165 LSAT 3.9 GPA Boston College/Harvard, chances? Forum

[cooperlaserpup]

People on here can be hyper aggressive. BC is a good school and there is no reason you can't be successful graduating from there. Know what you're getting into in terms of debt and prepare yourself accordingly.

That said, no shot at Harvard (anything below a 173 is pretty much out no matter what) but a good chance at BC. I got into BC with a little money with a 171 and 3.8.

Good luck! Boston is a great town

you got "a little money" from BC with 171/3.8?
what the fucking fuck
you got taken advantage of hard

Well I didn't go there and I don't remember the exact numbers, I just know I got some money.

I didn't get "taken advantage of" by anyone. I landed my dream job doing exactly what I want to do doing it exactly where I want to but I certainly didn't have my pick of law schools and that 3.8 is coming out of an undergrad consistently ranked as a top 3 liberal arts college in any of the various rankings out there. But i learned a long time ago that the only people who are sure to benefit from a school's big name are those that couldn't work hard enough to achieve what they want from any school (within reason, accredited, etc.) In certain areas of practice it surely matters more than others, but there were 2500 applications for my job and they hired 9. Myself and a girl who went to Yale are T14. The rest are schools that TLS would certainly consider lowly and pathetic, some not even tier one. But those people paid a whole hell of a lot less for school than I did and excelled at their internships. It is all about knowing what you want and working hard for it.

That being said I'm not in big law, I know name recognition can be important in that sad, shallow world. But I also know loads of people coming out of Suffolk law in Boston who are making bank at big NY firms. Again, they worked their assess off to get their 1L and 2L summers.

OP, If you don't want to take the LSAT again than don't. If your comfortable with your choice and believe you can manage your debt than go and have a great career as countless BC grads do.

you are the embodiment of the law school scam
suffolk has an employment score of 35.7

thirty
five
point
seven
percent

how dare you intimate that suffolk is a reasonable choice, that you can make "bank" at "big NY firms" if you work hard and hustle
and the audacity to recommend to a 3.9 ugpa hys gunner not to retake a 165

you make me sick

HAHA JESUS CHRIST calm down. All I can speak to is people I know. And they're doing great. I was very clear about my choice. And its hardly "scamming" someone to encourage them to consider their finances. But this website is T14 or bust and let me give you a hint- Most lawyers, even the oens coming out of school and getting jobs RIGHT NOW, are not T14. And that is fact.

[cooperlaserpup]

People on here can be hyper aggressive. BC is a good school and there is no reason you can't be successful graduating from there. Know what you're getting into in terms of debt and prepare yourself accordingly.

That said, no shot at Harvard (anything below a 173 is pretty much out no matter what) but a good chance at BC. I got into BC with a little money with a 171 and 3.8.

Good luck! Boston is a great town

you got "a little money" from BC with 171/3.8?
what the fucking fuck
you got taken advantage of hard

Well I didn't go there and I don't remember the exact numbers, I just know I got some money.

I didn't get "taken advantage of" by anyone. I landed my dream job doing exactly what I want to do doing it exactly where I want to but I certainly didn't have my pick of law schools and that 3.8 is coming out of an undergrad consistently ranked as a top 3 liberal arts college in any of the various rankings out there. But i learned a long time ago that the only people who are sure to benefit from a school's big name are those that couldn't work hard enough to achieve what they want from any school (within reason, accredited, etc.) In certain areas of practice it surely matters more than others, but there were 2500 applications for my job and they hired 9. Myself and a girl who went to Yale are T14. The rest are schools that TLS would certainly consider lowly and pathetic, some not even tier one. But those people paid a whole hell of a lot less for school than I did and excelled at their internships. It is all about knowing what you want and working hard for it.

That being said I'm not in big law, I know name recognition can be important in that sad, shallow world. But I also know loads of people coming out of Suffolk law in Boston who are making bank at big NY firms. Again, they worked their assess off to get their 1L and 2L summers.

OP, If you don't want to take the LSAT again than don't. If your comfortable with your choice and believe you can manage your debt than go and have a great career as countless BC grads do.

Can you not even acknowledge that luck played a significant factor (especially for those at lower ranked schools)? Also, you're essentially advising OP to give up a chance at improving his LSAT which would either get OP 1. a full scholarship at BC or 2. a partial-full scholarship (depending on increase) at a T14 and/or 3. admission to HYS.

OP already told you they don't want to retake, so how exactly is that helpful advice?

In the instances that I personally KNOW OF, luck was not a factor, frankly. I'm sure for some people it might be? But I can't speak to other people's experiences and wouldn't claim to.

Its crazy how easily riled up people get when confronted with the fact that their hyper-anxious version of things may not be the only option.

[03152016]

HAHA JESUS CHRIST calm down.

HAHA
so funny when worthless anecdotes reinforce misconceptions prospective students have about a law school's ability to place students
i wonder if that helps then become "comfortable with their choice" and causes them to "believe they can manage their debt"

heh heh
and then those students trot off to toilets like suffolk thinking they'll work hard and get those "big NY firm" jobs where they can "make bank"
and instead 64.3% of them fail to become actual lawyers
with an average debt load of $123,000

hehehe
and then they're unemployed with six figure debt over their head for 25 years
until finally the tax bomb drops on their heads, just as they near retirement

when will the hilarity end?

[Ramius]

You are quite literally the worst.

OF COURSE people make bad decisions that occasionally work out for them, but this type of advice literally can ruin lives. Would you feel comfortable with someone taking your advice proudly, thinking they will work hard and have it all work out, followed by getting median pwned and finding no form of employment at Suffolk or its ilk?

If you're good with that, have fun here, satan

[Rigo]

OP, I know several people with great numbers who were really disappointed with BC and BU aid packages. It may partially explain why their medians plummeted. Maybe the schools will give more money this coming year to maintain class profile standards, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Something to think about.
I would make sure your SO will be in Boston for a very long time before you seriously consider a regional school in a very tie-centric market.

I really just wanted to tag myself for cooper's awful advice and anecdotes.

[Kratos]

OP already told you they don't want to retake, so how exactly is that helpful advice?

In the instances that I personally KNOW OF, luck was not a factor, frankly. I'm sure for some people it might be? But I can't speak to other people's experiences and wouldn't claim to.

Its crazy how easily riled up people get when confronted with the fact that their hyper-anxious version of things may not be the only option.

Its helpful because whether or not they want to, retaking is the best opportunity for OP to maximize their potential in this situation.

Dude your anecdotes are fucking worthless. I asked before, how many people do you know of from suffolk that are making bank? You said loads. Well thats utter bullshit since about 1/3 of their grads get actual legal jobs. So exactly how many?

yea there are a lot of law schools. If you're at the top of any school you might have a shot. But 90% of people at any school aren't at the top you nitwit. It's not just hard work either. There is luck involved. The fact you don't acknowledge it shows what a retard you are.

[hoos89]

OP already told you they don't want to retake, so how exactly is that helpful advice?

In the instances that I personally KNOW OF, luck was not a factor, frankly. I'm sure for some people it might be? But I can't speak to other people's experiences and wouldn't claim to.

Its crazy how easily riled up people get when confronted with the fact that their hyper-anxious version of things may not be the only option.

Just because someone doesn't want to retake the LSAT doesn't mean it's not worth it to try to convince them to do so. The cost of doing it is so small compared to the potential gain. I don't know why you feel the need to give terrible advice and pretend like your anecdotes are meaningful and not at all misleading.

HAHA JESUS CHRIST calm down. All I can speak to is people I know. And they're doing great. I was very clear about my choice. And its hardly "scamming" someone to encourage them to consider their finances. But this website is T14 or bust and let me give you a hint- Most lawyers, even the oens coming out of school and getting jobs RIGHT NOW, are not T14. And that is fact.

Nobody argues with that, if only because the vast majority of law schools are not T14. Along that same note, most lawyers NOT getting jobs RIGHT NOW are not T14.

[NoDayButToday]

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[xylocarp]

People on here can be hyper aggressive. BC is a good school and there is no reason you can't be successful graduating from there. Know what you're getting into in terms of debt and prepare yourself accordingly.

That said, no shot at Harvard (anything below a 173 is pretty much out no matter what) but a good chance at BC. I got into BC with a little money with a 171 and 3.8.

Good luck! Boston is a great town

people have piled on about the rest of the ridiculous stuff in this post, but I just wanted to point out that this is laughably false.

OP I don't know what your circumstances are, but I hope that they are such that you can figure out a way to retake and get Harvard.

[heythatslife]

It's not impossible to get into HLS with a 165, especially with your GPA and if you also have work experience and strong essays/recs (a few posters last year did get in with a 165+high GPA).

It's not categorically impossible, but the odds are vanishingly thin. http://mylsn.info/02nxry/
But once you get your LSAT up to 170, you're in the running for Harvard. All you need is 5 more points.