I don't see Berkeley working out for you. To get in with your numbers, you need to stand out in some way. Unless you're hiding something, it sounds as though the rest of your app is pretty average.boilercat wrote:I'm realizing I really want Berkeley... Any tips? FWIW I have a significant upward trend (and degree gpa is more than .1 higher than LSDAS) and my parents were immigrants (diversity? i'm not hispanic or black, though)...
i'm rethinking Uchicago ED...
Also maybe going to get targeted recs for Berk and SLS
3.6 / 163->171. ED at Chicago? Any shot at Boalt? Retake? Forum
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Re: 3.6 / 163->171. ED at Chicago? Any shot at Boalt? Retake?
I normally agree with most things VoidSix says, but I would not write a "Why Chicago" essay. It'd be similar to writing a "Why Harvard" I think, since Chicago specifically encourages you to fit everything into the 2-page PS on the website.VoidSix wrote:In other words, put a lot of time in on your personal statement, write "Why Chicago?" or "Why NYU?" essays, and hope for the best.
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Re: 3.6 / 163->171. ED at Chicago? Any shot at Boalt? Retake?
Yeah, I know it's not going to happen.VoidSix wrote:I think Berkeley is about the last place that would accept you with a 3.6 after HYS, but if Berkeley is your first choice I definitely wouldn't ED Chicago. Write a GPA addendum, write a 4 page PS, and make sure your LORs are good, apply now (or soon) and you might have a shot. Berkeley says to apply in October, mid-November at the latest.
Is a GPA addendum really appropriate for someone who's probably going to graduate cum laude?
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Re: 3.6 / 163->171. ED at Chicago? Any shot at Boalt? Retake?
You get cum laude for a 3.6? Lucky. Also, I find it amusing that you want Berkeley because I too have recently realized that I want Cal and I have pretty much the same stats as you. I guess we covet what we can't have.boilercat wrote:Yeah, I know it's not going to happen.VoidSix wrote:I think Berkeley is about the last place that would accept you with a 3.6 after HYS, but if Berkeley is your first choice I definitely wouldn't ED Chicago. Write a GPA addendum, write a 4 page PS, and make sure your LORs are good, apply now (or soon) and you might have a shot. Berkeley says to apply in October, mid-November at the latest.
Is a GPA addendum really appropriate for someone who's probably going to graduate cum laude?
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Re: 3.6 / 163->171. ED at Chicago? Any shot at Boalt? Retake?
If you have an upward trend and think there is an actual reason for a GPA addendum, do it. I know someone who got into HLS, YLS, and SLS with a cancel, 166, 177 with an LSAT addendum and a GPA addendum for a 3.8. So I don't think it will hurt you.
Also, at my university, you can graduate cum laude with a 3.3. It's more of a qualifier for your thesis, and a 3.3 isn't a "good" GPA by law school standards, so I think that's a non-issue.
Also, at my university, you can graduate cum laude with a 3.3. It's more of a qualifier for your thesis, and a 3.3 isn't a "good" GPA by law school standards, so I think that's a non-issue.
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- los blancos

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Re: 3.6 / 163->171. ED at Chicago? Any shot at Boalt? Retake?
My degree GPA is a 3.7. Cum Laude is somewhere around that and only the top 15% get any sort of latin honors at this school.squelp wrote:You get cum laude for a 3.6? Lucky. Also, I find it amusing that you want Berkeley because I too have recently realized that I want Cal and I have pretty much the same stats as you. I guess we covet what we can't have.boilercat wrote:Yeah, I know it's not going to happen.VoidSix wrote:I think Berkeley is about the last place that would accept you with a 3.6 after HYS, but if Berkeley is your first choice I definitely wouldn't ED Chicago. Write a GPA addendum, write a 4 page PS, and make sure your LORs are good, apply now (or soon) and you might have a shot. Berkeley says to apply in October, mid-November at the latest.
Is a GPA addendum really appropriate for someone who's probably going to graduate cum laude?
Writing a GPA addendum seems strange to me since i'm in easily in the top fifth of my class in a tough major at a top school (and one of the schools that berk supposedly adjusts upwards). I don't know what I would say.
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Re: 3.6 / 163->171. ED at Chicago? Any shot at Boalt? Retake?
BUMP.
Ok, I have a question. Do I need to apply more safties?
I applied a little more than a week ago to HSCCNMVPDNC + UT-Austin and UCLA. I applied to Berk + USC around 3 weeks ago. I basically de facto EDed to Berkeley, told them I would withdraw everywhere else and enroll if I got in.
I'm starting to get really skeptical about my chances because of all the crazy shit that seems to be happening (see Mich and Berk threads). Could I strike out at H through Duke or am I just being very skeptical/nervous? FWIW I applied PT to Duke and I'm expecting to hear back within the next few days.
Time to shoot apps to GULC, Vandy, and WUSTL? The thing is, I'd probably go to USC over those three and everyone's telling me I'm auto-admit there. I'd also definitely prefer UCLA to GULC and Cornell, but I think I'm going to get WLed.
Any advice?
Ok, I have a question. Do I need to apply more safties?
I applied a little more than a week ago to HSCCNMVPDNC + UT-Austin and UCLA. I applied to Berk + USC around 3 weeks ago. I basically de facto EDed to Berkeley, told them I would withdraw everywhere else and enroll if I got in.
I'm starting to get really skeptical about my chances because of all the crazy shit that seems to be happening (see Mich and Berk threads). Could I strike out at H through Duke or am I just being very skeptical/nervous? FWIW I applied PT to Duke and I'm expecting to hear back within the next few days.
Time to shoot apps to GULC, Vandy, and WUSTL? The thing is, I'd probably go to USC over those three and everyone's telling me I'm auto-admit there. I'd also definitely prefer UCLA to GULC and Cornell, but I think I'm going to get WLed.
Any advice?
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Re: 3.6 / 163->171. ED at Chicago? Any shot at Boalt? Retake?
I think you're definitely in at a few of the places where you applied. I have very similar stats to you and just got Chicago RD. I bet you'll get at least one of CCN, and most of MVPDNC.boilercat wrote:BUMP.
Ok, I have a question. Do I need to apply more safties?
I applied a little more than a week ago to HSCCNMVPDNC + UT-Austin and UCLA. I applied to Berk + USC around 3 weeks ago. I basically de facto EDed to Berkeley, told them I would withdraw everywhere else and enroll if I got in.
I'm starting to get really skeptical about my chances because of all the crazy shit that seems to be happening (see Mich and Berk threads). Could I strike out at H through Duke or am I just being very skeptical/nervous? FWIW I applied PT to Duke and I'm expecting to hear back within the next few days.
Time to shoot apps to GULC, Vandy, and WUSTL? The thing is, I'd probably go to USC over those three and everyone's telling me I'm auto-admit there. I'd also definitely prefer UCLA to GULC and Cornell, but I think I'm going to get WLed.
Any advice?
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Re: 3.6 / 163->171. ED at Chicago? Any shot at Boalt? Retake?
If you are going to apply to GULC, Vandy and WUSTL just because you think you will be dinged at every single one of the schools you have already applied to, don't do it. You will end up getting into one of them.boilercat wrote:BUMP.
Ok, I have a question. Do I need to apply more safties?
I applied a little more than a week ago to HSCCNMVPDNC + UT-Austin and UCLA. I applied to Berk + USC around 3 weeks ago. I basically de facto EDed to Berkeley, told them I would withdraw everywhere else and enroll if I got in.
I'm starting to get really skeptical about my chances because of all the crazy shit that seems to be happening (see Mich and Berk threads). Could I strike out at H through Duke or am I just being very skeptical/nervous? FWIW I applied PT to Duke and I'm expecting to hear back within the next few days.
Time to shoot apps to GULC, Vandy, and WUSTL? The thing is, I'd probably go to USC over those three and everyone's telling me I'm auto-admit there. I'd also definitely prefer UCLA to GULC and Cornell, but I think I'm going to get WLed.
Any advice?
Although you're right about this cycle being crazy. I've got a 3.5/171 and am getting absolutely creamed.
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Re: 3.6 / 163->171. ED at Chicago? Any shot at Boalt? Retake?
Hmm if I get one of CCN I'll be more than satisfied. Did you do anything specific for Chicago? I just sent them my normal PS/DS/Addendum combo.squelp wrote:I think you're definitely in at a few of the places where you applied. I have very similar stats to you and just got Chicago RD. I bet you'll get at least one of CCN, and most of MVPDNC.boilercat wrote:BUMP.
Ok, I have a question. Do I need to apply more safties?
I applied a little more than a week ago to HSCCNMVPDNC + UT-Austin and UCLA. I applied to Berk + USC around 3 weeks ago. I basically de facto EDed to Berkeley, told them I would withdraw everywhere else and enroll if I got in.
I'm starting to get really skeptical about my chances because of all the crazy shit that seems to be happening (see Mich and Berk threads). Could I strike out at H through Duke or am I just being very skeptical/nervous? FWIW I applied PT to Duke and I'm expecting to hear back within the next few days.
Time to shoot apps to GULC, Vandy, and WUSTL? The thing is, I'd probably go to USC over those three and everyone's telling me I'm auto-admit there. I'd also definitely prefer UCLA to GULC and Cornell, but I think I'm going to get WLed.
Any advice?
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Re: 3.6 / 163->171. ED at Chicago? Any shot at Boalt? Retake?
Nope, no DS or addendum, and I had a similar retake situation. My softs are mediocre too, I was WL at Penn.boilercat wrote:Hmm if I get one of CCN I'll be more than satisfied. Did you do anything specific for Chicago? I just sent them my normal PS/DS/Addendum combo.squelp wrote:I think you're definitely in at a few of the places where you applied. I have very similar stats to you and just got Chicago RD. I bet you'll get at least one of CCN, and most of MVPDNC.boilercat wrote:BUMP.
Ok, I have a question. Do I need to apply more safties?
I applied a little more than a week ago to HSCCNMVPDNC + UT-Austin and UCLA. I applied to Berk + USC around 3 weeks ago. I basically de facto EDed to Berkeley, told them I would withdraw everywhere else and enroll if I got in.
I'm starting to get really skeptical about my chances because of all the crazy shit that seems to be happening (see Mich and Berk threads). Could I strike out at H through Duke or am I just being very skeptical/nervous? FWIW I applied PT to Duke and I'm expecting to hear back within the next few days.
Time to shoot apps to GULC, Vandy, and WUSTL? The thing is, I'd probably go to USC over those three and everyone's telling me I'm auto-admit there. I'd also definitely prefer UCLA to GULC and Cornell, but I think I'm going to get WLed.
Any advice?
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