3.66, 169 - Duke or Penn? Forum

[RamTitan]

Scored a 175 on a retake this weekend. Probably not a super accurate indicator of my real score, but I'm fairly certain I'll retake nonetheless

Edit - just for my own fun/amusement, I'm listing my tiers of desire for school choices

Tier 1 (dreaming) - Harvard, Stanford, Columbia
Tier 2 - Penn, Duke, Northwestern 150k, UVA
Tier 3 - Michigan, Cornell, Texas, Vanderbilt

No interest in NYU or Chicago?

I like NYU...not really sure why I didn't list it. I'd probably put it in the dream category since I doubt my parents would let me touch the money they saved for me if I moved to New York.

I've heard Chicago is in kind of a shit neighborhood, so I feel like my QOL would suffer if I attended there. Definitely will apply (depending on my retake score).

[Mikey]

Scored a 175 on a retake this weekend. Probably not a super accurate indicator of my real score, but I'm fairly certain I'll retake nonetheless

Edit - just for my own fun/amusement, I'm listing my tiers of desire for school choices

Tier 1 (dreaming) - Harvard, Stanford, Columbia
Tier 2 - Penn, Duke, Northwestern 150k, UVA
Tier 3 - Michigan, Cornell, Texas, Vanderbilt

No interest in NYU or Chicago?

I like NYU...not really sure why I didn't list it. I'd probably put it in the dream category since I doubt my parents would let me touch the money they saved for me if I moved to New York.

I've heard Chicago is in kind of a shit neighborhood, so I feel like my QOL would suffer if I attended there. Definitely will apply (depending on my retake score).

Not to get too personal, but why would your parents not be too fond of the idea of you going to NY for Columbia, NYU or Cornell? They're all great schools and if you get good money from them, they are certainly debatable as great options.

[RamTitan]

Scored a 175 on a retake this weekend. Probably not a super accurate indicator of my real score, but I'm fairly certain I'll retake nonetheless

Edit - just for my own fun/amusement, I'm listing my tiers of desire for school choices

Tier 1 (dreaming) - Harvard, Stanford, Columbia
Tier 2 - Penn, Duke, Northwestern 150k, UVA
Tier 3 - Michigan, Cornell, Texas, Vanderbilt

No interest in NYU or Chicago?

I like NYU...not really sure why I didn't list it. I'd probably put it in the dream category since I doubt my parents would let me touch the money they saved for me if I moved to New York.

I've heard Chicago is in kind of a shit neighborhood, so I feel like my QOL would suffer if I attended there. Definitely will apply (depending on my retake score).

Not to get too personal, but why would your parents not be too fond of the idea of you going to NY for Columbia, NYU or Cornell? They're all great schools and if you get good money from them, they are certainly debatable as great options.

They're scared midwesterners; simple as that lol. Retaking so I'm not completely beholden to them is another advantage of sitting in September.

[galadriel3019]

So now I'm thinking more like:

Chicago
Penn
UVA
Berkeley
Duke
Michigan
Northwestern - ED or nah? You have to go there if you ED, right?
Cornell
Georgetown
Texas
UCLA
Vanderbilt
Washu
USC - worth it?

Safeties
Colorado
Denver

This is a preemptive list for if I don't retake.

If you get in ED at Northwestern you have to go. There's all sorts of binding regulations surrounding ED, I'm sure they have information on it on their website. I'd read through it carefully before you make that call.

Maybe I missed you say it, but why Northwestern? You seem aware that with your stats you'd be a reach at some of the schools you listed. But how do you make the connection that you should ED at Northwestern? Knowing you may have a tough cycle doesn't mean you should ED at a place if you aren't really interested in going there. If it's a school you are passionate about then go for it. And it's totally possible that I misread the tone of your thread and that you love what it offers (so my apologies). But if you only want to apply to Northwestern because they have an ED option and are slightly more favorable to your stats… Then I think you run the risk of selling yourself short when it comes to making decisions later. You would very quickly limit your choice to a place that you don't sound terribly interested in.

[mwells56]

So now I'm thinking more like:

Chicago
Penn
UVA
Berkeley
Duke
Michigan
Northwestern - ED or nah? You have to go there if you ED, right?
Cornell
Georgetown
Texas
UCLA
Vanderbilt
Washu
USC - worth it?

Safeties
Colorado
Denver

This is a preemptive list for if I don't retake.

If you get in ED at Northwestern you have to go. There's all sorts of binding regulations surrounding ED, I'm sure they have information on it on their website. I'd read through it carefully before you make that call.

Maybe I missed you say it, but why Northwestern? You seem aware that with your stats you'd be a reach at some of the schools you listed. But how do you make the connection that you should ED at Northwestern? Knowing you may have a tough cycle doesn't mean you should ED at a place if you aren't really interested in going there. If it's a school you are passionate about then go for it. And it's totally possible that I misread the tone of your thread and that you love what it offers (so my apologies). But if you only want to apply to Northwestern because they have an ED option and are slightly more favorable to your stats… Then I think you run the risk of selling yourself short when it comes to making decisions later. You would very quickly limit your choice to a place that you don't sound terribly interested in.

Northwestern ED comes with an auto-150k scholarship if you get in and with these numbers he's not sure what kind of cash he could get from the rest of the t-14 if he even gets in.

[RamTitan]

So now I'm thinking more like:

Chicago
Penn
UVA
Berkeley
Duke
Michigan
Northwestern - ED or nah? You have to go there if you ED, right?
Cornell
Georgetown
Texas
UCLA
Vanderbilt
Washu
USC - worth it?

Safeties
Colorado
Denver

This is a preemptive list for if I don't retake.

If you get in ED at Northwestern you have to go. There's all sorts of binding regulations surrounding ED, I'm sure they have information on it on their website. I'd read through it carefully before you make that call.

Maybe I missed you say it, but why Northwestern? You seem aware that with your stats you'd be a reach at some of the schools you listed. But how do you make the connection that you should ED at Northwestern? Knowing you may have a tough cycle doesn't mean you should ED at a place if you aren't really interested in going there. If it's a school you are passionate about then go for it. And it's totally possible that I misread the tone of your thread and that you love what it offers (so my apologies). But if you only want to apply to Northwestern because they have an ED option and are slightly more favorable to your stats… Then I think you run the risk of selling yourself short when it comes to making decisions later. You would very quickly limit your choice to a place that you don't sound terribly interested in.

Northwestern ED comes with an auto-150k scholarship if you get in and with these numbers he's not sure what kind of cash he could get from the rest of the t-14 if he even gets in.

Yeah, that's a good explanation of my impulse. With that said, I do like Northwestern and have an extensive Chicago network, so the 150k Northwestern option is enticing. However, I am going to wait and see how I do on the retake before making any commitments.

[mukol]

White male with a 3.66 in English Writing and 169. Do I have a shot at Duke or Penn? I graduated from undergrad a year ago, so I'm not K-JD, and I have work experience in Internet marketing. Don't have a ton of impressive softs....I was president of multiple honors societies and was in a fraternity, wrote a play and had it produced, but that's about it.

If I can't get into those schools, where can I get into? Read that the lawschoolpredictor site wasn't accurate, so I'm hoping for some insightful info.

Retake.

[RamTitan]

White male with a 3.66 in English Writing and 169. Do I have a shot at Duke or Penn? I graduated from undergrad a year ago, so I'm not K-JD, and I have work experience in Internet marketing. Don't have a ton of impressive softs....I was president of multiple honors societies and was in a fraternity, wrote a play and had it produced, but that's about it.

If I can't get into those schools, where can I get into? Read that the lawschoolpredictor site wasn't accurate, so I'm hoping for some insightful info.

Retake.

Definitely will. It seems even a 1 or 2 point increase would do a lot for me, but hopefully I can max out more than that.

[mukol]

I mean, if you actually studied for a 169 then maybe think a bit on a retake. If you just walked in and posted a 169, definitely study and retake.

[RamTitan]

I mean, if you actually studied for a 169 then maybe think a bit on a retake. If you just walked in and posted a 169, definitely study and retake.

I spent a year studying for a 169 lmao. That was my dilemma, since a 169 was my PT average for like 8 months.

[mukol]

I mean, if you actually studied for a 169 then maybe think a bit on a retake. If you just walked in and posted a 169, definitely study and retake.

I spent a year studying for a 169 lmao. That was my dilemma, since a 169 was my PT average for like 8 months.

Yeah...it sounds like you might just cap out at 169. No shame in that game.

[RamTitan]

I mean, if you actually studied for a 169 then maybe think a bit on a retake. If you just walked in and posted a 169, definitely study and retake.

I spent a year studying for a 169 lmao. That was my dilemma, since a 169 was my PT average for like 8 months.

Yeah...it sounds like you might just cap out at 169. No shame in that game.

Aaagh, just as I convinced myself to study for a retake lol. I was in the 167-171 range, so I figure if I could even get those two extra points on the September take, it would be worth it.

I scored a 175 on a retake this past weekend after a month off of studying, which I know isn't an accurate indicator of my real score, but I think it shows that at the least I can easily retain my skills without bashing my head in with studying like last time.

Also, I think not getting as amped/stressed out as I did like last time will help a lot.

[pittsburghpirates]

I mean, if you actually studied for a 169 then maybe think a bit on a retake. If you just walked in and posted a 169, definitely study and retake.

I spent a year studying for a 169 lmao. That was my dilemma, since a 169 was my PT average for like 8 months.

Yeah...it sounds like you might just cap out at 169. No shame in that game.

Aaagh, just as I convinced myself to study for a retake lol. I was in the 167-171 range, so I figure if I could even get those two extra points on the September take, it would be worth it.

I scored a 175 on a retake this past weekend after a month off of studying, which I know isn't an accurate indicator of my real score, but I think it shows that at the least I can easily retain my skills without bashing my head in with studying like last time.

Also, I think not getting as amped/stressed out as I did like last time will help a lot.

Getting those 2 extra points will absolutely be worth it. Could be a difference of $50K or more just to study and hopefully squeeze out a few extra right answers. Don't leave those points (or those $$) on the table! You could get lucky on test day and get a test you just click with and beat your PT average or even do a personal best. Not being as amped or stressed will definitely help as well.

[RamTitan]

I mean, if you actually studied for a 169 then maybe think a bit on a retake. If you just walked in and posted a 169, definitely study and retake.

I spent a year studying for a 169 lmao. That was my dilemma, since a 169 was my PT average for like 8 months.

Yeah...it sounds like you might just cap out at 169. No shame in that game.

Aaagh, just as I convinced myself to study for a retake lol. I was in the 167-171 range, so I figure if I could even get those two extra points on the September take, it would be worth it.

I scored a 175 on a retake this past weekend after a month off of studying, which I know isn't an accurate indicator of my real score, but I think it shows that at the least I can easily retain my skills without bashing my head in with studying like last time.

Also, I think not getting as amped/stressed out as I did like last time will help a lot.

Getting those 2 extra points will absolutely be worth it. Could be a difference of $50K or more just to study and hopefully squeeze out a few extra right answers. Don't leave those points (or those $$) on the table! You could get lucky on test day and get a test you just click with and beat your PT average or even do a personal best. Not being as amped or stressed will definitely help as well.

Let's do it!!!!

[RamTitan]

Hey, bumping this thread so I can get some feedback on my list of schools (if I should apply to more safeties or reaches and what not; note, this list is presented in order of ranking, not desirability of where I want to go necessarily):

Harvard - only if I get 175+
Stanford - only if I get 175+
Chicago - looks like I need at least a 172 or 173 to be competitive, but I think I'll apply regardless
Columbia - same as above
NYU
Penn
UVA
Cal-Berkeley
Michigan
Duke
Northwestern
Cornell
Georgetown
Texas - I think I could get in here with my stats as of now
Vanderbilt - I think I could get in here with my stats as of now
Washu - safety I guess
Colorado - safety

Is this too many, or does this look about right? As of now, no matter what I'd be applying to 15 schools, and if I knock the LSAT out of the park it'd be 17 schools.

[theconsigliere]

Hey, bumping this thread so I can get some feedback on my list of schools (if I should apply to more safeties or reaches and what not; note, this list is presented in order of ranking, not desirability of where I want to go necessarily):

Harvard - only if I get 175+
Stanford - only if I get 175+
Chicago - looks like I need at least a 172 or 173 to be competitive, but I think I'll apply regardless
Columbia - same as above
NYU
Penn
UVA
Cal-Berkeley
Michigan
Duke
Northwestern
Cornell
Georgetown
Texas - I think I could get in here with my stats as of now
Vanderbilt - I think I could get in here with my stats as of now
Washu - safety I guess
Colorado - safety

Is this too many, or does this look about right? As of now, no matter what I'd be applying to 15 schools, and if I knock the LSAT out of the park it'd be 17 schools.

Stanford is gonna be tough no matter what your LSAT is. I'd definitely apply to Harvard with 175+. Maybe even with 173 or 174.

http://mylsn.info/vyzil1/ this is searching 3.6x and 175-180. Stanford, brutal...

[Toni V]

Given that supply and demand should figure into how schools look at admissions, are more or fewer students signing up for law school these days?

[RamTitan]

Hey, bumping this thread so I can get some feedback on my list of schools (if I should apply to more safeties or reaches and what not; note, this list is presented in order of ranking, not desirability of where I want to go necessarily):

Harvard - only if I get 175+
Stanford - only if I get 175+
Chicago - looks like I need at least a 172 or 173 to be competitive, but I think I'll apply regardless
Columbia - same as above
NYU
Penn
UVA
Cal-Berkeley
Michigan
Duke
Northwestern
Cornell
Georgetown
Texas - I think I could get in here with my stats as of now
Vanderbilt - I think I could get in here with my stats as of now
Washu - safety I guess
Colorado - safety

Is this too many, or does this look about right? As of now, no matter what I'd be applying to 15 schools, and if I knock the LSAT out of the park it'd be 17 schools.

Stanford is gonna be tough no matter what your LSAT is. I'd definitely apply to Harvard with 175+. Maybe even with 173 or 174.

http://mylsn.info/vyzil1/ this is searching 3.6x and 175-180. Stanford, brutal...

Lol, holy crap; yeah, Stanford and Yale are probably no-gos regardless of my score, but I'd be willing to spend the money for an application depending on how September goes.

It's probably better to apply to a wider range of schools though, right? I'd always rather have more options than be limited....

[RamTitan]

Given that supply and demand should figure into how schools look at admissions, are more or fewer students signing up for law school these days?

Rumor has it that there will be slightly more applications this year, but apparently there were less June test takers this year than last year, so it's anyone's guess at this point. It's probably safe to say it's still a buyer's market for students (for the most part).

[littlewing67]

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[RamTitan]

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