3.3 169 URM Forum

[WeeBey]

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[LSATneurotic]

Guess I'm not getting the boost. Applied duke PT and got priority reserved.

I probably got the PT because I checked the black/aa box and my numbers, but when they actually look at my app maybe the international part fucked me over. That or it's cause I didn't write a why duke.

you get the boost, man. don't look too much into this one result.

[LSATneurotic]

Guess I'm not getting the boost. Applied duke PT and got priority reserved.

I probably got the PT because I checked the black/aa box and my numbers, but when they actually look at my app maybe the international part fucked me over. That or it's cause I didn't write a why duke.

you get the boost, man. don't look too much into this one result.

ETA: if you check mylsn, you will see that Duke is one of the anomalies as far as t-14 admissions go for AA males: they tend to waitlist quite a few of the higher scoring AA males. Like I said, don't sweat it, bro.

[WeeBey]

^ come on, no way duke is gonna yp me lol

[LSATneurotic]

^ come on, no way duke is gonna yp me lol

once again, check mylsn.info and plug in your numbers. You will see that they YP a large number of black applicants with numbers in our range. I am done consoling you.

[WeeBey]

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[Bruh]

Throw an app at Hahhvard.
So number twins can see how you do

[WeeBey]

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[Mack.Hambleton]

Why would internationals get a URM boost??

Don't you have to be a underrepresented minority of the US (ie African American, Mexican American)

[runinthefront]

Why would internationals get a URM boost??

Don't you have to be a underrepresented minority of the US (ie African American, Mexican American)

I don't know if this is a serious question or not

but if you think really hard

you can probably figure out the answer yourself

[Mack.Hambleton]

Why would internationals get a URM boost??

Don't you have to be a underrepresented minority of the US (ie African American, Mexican American)

I don't know if this is a serious question or not

but if you think really hard

you can probably figure out the answer yourself

I'm not saying they're not "underrepresented" in reality, I'm saying for law school admissions wouldn't they be just counted as international students and not as part of the AA/MA/NA quota?

[runinthefront]

Why would internationals get a URM boost??

Don't you have to be a underrepresented minority of the US (ie African American, Mexican American)

I don't know if this is a serious question or not

but if you think really hard

you can probably figure out the answer yourself

I'm not saying they're not "underrepresented" in reality, I'm saying for law school admissions wouldn't they be just counted as international students and not as part of the AA/MA/NA quota?

I'm re-reading my post and I was kind of a jerk anyway, so my bad.

There are no racial quotas per se.

The legal justification for schools giving boosts to minority applicants is to increase diversity. International URM students bring 2x the purported diversity than that of ORM intenational students (hypothetically).

[WeeBey]

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[Mack.Hambleton]

In theory yes, but I was under the impression that there were still de facto quotas, which is why only African Americans, Mexican Americans, Native Americans, and PR Americans get a boost for being URM. Being international in and of itself definitely does not give any sort of boost because of diversity (in fact it is usually a negative because they have no GPA to contribute),

[Mack.Hambleton]

Yes, but on ABA reports, I wouldn't even fall under Black, I'd fall under Non-resident alien. I should receive some boost atleast just because Im still brining diversity.

From mylsn, my numbers would get me in Mich, Cornell, GULC without any boost since im at or above their 75ths and my LSAT is still at least median at all the other lower t14s.

The only boost I think you would get is from writing a compelling PS/DS, not from being international or international URM

[runinthefront]

In theory yes, but I was under the impression that there were still de facto quotas, which is why only African Americans, Mexican Americans, Native Americans, and PR Americans get a boost for being URM. Being international in and of itself definitely does not give any sort of boost because of diversity (in fact it is usually a negative because they have no GPA to contribute),

Why do you think law schools really provide de facto quotas (without divulging into an affirmative action thread). If it's because of the lack of racial diversity in the legal workplace, I don't think that the national origin of the black or mexican student matters.

I feel like you understand why schools give boosts to international URMs, but you're just uncomfortable with it

[90convoy]

Don't let Duke mess with your head. Duke is weird with URM admissions; Ive seen so much weird shit on LSN with them. With that being said, it's hard to know if international blacks still get the same boost.

[Mack.Hambleton]

In theory yes, but I was under the impression that there were still de facto quotas, which is why only African Americans, Mexican Americans, Native Americans, and PR Americans get a boost for being URM. Being international in and of itself definitely does not give any sort of boost because of diversity (in fact it is usually a negative because they have no GPA to contribute),

Why do you think law schools really provide de facto quotas (without divulging into an affirmative action thread). If it's because of the lack of racial diversity in the legal workplace, I don't think that the national origin of the black or mexican student matters.

I feel like you understand why schools give boosts to international URMs, but you're just uncomfortable with it

I thought from the data (LSN and TLS applicants) internationals urms didn't get a boost

I don't give a shit why they do what they do I'm just trying to establish the facts

[runinthefront]

In theory yes, but I was under the impression that there were still de facto quotas, which is why only African Americans, Mexican Americans, Native Americans, and PR Americans get a boost for being URM. Being international in and of itself definitely does not give any sort of boost because of diversity (in fact it is usually a negative because they have no GPA to contribute),

Why do you think law schools really provide de facto quotas (without divulging into an affirmative action thread). If it's because of the lack of racial diversity in the legal workplace, I don't think that the national origin of the black or mexican student matters.

I feel like you understand why schools give boosts to international URMs, but you're just uncomfortable with it

I thought from the data (LSN and TLS applicants) internationals urms didn't get a boost

nah you're definitely wrong

[Mack.Hambleton]

[citation needed]

[Mack.Hambleton]

This is from the stickied "Am I a URM thread"


You need to be either a US citizen or a permanent resident to receive URM boost. International students are not considered a part of US population for AA purposes (or for tax or many other purposes, for that matter).

[runinthefront]

This is from the stickied "Am I a URM thread"


You need to be either a US citizen or a permanent resident to receive URM boost. International students are not considered a part of US population for AA purposes (or for tax or many other purposes, for that matter).

unless that links to some relevant case law im missing
i unequivocally disagree

[Mack.Hambleton]

This is from the stickied "Am I a URM thread"


You need to be either a US citizen or a permanent resident to receive URM boost. International students are not considered a part of US population for AA purposes (or for tax or many other purposes, for that matter).

unless that links to some relevant case law im missing
i unequivocally disagree

wtf are u talking about case law