, but still it can be hard to tell when you also have a 3.25/179 being shut out of the T14.

I am definitely afraid of getting shut out, which is why I am feeling I might need to play an ED card somewhere (I can't afford to wait out another cycle). I think your cycle may have been affected by the fact that you applied later though, as I've heard that applying late kills splitter applications. Applying early, aside from the obvious of being one of the first few apps the adcomms see, also means that they have time to balance out the effects of your sub-median GPA later in the cycle. Do you mind if I ask if you're applying again this year or if you are now a 1L?

It was definitely a factor, I'd have pretty much been a lock at GTown... everywhere else was uncertain, though. TLS has it on good authority (vanwinkle, Mod and fount of info for all things UVA) that UVA will be doing its extended ED program next year. Given the success, I'd be surprised if GTown didn't as well. I'd ED at the school you like most and then go 2nd choice -> UVA -> GTown as time allows... or flip GTown/UVA if you're worried about striking out.

Nah, I'm going to WashU unless a WL complicates things. It's a risk, but I'm somewhat debt averse and somewhat of a prestige whore so it's a pretty good balance for me.

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[Dr. Strangelove]

I think your chances aren't terrible at getting into Columbia ED just unlikely.
I'd apply ED to NYU if I was in your situation.

If my next choice after Columbia is Michigan, would it be wiser to just ED there instead?

Possibly, depends on how badly you want to get into Michigan.
Your chances are pretty good for RD but you may not get in while you'll probably be able to get in ED.
Also, keep in mind that you will have to start during the summer session.