162 LSAT / 3.7 GPA Forum

[BigZuck]

You're talking about entertainment and IP and real estate. What do those fields look like? What do lawyers in those fields do? Where do they work? Give us some idea of what you actually want to do. Do you envision yourself working at a firm in NYC? Ok, then provide us a link to the types of firms you're aspiring to work at.

[Chrissy1018]

You're talking about entertainment and IP and real estate. What do those fields look like? What do lawyers in those fields do? Where do they work? Give us some idea of what you actually want to do. Do you envision yourself working at a firm in NYC? Ok, then provide us a link to the types of firms you're aspiring to work at.

http://www.cadwalader.com/practice/real-estate (real estate)

http://www.dwt.com/practices/entertainm ... fessionals (entertainment for music)

https://www.manatt.com/Entertainment.as ... =Attorneys (entertainment for music)

http://www.proskauer.com/professionals/ ... 72a3992586 (sports law)

Firm in NYC yes. these are the top firms according to US news for some of what I'm interested in.

I do not need to be at these massive firms. I would be happy with 50-100 attorneys. I also do not need to be starting at 160K a year (although it would be nice)

I would be happy with at least starting 100K. I am not a complete fool though and know that even this could be hard.

[Chrissy1018]

I have just been notified of a 21K a year scholarship from Boston College. Does this change anyone's opinion on my scholarship chances from Fordham?

I applied there on March 8

[BigZuck]

You're talking about entertainment and IP and real estate. What do those fields look like? What do lawyers in those fields do? Where do they work? Give us some idea of what you actually want to do. Do you envision yourself working at a firm in NYC? Ok, then provide us a link to the types of firms you're aspiring to work at.

http://www.cadwalader.com/practice/real-estate (real estate)

http://www.dwt.com/practices/entertainm ... fessionals (entertainment for music)

https://www.manatt.com/Entertainment.as ... =Attorneys (entertainment for music)

http://www.proskauer.com/professionals/ ... 72a3992586 (sports law)

Firm in NYC yes. these are the top firms according to US news for some of what I'm interested in.

I do not need to be at these massive firms. I would be happy with 50-100 attorneys. I also do not need to be starting at 160K a year (although it would be nice)

I would be happy with at least starting 100K. I am not a complete fool though and know that even this could be hard.

Those firms (and firms like them) will be exceedingly difficult to get from schools like Cardozo, and quite difficult to get from Fordham/BC. Also, the 50-100 attorney firms that pay 100K+ very, very rarely hire people directly out of law school. And those firms are quite few and far between. They certainly aren't a backup or fallback option for people that don't get hired at Proskauer. That's not how legal hiring works. It's not "Try to get a job at Proskauer, fail, and then get a job at a mid law firm paying 100K as a fallback." You say it can be "hard" but I don't think you understand or appreciate just exactly how hard it would be to get the jobs you say you aspire to.

I wouldn't go into more than 100K debt at a school like Fordham or BC just because the risk of striking out is quite high. If you're going to be 200K+ in debt then the better option is to not go IMO.

Also, you didn't answer all my questions. What do lawyers in those fields do? What do their jobs look like? Why are you interested in those fields?

[Chrissy1018]

You're talking about entertainment and IP and real estate. What do those fields look like? What do lawyers in those fields do? Where do they work? Give us some idea of what you actually want to do. Do you envision yourself working at a firm in NYC? Ok, then provide us a link to the types of firms you're aspiring to work at.

http://www.cadwalader.com/practice/real-estate (real estate)

http://www.dwt.com/practices/entertainm ... fessionals (entertainment for music)

https://www.manatt.com/Entertainment.as ... =Attorneys (entertainment for music)

http://www.proskauer.com/professionals/ ... 72a3992586 (sports law)

Firm in NYC yes. these are the top firms according to US news for some of what I'm interested in.

I do not need to be at these massive firms. I would be happy with 50-100 attorneys. I also do not need to be starting at 160K a year (although it would be nice)

I would be happy with at least starting 100K. I am not a complete fool though and know that even this could be hard.

Those firms (and firms like them) will be exceedingly difficult to get from schools like Cardozo, and quite difficult to get from Fordham/BC. Also, the 50-100 attorney firms that pay 100K+ very, very rarely hire people directly out of law school. And those firms are quite few and far between. They certainly aren't a backup or fallback option for people that don't get hired at Proskauer. That's not how legal hiring works. It's not "Try to get a job at Proskauer, fail, and then get a job at a mid law firm paying 100K as a fallback." You say it can be "hard" but I don't think you understand or appreciate just exactly how hard it would be to get the jobs you say you aspire to.

I wouldn't go into more than 100K debt at a school like Fordham or BC just because the risk of striking out is quite high. If you're going to be 200K+ in debt then the better option is to not go IMO.

Also, you didn't answer all my questions. What do lawyers in those fields do? What do their jobs look like? Why are you interested in those fields?

I'm not quite sure what you mean by what they do in their fields?

I am interested in these fields because I first am interested in contracts/transaction work. I can't really see myself doing public interest/family law/estate etc.
I work in a small real estate firm now. it is very small scale real estate but it has been the easiest for me so far. I know that is not a real answer but it is just what I have enjoyed the most out of all of the work that I have done in my office.

I have always developed a growing interested in the entertainment industry. I used to dance competiviely in my younger years and was part of student produced musical competitions in High School. I experienced first hand the negatives effects of copying someone else's story when it comes to theater. We had done a Dr. Seuss themed play and had lost the competition because we were not original in our script and had copied too much from the original story line. We had outperformed in every other aspect. I also went to Junior High school for art. I have always been involved with art, music, dance, theater etc. I want to be able to combine my career with my interests

[Chrissy1018]

You're talking about entertainment and IP and real estate. What do those fields look like? What do lawyers in those fields do? Where do they work? Give us some idea of what you actually want to do. Do you envision yourself working at a firm in NYC? Ok, then provide us a link to the types of firms you're aspiring to work at.

http://www.cadwalader.com/practice/real-estate (real estate)

http://www.dwt.com/practices/entertainm ... fessionals (entertainment for music)

https://www.manatt.com/Entertainment.as ... =Attorneys (entertainment for music)

http://www.proskauer.com/professionals/ ... 72a3992586 (sports law)

Firm in NYC yes. these are the top firms according to US news for some of what I'm interested in.

I do not need to be at these massive firms. I would be happy with 50-100 attorneys. I also do not need to be starting at 160K a year (although it would be nice)

I would be happy with at least starting 100K. I am not a complete fool though and know that even this could be hard.

Those firms (and firms like them) will be exceedingly difficult to get from schools like Cardozo, and quite difficult to get from Fordham/BC. Also, the 50-100 attorney firms that pay 100K+ very, very rarely hire people directly out of law school. And those firms are quite few and far between. They certainly aren't a backup or fallback option for people that don't get hired at Proskauer. That's not how legal hiring works. It's not "Try to get a job at Proskauer, fail, and then get a job at a mid law firm paying 100K as a fallback." You say it can be "hard" but I don't think you understand or appreciate just exactly how hard it would be to get the jobs you say you aspire to.

I wouldn't go into more than 100K debt at a school like Fordham or BC just because the risk of striking out is quite high. If you're going to be 200K+ in debt then the better option is to not go IMO.

Also, you didn't answer all my questions. What do lawyers in those fields do? What do their jobs look like? Why are you interested in those fields?

I'm not quite sure what you mean by what they do in their fields?

I am interested in these fields because I first am interested in contracts/transaction work. I can't really see myself doing public interest/family law/estate etc.
I work in a small real estate firm now. it is very small scale real estate but it has been the easiest for me so far. I know that is not a real answer but it is just what I have enjoyed the most out of all of the work that I have done in my office.

I have always developed a growing interested in the entertainment industry. I used to dance competiviely in my younger years and was part of student produced musical competitions in High School. I experienced first hand the negatives effects of copying someone else's story when it comes to theater. We had done a Dr. Seuss themed play and had lost the competition because we were not original in our script and had copied too much from the original story line. We had outperformed in every other aspect. I also went to Junior High school for art. I have always been involved with art, music, dance, theater etc. I want to be able to combine my career with my interests

Also, what would you say if I said that I would be comfortable taking 75k in debt from fordham and were able to be top 33% for law review and if not law review, then their entertainment law journal?

[Biglaw1990]

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[cavalier1138]

You're talking about entertainment and IP and real estate. What do those fields look like? What do lawyers in those fields do? Where do they work? Give us some idea of what you actually want to do. Do you envision yourself working at a firm in NYC? Ok, then provide us a link to the types of firms you're aspiring to work at.

http://www.cadwalader.com/practice/real-estate (real estate)

http://www.dwt.com/practices/entertainm ... fessionals (entertainment for music)

https://www.manatt.com/Entertainment.as ... =Attorneys (entertainment for music)

http://www.proskauer.com/professionals/ ... 72a3992586 (sports law)

Firm in NYC yes. these are the top firms according to US news for some of what I'm interested in.

I do not need to be at these massive firms. I would be happy with 50-100 attorneys. I also do not need to be starting at 160K a year (although it would be nice)

I would be happy with at least starting 100K. I am not a complete fool though and know that even this could be hard.

Those firms (and firms like them) will be exceedingly difficult to get from schools like Cardozo, and quite difficult to get from Fordham/BC. Also, the 50-100 attorney firms that pay 100K+ very, very rarely hire people directly out of law school. And those firms are quite few and far between. They certainly aren't a backup or fallback option for people that don't get hired at Proskauer. That's not how legal hiring works. It's not "Try to get a job at Proskauer, fail, and then get a job at a mid law firm paying 100K as a fallback." You say it can be "hard" but I don't think you understand or appreciate just exactly how hard it would be to get the jobs you say you aspire to.

I wouldn't go into more than 100K debt at a school like Fordham or BC just because the risk of striking out is quite high. If you're going to be 200K+ in debt then the better option is to not go IMO.

Also, you didn't answer all my questions. What do lawyers in those fields do? What do their jobs look like? Why are you interested in those fields?

I'm not quite sure what you mean by what they do in their fields?

I am interested in these fields because I first am interested in contracts/transaction work. I can't really see myself doing public interest/family law/estate etc.
I work in a small real estate firm now. it is very small scale real estate but it has been the easiest for me so far. I know that is not a real answer but it is just what I have enjoyed the most out of all of the work that I have done in my office.

I have always developed a growing interested in the entertainment industry. I used to dance competiviely in my younger years and was part of student produced musical competitions in High School. I experienced first hand the negatives effects of copying someone else's story when it comes to theater. We had done a Dr. Seuss themed play and had lost the competition because we were not original in our script and had copied too much from the original story line. We had outperformed in every other aspect. I also went to Junior High school for art. I have always been involved with art, music, dance, theater etc. I want to be able to combine my career with my interests

Just to chime in on this (because no one's addressed this aspect of your post): I'm not sure why you want to be involved in entertainment law.

There seems to be this weird idea floating around that entertainment law is an awesome option for people who love creating art. That is not even remotely true.

If you like creating art, then it sounds like you want to be an artist of some kind. Speaking as someone who's been a professional actor, entertainment lawyers do not get to do any of the things that you appear to have enjoyed in the theatre. Entertainment lawyers handle contracts, rights, more contracts, copyright, and more contracts. Your experience of performing in a couple of school plays and dance competitions is absolutely meaningless when it comes to the field of professional entertainment.

But all that said, you've already been told the answer that you appear to not want to accept: if this is truly the path you want to follow, then you need to retake and get a better score.